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Frauds on the Treasury-Gardiner Claim-Mr. Johnson, of Tennessee.

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were none.

Some of the awards made were not to be made out, and what character of proof is to They plead ignorance of the fraud whilst the claim paid, which circumstance resulted in the calling of be taken for that purpose; but in that instance, was being investigated; they did not know it was another convention, and the making of another other things conform to the case. In this instance, a fraud, but they know now that it is. They know treaty in 1843, and the creation of another Board. however, the programme is made out, and the case now where and how the money came; and, as This Board did but little; and there was another is made to conform to it.

honest men, worthy of public confidence and enconvention, which was to have been ratified on the Mr. STEPHENS. Is it not the practice in all titled to occupy a high place in the Government, 20th of November, 1813. That ratification never of the Departments of the Government—the Pen they are bound to restore it. took place. During all this time these claims were sion Office, for instance-where claims are to be Mr. GOODENOW. Major Lally ought to be increasing, and our citizens were without redress. I presented, to establish rules of evidence by which involved in the same category. The difficulties between the two Governments claims are to be supported? Did not this Board Mr. JOHNSON. The gentleman from Maine were thickening, and a war was expected. do so in this case, and did Mr. Thompson do any says that Major Lally ought to be involved in the

We find in 1840 that this Mr. Gardiner went thing more than give instructions conforming to same category. I say that all, though there were to Mexico as a kind of itinerant dentist, plugging those regulations?

a captain's company, the recipients of the proceeds and filing teeth for a livelihood. He wandered Mr. JOHNSON. I stated, when I first alluded of this fraud, ought to disgorge. If they retain around until 1843; and the last seen of him was in to Mr. Thompson, that I would not charge that it, I say in my place here, that in sound morals the city of Mexico, in the year 1814. He was seen he was cognizant of, or intended to do, anything they are as filthy as a cage of unclean birds. there by General Thompson, and by some others. wrong, but would only state a fact.

The gentleman from Connecticut [Mr. CHAPHe stated, and it is so stated by others, that he Mr. STEPHENS. Certainly; and I ask the MAN) knows that I will make no unkind allusion repaired to the interior, where, he alleges, he gentleman to state another fact.

to him. Since we formed each other's acquaintcommenced mining operations to an amount of Mr. JOHNSON. And that fact was that the ance here, our personal relations have been of the $300,000. All this time the difficulties between the affidavits were taken, and the case made out, in most amicable character. I am proud of his acGovernments were constantly increasing, and war compliance with those instructions.

quaintance. I have found him a shrewd and active was expected. Mr. Thompson returned home, Mr. ORR. I will in this connection ask the business man. He has talents and business tact, and Mr. Slidell was sent out. War was declared, gentleman a question, as he is familiar with the and if I was not convinced of this before, I was as you will remember, in 1846. Gardiner com testimony in the case. Was it not proven before on yesterday by the defense he made in this case. menced mining operations with little or no capital, || the committee that Dr. Gardiner exhibited to Gen You saw his conciseness, his method, and the deand in two years' time he had invested, as he as eral Thompson the affidavits of certain persons in pendence of one part of his argument upon another. sumes, some $300,000. There are contradictory | Mexico previous to the preparation of these in If you admit his premises, and follow him along statements in regard to this matter; but it must be structions, and that those instructions were gotten to his conclusions, you will see that it is one of manifest to all reasonable and impartial persons up for the purpose indicated by the gentleman from the prettiest and fairest cases in the world. It did who will make themselves familiar with the his- | Georgia?

his head credit; and I will not doubt his sincerity tory of this whole transaction, that Dr. Gardiner Mr. JOHNSON. I think that the gentleman in the basis upon which he placed it. During the had little or no capital to vest in mining operations will find that fact stated by General Thompson delivery of his speech I imagined myself in a at that time; and if he had, it is not reasonable to himself, and by no one else.

criminal court, listening to the defense of a crimsuppose he would have done so, in view of the Mr. ORR. General Thompson is an honorable inal, and that the gentleman was trying to make it belligerent attitude about being assumed by the man, and it is due to him that his statement of appear not that his client was guiltless, but that two Governments.

fact should go out. Evidence of parties in Mex the prosecution was malicious. It seemed that he We now come along to 1846; war was declared, ico was brought here by Dr. Gardiner, and the wanted to mitigate the sentence of the court or the this Gardiner was expelled from Mexico, his prop- || instructions given by General Thompson, as I judgment of the jury, by pleading that the proseerty lost, and his mines taken from him; and he understand him, were to put the affidavits referred cution was a malicious one, without at all looking now comes forward and sets up his claim, under to in form.

to the merits of the case. the twenty-sixth article of the treaty of 1831. The Mr. JOHNSON. They were instructions to And we find, too, that is done very adroitly in war continued; and on the 2d of February, 1848, | him to make out his case. Here is the published this connection, by associating the idea of malithere was another treaty made. Mr. Gardiner testimony, and it is for the public, and not for me, cious prosecution as regards Mr. Corwin. Says was an observing and a shrewd man,

and he saw,

to draw inferences. We find that in compliance he, “ I am not his foe nor is he my foe; can the as every one who knows anything about such with those instructions the case was made out and member from Ohio (Mr. Olds] say as much?matters knew, that whenever a treaty of peace presented to this Board, and that an award was Do you not see the course which he intended this should be made, Mexico would be compelled to made to Dr. Gardiner of $427,000. About these thing to take, so as to impress upon the public pay money to the United States, and be compelled facts there can be no mistake; and I tell gentlemen mind the idea that there was enmity and ill-feeling to provide for the payment of claims, on the part now, that before I am done I shall come to the existing between these two gentlemen, and that of our citizens, against that Government.

touchstone in this matter. You may talk about the whole proceeding here was malicious on the By the treaty with Mexico of the 2d of Feb. high-minded, pure men, who lift themselves above part of the member from Ohio, (Mr. OLDS?). Is ruary, we provide-after agreeing to take so much all that is low, and groveling, and disreputable, it not evident that he desired to give that direction territory and pay $15,000,000—for the indemnifi but there is a point in this case that will put them to the public mind? I do not know what the recation of citizens of the United States against the to the test. One thing has been ascertained since lations are between those two gentlemen. I have Mexican Government to the extent of $3,250,000. this claim has been allowed, and that is, that it is met and received them both as gentlemen, and I By this same treaty, another Board of Commis a fraudulent one, based only upon perjury and know nothing of their personal and political differsioners was created, to consist of three members, | forgery. We know that perjury and forgery were

I have looked upon them heretofore as and to hold its sessions in the city of Washing the means by and through which the amount of equals, so far as those matters were concerned ton. Mr. Gardiner, having returned from Mex

money I have specified as being awarded to Dr. Nor do I intend to inquire into their personal diffiico to the United States, met here and renewed his Gardiner, was taken out of the Treasury. Now, culties. But I can say for myself, as the gentle. acquaintance with Mr. Thompson. He stated his this fact, no one will controvert. The committee man from Connecticut (Mr. CHAPMAN) did, that I case to him, and they at once commence to con were of the unanimous opinion that it was a naked am not Mr. Corwin's foe, and I hope he is not jure up or make out this claim—which did or did

fraud upon the Treasury, sustained only by for mine. I have no reason to be his foe, as I have not exist-to be brought before this Board. The gery and perjury. Then, if Mr. Thompson and never received anything from him but kindness. I claim was presented, and as the declaration will Mr. Corwin are the recipients of money extracted have met with him and passed the usual civilities show, for the sum of $500,000. I will not say from the Treasury by means of fraud and perjury; of gentlemen, and nothing unkind has passed bethat Mr. Thompson, of South Carolina, was cog if they are the high-minded and honorable men tween us. The reason I make this remark is that nizant or guilty of anything wrong, but I will they are represented to be, they will, upon every I am in as favorable a condition to speak of this state as a fact, that when he came forward with | principle of sound morality and justice-upon the transaction as the honorable gentleman from Conthe claim, as the documents will show, he had a doctrine that the recipients of stolen goods shall, necticut. Then why do you not acquit your man programme for the taking of evidence, and as to so soon as the fact is ascertained, restore them to upon the merits of the case, not by innuendo, by what had to be done to establish the claim before their rightful owners--replace that money in the indirection, and by making a false issue before the Board, and that, too, before he returned to Treasury. Everybody acknowledges it is right Mexico, and before the declaration was made out.

the public mind, and there rest your case? What that this money, which has been filched from the was the other ground upon which the gentleman Both Mr. Thompson and Mr. Gardiner had been Treasury by fraud, so far as we can reach it, relied? It was this, that the proceedings were in Mexico and understood the condition of the should be enjoined; and if a certain portion is en ex parte. Ah! A malicious prosecution, based two Governments, and were aware that Boards joined in the hands of Corcoran & Riggs as money upon an ex parte examination of the witnesses. had set at various times upon claims between the belonging to the Government, is it not equally How does that fact stand? Was not Mr. Corwin United States and Mexico. When Gardiner re right that another portion of the same money before that committee? Did he not have the witturned with his proofs, a declaration was made out which has passed into the hands of Corwin and nesses summoned, and did he not cross-examine and filed before this Board.

Thompson ought to be enjoined ? I know that them? Mr. STEPHENS, of Georgia. I would ask the legally you cannot reach it, but I say that they are Mr. CHAPMAN. The gentleman from Tengentleman from Tennessee, whether Mr. Thomp- | morally bound to return it. There is the touch nessee misunderstood me if he understood me to son did anything more than give instructions con stone. You that talk about honor; you that talk say, so far as Mr. Corwin was concerned, that formably to regulations previously established by about having no knowledge of a fraud being in this was an ex parte examination. I made no such this Board ?

tended at the time the claim was being prosecuted intimation; but I said, in express terms, that so Mr. JOHNSON. I state facts, and it is for before the Board, know now that it is a fraudulent far as Dr. Gardiner was concerned, it was due to others to draw inferences. He drew a chart, or claim, and that you have stolen goods in your poswritten instructions, by which this claim was to

him to say that it was ex parte, with the single exsession, which I know you are morally bound to be made out.

ception to which I have adverted. I am fully aware that lawyers restore to the rightful owner, to the last dollar. Mr. JOHNSON. I intended to come to that. sometimes give instructions as to how a case is This tests the whole thing, and why debate it? The impression was made by what the gentleman

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320 Cong.... 20 Sess. Frauds on the Treasury-Gardiner Claim-Mr. Johnson, of Tennessee.

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said, that it was an ex parte proceeding. I do not yond what had been practiced by all of the mem- justify Mr. Corwin's connection with the claim know what his intention was.

bers of Congress? whether he did not think they morally, but he is willing to make it an offense leMr. CHAPMAN. The intention was to make were bound to show that there was something gally. I cannot reconcile that sort of argument. myself distinctly understood.

peculiar in the case of Mr. Corwin from that of It reminds me of a position assumed at one period Mr. JOHNSON. Perhaps it is owing to my others?

of time by Professor Hoffman. He wrote as long obtuseness, and not his want of clearness, and Mr. JOHNSON. The gentleman from Ohio ago as 1598—just two hundred years before the I will let it go in that way; but the impression desires to know if Mr. Corwin acted differently Virginia resolutions were adopied--that philoscalculated to be made by his speech was, that it from other members of Congress. If the gentle | ophy was the mortal enemy of religion, and that was an ex parte proceeding, and that the witnesses man will read the resolution, he will there find truth was divisible into two branches, one philohad not been cross-examined. Well, so far as what we were appointed to do, and that was to sophical and the other theological, and that what Mr. Gardiner was concerned, there was no ex ascertain Mr. Corwin's connection with the Gar- was true in philosophy was false in theology, and parte proceeding. Mr. Gardiner was not on trial diner claim, and whether that was an improper | vice versa. Now, the gentleman from Ohio seems before that committee, and this bill contains no | connection. We have found out what his con- to occupy this position, that that which is right in provision that would punish Mr. Gardiner, so far nection was with that claim, and it is for the coun- ! morals, is wrong in law, and that that which is as I know. Mr. Corwin was the man with whom | try and the House to determine whether it is an right in law, is wrong in morals. I confess I canthe committee had to do; and his connection with improper one or not. I consider it such, from the not swallow that proposition. It seems to me the Gardiner claim was what the committee were fact of his being a Senator at the time the treaty that morals should constitute the basis of law. investigating. The gentleman from Connecticut was made, voting for the appropriation to carry Mr. BARRERE. I believe they have laws in nods his assent. This is the true state of the case. out the provisions of that treaty, and prosecuting a some of the States that the citizens shall catch fish Mr. Corwin was present at the investigation, claim againt the Government provided for by that in certain streams only at certain seasons of the cross-examined, and had most of the witnesses very treaty; and I think that the country will so year. It is, therefore, legally wrong to catch fish summoned himself. So far as Mr. Gardiner is determine it.

in those streams at other seasons, but I do not concerned, he is not upon trial at all, but we are I do not intend to find fault with the report think that if there was no such law, it would be to get at Mr. Corwin's connection with the Gar- which the committee make here, but I wish to re- inorally wrong. diner claim. That is what we are trying to do; fer to it. The committee go on, and do what? They Mr. JOHNSON. It might be morally wrong and how does the matter stand so far as Mr. Gar- have ascertained Mr. Corwin's connection with | in some places and not in others. That would de diner is concerned ? He was not on trial, and he the claim. They have shown what it was, and pend just upon the locality and the circumstances was not before the committee, but he was heard by the country understands it. This committee after of the case." (Laughter.) But the gentleman goes his counsel. About the close of the investigation, going on, and summing up the whole case, state on to justify Mr. Corwin on the ground that the Mr. Gardiner writes a letter to the committee, in that, “ No testimony has been adduced before the fee was a contingent one. Now, I expect they which he speaks of the investigation as being an committee proving, or tending to prove, that the have got a law in his State that no lawyer shali ex parte proceeding, and claims the right of being · Hon. Thomas Corwin had any knowledge that take a contingent fee; in other words, that if a heard. Did not the committee notify him that he the claim of the said Gardiner was fraudulent, or lawyer brings suit for a certain amount on condicould be heard and fix a day for him to come? that false testimony or forged papers had been or tion that he shall receive a certain proportion of Did Mr. Gardiner come?

were to be procured to sustain the same. it, he shall be stricken from the roll of lawyers. Do you not see that the two main grounds upon Now, do we not see how clearly that misses the They would find him guilty of champerty. which the gentleman from Connecticut (Mr. case? The resolution required them to ascertain Mr. BARRERE. The gentleman has misunCHAPMANl relies, show that his argument is a the improper connection. Does the improper con- stood me. I did not take the position he supposes specious one, made in true lawyer style, to acquit nection depend upon Mr. Corwin's knowledge of with regard to the fee being a contingent one. his client upon special pleading, when there is no its fraudulency? That is the point. The commit- Mr. JOHNSON. I think the gentleman will merit in his case? That is the position which he tee did not say that the connection was a proper | find it difficult to understand his own position, occupies. We find in this connection that there one, but that he had no knowledge of the fraud. when he sees it on paper. In the States we conhas been something said by gentlemen about the This connection was improper without a knowl- sider champerty, immoral, and we pass laws committee going beyond the record. What does edge of the fraud, and if he had a knowledge of making it a legal offense, because it is immoral. this resolution say?

the fraud, it was but an aggravation of the im- / We say that it is morally wrong for a man to go “Whereas a strong suspicion rests upon the public mind

proper connection. That is the whole of it, and about getting up suits in a neighborhood, and that fraudulent claims have been allowed by the late Mexi- you may turn as you please upon this question, taking contingent fees, and we pass laws to puncan Claim Commission, with one of which it is suspected he stands improperly connected with this fraudu- ish him. But the gentleman tells me, with his that Thomas Corwin, Secretary of the Treasury, has been improperly connected: therefore," &c.

lent claim, successfully prosecuted against the profound understanding of theology and philoso

United States, and the 'money was obtained from phy, that taking a contingent fee in a claim against How does the fact stand? We are not to inves- the Treasury.

ihe Government is a different thing from taking a tigate whether Mr. Corwin knew that it was a The gentleman from Ohio (Mr. BARRERE] seem contingent fee in a case before a court of justice. fraudulent claim, (which we will come to directly,) ed to strike a happy vein of argument yesterday i Now, if champerty is immoral in the States, and but we are to investigate whether Mr. Corwin was upon this question; and it was that Mr. Gardiner a punishable offense under State laws, I ask how, improperly connected with the Gardiner claim. was a bad man, and that Mr. Corwin was not re- in the name of morals and common sense, it beThat is the point. Does not this investigation sponsible for it. He illustrated it by telling a story comes right and moral in Secretaries, members of show that he was connected with it, and that he got which Mr. Clay related of Mr. Grundy, that if Congress, and other persons here? Such is the a part-eighty-odd thousand dollars of it? I think

Mr. Grundy was responsible for all the criminals state of things here, that practices which are conit does. Is not his connection, then, with the claim he had defended he would have a great amount of sidered immoral in the States, and are conseimproper? We say that it was an improper con- sin for which to answer. That may be all true, quently made indictable offenses, can be practiced nection, that it was mere speculation, and that it but it is not Mr. Grundy defending a criminal in with perfect impunity here, and no one must inwas morally wrong.

this case, but it is Mr. Corwin aiding a man inquire into them. It is time that we had arrested In the bill before us, what do we propose to prosecuting a claim ngainst the Government. He this thing. The attention of the country is do? We intend to say that legally such a con- appears for the plaintiff and not for the defendant directed to it. It is high time that the indiscrimnection is wrong, not binding him more than any- --for a man who is trying to commit a fraud upon | inate plundering which is going on about the Debody else, who has been guilty of the like offense. the Treasury with the knowledge of its being a partments, and about this capital, was put a stop The offense was an improper one. Why was it fraudulent claim, as I believe. We say it is wrong so? Mr. Corwin was a Senator of the United in that connection, and still more if he knew it Sir, I have not time to go into the testimony in States, placed there by the people to guard the to be wrong. The cases are not analogous at this case. I had intended to have done so. But people's Treasury, to take care of their money, and all.

you will find, on looking over the whole of it, that also, as one of the Senate, with the President of

The gentleman from Ohio presented one or two the case was shrewdly anticipated by Dr. Gardi. the United States, to make treaties with foreign other really strange ideas. He set out with say- ner and his coadjutors. He saw the various conGovernments. We find when this very treaty was ing that he should vote for the bill, thereby admit- ventions, and the claims against the Mexican concluded between the Government of the United | ing that this thing should be made an offense legal Government; he saw the difficulties thickening; States and Mexico, on the 2d of February, 1848, !y as it was morally, because we proceed upon the that war would be the result; that a peace would that Mr. Corwin was in the Senate himself, and idea in this, and most other countries, that to have be made, and that the Government would have to acted in his capacity as Senator. We find in this anything like a perfect system of jurisprudence, indemnify our citizens; and he commenced, with very treaty, as I remarked before, that three mil- law must be the perfection of reason, and, I will Mrs. Chase, Mr. Larned, and others, making up a lions and a quarter were set apart to pay the claims add, of sound morals. The morals must precede basis upon which to rest this spurions claim. He of citizens of the United States against Mexico. the law, and the law should be made to sustain carried on the case shrewdly, until he succeeded We find that by this very treaty a Board of Com- the morals. If it is not morally wrong to do this in getting it before the Commissioners. It is a missioners was established. We find that while | thing, I tell the House and the country, that it is fraud, and a fraud by which a large amount of Mr. Corwin was Senator, when he was acting wrong to pass a law making it a legal offense. If money has been extracted from the Treasury of upon the treaty which made an appropriation of it is morally wrong, pass the law and make it le- the country; and the recipients of the money thus three and a quarter millions to pay these Mexi- || gally wrong. If it is not morally wrong, pass no fraudulently extracted, should restore it back to can claimants, he received a fee to prosecuteclaims such law; for if you do, you at once make law the coffers of the Treasury, if they are honest men before the very Commissioners which he assisted and morals antagonists; you have them running and men of sound morals. in creating, and got a portion of the money appro- counter to each other. The gentleman from Ohio But, upon a further examination of this case, priated out of the Treasury.

(Mr. BARRERE) seems to argue morals on the one we find the witnesses differing with each other in Mr. STANTON, of Ohio. I wish to know of hand, and law on the other that what is right in their statements of facts. Mr. Payne, who was the gentleman whether he considers that the com- law is wrong in morals, and that what is right in one of the Commissioners, says that they susmittee were bound to inquire into anything be- || morals, is wrong in law. He seems willing to w pected it was a fraudulent case from the beginning,

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320 Cong.....2p Sess.

The Gardiner Claim-Mr. Olds.

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and that it excited the closest scrutiny. What | charged a duty which I owed my constituents and Gardiner committee. I am told, sir, that few or does Mr. E. W. Johnson, who was Secretary to the country; and even though the committee might none of the Whig papers have published it in full. the Board, say? He says that the Commissioners | acquit Mr. Corwin of the real charges alleged I should like very much so know whether the suspected the case, and that Dr. Gardiner was against him, still I felt that I had but discharged honorable gentleman, when he used the language called in again and again, and that his counsel my duty, and that I might rather rejoice, than feel

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had ever seen the report published in were called upon to explain time after time. Who mortified at such acquiital. And even now, sir, I any form, other than the garbled extracis, scatwere his counsel? Why Robert G. Corwin and regret exceedingly that a sense of duty to myself, tered broadcast over the country just prior to the Thomas Corwin. The Board suspected that it and duty to the constituency that I have the honor | Ohio and Pennsylvania elections. Has the honorwas a fraudulent case; the Secretary of the Board to represent in this Congress, compels me, in con- able gentleman, himself the publisher of a Whig suepected it; but these gentlemen did not find it sequence of a remark made the other day, during | newspaper, ever given that report publicity in his out; and R. G. Corwin swears he never knew of my temporary absence from the Hall, by the hon- own paper: Mr. Sreaker, I will venture the preit being suspected till suit had been brought against orable gentleman from New York, [Mr. Brooks,] || diction, that even now, notwithstanding the genDr. Gardiner.' The inference is, that they either to ask the kind indulgence of the House, whilst I tleman would have the country believe that the did find it out, or that Mr. Corwin has more credit review, somewhat in detail, this most extraordi- Gardiner committee have honorably acquitted Mr. for sagacity and talent than he is entitled to. The nary transaction.

Corwin, he dare not publish, without note or comgentleman from Ohio pronounced a splendid eulogy I'was aware, sir, that an effort had been made, | ment, the report of that committee, with the acupon Mr. Corwin yesterday, and spoke of him as by pensioned dependents, by hired letter-writers, companying testimony, in the New York Express. being a man of great and shining talents, and of and by paid telegraphers, to forestall public opinion Sir, until he has the manliness to do this, let him gigantic intellect; and yet with all his sagacity and upon the report of the investigating committee; not attempt to tell this House and the country experience and knowledge of men, he failed to find | but knowing that sooner or later, the real facts that I “attempted to throw odium upon the Adout that this was a fraudulent claim. The com

of the case would be spread before the public, Iministration, but that it was turned back upon me mittee by saying that he had no knowledge of its was willing to wait for, and abide by the verdict by my own party." being a fraudulent claim, say that he is a man of that should be given upon that report by the Amer- Mr.ORR, (interrupting.) I rise to a question extraordinary obtuseness, and is not entitled to | ican people.

of order. I submit, Mr. Speaker, that the remarks credit for sagacity. He either knew that it was a I had supposed that the thousand and one of my friend from Ohio' (Mr. Oles) are not in fraudulent claim, or else was too obtuse a man to false reports respecting the action of the commit- order when the House is considering the bill now find it out. If Dr. Gardiner's counsel failed to

tee, and the honorable acquittal of Mr. Corwin, | before it. discern that the claim was a sheer fabrication from which were scattered broadcast over the country, Mr. OLDS. My remarks apply to the opinion beginning to end, it argues but little for their heads were designed to operate upon the elections then of the committee in reference to this transaction. and detracts much from their reputation for talents pending over the United States, and more espe- Mr. ORR. The House is now considering speand sagacity; and if they had reason to believe cially upon my own election; for in my Congres- || cifically a bill, and the remarks of the gentleman that the claim was spurious, and was sustained by sional district, these false reports, with all manner are not applicable to that bill. forgery and perjury, it makes them parties to the of unfair and unjust comments, in handbill form, Mr. OLDS. This bill is to prevent similar transwhole transaction-equally criminal with Gardi- || just upon the morning of the election, came upon actions in future, ner himself, and deserving the withering condem- us as did the frogs upon the Egyptians, and it Mr. ORR. My reason for making the point of nation of an outraged and betrayed people. The might literally be said that they " came into our order is, that if the gentleman from Ohio goes on gentleman may take either horn of the dilemma. houses, into our bedchambers, and into our very with his remarks, some other gentlemon upon the W. E. Johnson says that the counsel were sent kneading-troughs!" But I had no idea that even other side of the House must be heard upon the for again and again to explain the claim. So far the men who gave them circulation, and carried other side, and the merits of the particular bill beas the other witnesses are concerned, you might them from door to door, and distributed them fore the House will not be at all enlightened by go on still further. Mrs. Chase and General from hand to hand, supposed for a moment that the discussion. Waddy Thompson seem to be at issue in their they contained one word of truth. I had thought, Mr. OLDS. I trust they will, before I get testimony. Mrs. Chase says that General Thomp- || sir, that when the occasion which gave them cir- || through. son is mistaken in attributing certain expressions | culation, the election, had passed, an American The SPEAKER. The Chair understands that to her in relation to Dr. Gardiner; that she never representative would no longer be assailed for the bill before the House is reported from a commade use of them.

having boldly, fearlessly discharged his duty. But | mittee appointed to investigate the very transacI find that my hour is within a few minutes of I find, sir, from the indication given by the gentle- tion to which the gentleman from Ohio refers. being out, which will prevent me from a more man from New York, that this false impression, Mr. ORR. What is the bill before the House? minute examination of this case; but I cannot con- this impression produced by these pensioned de- The SPEAKER. It is a bill to punish offenses clude without making an earnest appeal to the || pendents and hired letter-writters, is to be sec- such as the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Olds] is House to come forward and sustain this bill, as one onded and continued by the efforts of honorable now discussing; and the Chair thinks the genilestep towards arresting and condemning this sys- l gentlemen upon this floor; and that, by such a man is not exceeding the limits generally allowed tem of high-handed plundering and swindling, course, if possible, the tables are to be turned upon in debate. which has been and is being carried on, about

Mr. ORR. I do not perceive the pertinency of Congress and the various departments of Govern- If gentlemen are not satisfied with their efforts the gentleman's remarks to the bill under considment. Sound morality, common honesty, justice, to forestall public sentiment, and with their spurian eviscerated Treasury, all demand that some- ous acquittal of Mr. Corwin, but are desirious of The SPEAKER. The Chair thinks the gentlething should be done to separate these vampires turning the war upon me, I am ready and willing man is arguing the necessity of the bill, and that from the body politic. There must be something for the conflict.

his remarks are pertinent. done to restore public confidence, for it is going The gentleman from New York, (Mr. Brooks,] Mr. OLDS. Mr. Speaker, that the gentleman very fast, if not already gone. The Government in reply to my colleague, (Mr. Sweetser,) is re- from New York (Mr. Brooks) may see his error, and the functionaries of Government are beginning | ported in the Daily Globe as using the following and that the country may know in what manner to stink in the very nostrils of the nation; it is language:

the Committee of Investigation have acquitted now dead and rotten in many of its parts, while “The gentleman from Ohio, in order to evade or avoid Mr. Corwin, and turned back upon me the odium the disease is rapidly making its way into the these unanswerable facts and conclusions, attempted to of Gardinerism, I shall direct the attention of the others less accessible. Its putrid stench is sent abuse the present Administration for its extravagant ex

House to the phraseology of the resolution under forth upon every wind and is arresting the atten

penditures, as if their doing wrong would justify him for
refusing to do right. Now, if that gentleinan will look back

which the committee was raised. It is as foltion of the voracious vultures throughout the land, and observe the history of this Administration, he will see

lows: and they have gathered, and are still gathering, that in no one single instance, though a large majority in around the carcass, ready to begin their foul work. both Houses of Congress are nominally opposed to it, yet

“ Resolved, That a committee, consisting of five mem

bers of this House, be appointed by the Speakerio investigate has there been no one instance in which they have reversed They come from the mountain tops, with hideous cry or condemned its action. The gentleman himself, or rather

all the facts touching the connectinn of the said Thomas And clattering wings; the filthy harpies fly:

Coruin, the present Secretary of the Treasury, with the said a colleague of his, did, indeed, in connection with the Monsters more fierce oflended Heav'n ne'er sent,

Gardiner claim ; what fee, if any, he was to receive for his Gardiner claim, atterrpt to throw odium upon this AdminisFrom Hell's abyss for human punishment."

services us agent or counsel for said Gardiner; what interest, tration ; but it was turned back upon him by his own party."

if any, other than his fee, he purchased and held, either diMr. Speaker, the honorable gentleman from New rectly or indirectly, in said claim, and the amount paid or THE GARDINER CLAIM.

York, when he gave utterance to the language just stipulated to be paid therefor; at uhat time he ceased to act

quoted, should have known that it was unfounded
SPEECH OF HON. E. B. OLDS, mittee. He is himself the editor of a public news- fourth interest in said claim.”

in fact, and unwarranted by the report
of the com- no whate consuleration he disposed of his fee interest;

to

whom and for what consideration he disposed of his one OF OHIO, ,

paper; and if his duty as Congressman did not This, sir, is the language of the resolution. It IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,

require him to read the report of the Gardiner constituted the committee, and it pointed out disJanuary 6, 1853.

committee, certainly his duty as the publisher of tinctly and specifically the duty required by the

such newspaper demanded that he should inform House to be performed by the committee. The report of the Select Committee to prevent frauds himself of the facts, that thereby he might be able First. The committee was required to investion the Treasury being under consideration- to enlighten and not mislead the public.

gate Corwin's connection with the Gardiner claim Mr. OLDS said:

I wish, sir, that I could believe that the honor- || generally. Mr. SPEAKER: When I left my home in Ohio, to able gentleman had spoken in ignorance, rather Second. The committee was to ascertain his return to this capital, I had not the most distant than with a desire to pervert and misrepresent the (Corwin's) fee interest in the claim. idea that I should feel called upon to trespass facts connected with the Gardiner fraud. "I say, Mr. Third. The committee was to ascertain what upon the time of this House by again adverting to Speaker, that I hope the gentleman has really interest he (Corwin) had in the claim, other than the Gardiner claim. I felt, sir, that in calling for | spoken in ignorance, and that it may prove true his fee interest. the Committee of Investigation, I had but dis- that he has never seen or read the report of the Fourth. The committee was to ascertain the

me.

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amount paid, or stipulated to be paid, for such what consideration he disposed of his fee interest, and agree upon, but I found the Governor unprepared to pay interest.

so much as I considered the interest worth. to whom and for what consideration he disposed of his

I proposed Fifth. The committee was to ascertain at what

myself to purchase Mr. Corwin's claim at the estimate I one fourth interest in said claim ?

had proposed to Young, but to this he would not listen, stattime he (Corwin) ceased to act as the agent or In reply to this specification, the committee say: | ing that he still should be morally involved in the matter, counsel for Gardiner.

“ The Hon.Tbomas Corwin resigned his seat in the

for if I profited by the purchase he knew I would share it Sixth. The committee was to ascertain to whom Senate, and accepted the appointment of Secretary of the

with him, and if there was a loss upon it he would be un.

willing that I should bear the loss." and for what consideration he (Corwin) disposed Treasury, in the month of July, 1850. In the same month of his fee interest, and to whom and for what con

and previous to his going into the Cabinet of President Mr. Speaker, is not this really a very pretty

Fillmore as Secretary of the Treasury, a sale of his fee sideration he had disposed of his one fourth inter

little farce? Why, sir, analyze it, and see its variinterest in, and also of his half of the one fourth part of the est in said claim. Gardiner claim, was negotiated through the intervention of

ous parts.

Corwin felt that he would be liable to censure, These, sir, were the specific duties referred by Governor John Young, of New York, to George Law, Esq.,

" the House to the committee; all the facts touching

if he accepted the Treasury Department under these specifications the committee were required claim his acquittal upon the score of this pretended that Treasury. The verdict of the people upon

Inasmuch, sir, as Mr. Corwin and his friends | Fillmore, still holding an interest in claims against to investigate and report to the House.

If, as the gentleman from New York charges; unable to perceive, even admitting the sale to be mind. Sir, it could not well be otherwise; for turned back upon me the odium” of Gardinerism, genuine, how this makes his acquittal. The re- he had just witnessed the inauguration of Presiit must be found in their action and report upon | Claims, that a sale of his interest in these Mexican | this Hall to receive the oath of office, followed by

solution of inquiry implies, just what Corwindent Fillmore. He had just seen Fillmore enter these specifications.

the Cabinet of the deceased Taylor; and the Pardon me, then, Mr. Speaker, for trespassing i claims was really consummated. This is what upon the time of the House, in applying to each | public rumor charged, and this was my own be- murmur from yonder gallery of “there come the inquiry and specification the finding of the com

lief at the time I called for the investigation. Galphins,” which reached every part of this Hall, mittee; for by this course, without the intervention

But, sir, let us examine this pretended sale, and was still ringing in his ears. The suspicions of of pensioned letter-writers, we shall be able to unsee what it really amounts to.

the people must be quieted by at least the semderstand who has been exonerated, and upon whom

In July, 1850, Mr. Corwin accepted a seat in blance of a sale. the committee “ have turned back the odium."

Mr. Fillmore's Cabinet; prior to which a verbal He felt, too, that a sham sale to his nephew First. The committee was required " to investi

contract or sale was made of his interest in this, and partner would evoke rather than quiet the gale Corwin's connection with the Gardiner claim"

as well as his other Mexican claims; but, sir, it suepicions of the public. In this extremity, through generally:

appears from the report of the committee, that Governor Young, George Law is made to play the That duty, sir, the committee performed; that

this sale made in July, 1850, was not consum- part of “dummy.” Bob Corwin would convey investigation the committee made. But do they mated until November, 1850—full four months the impression that Governor Young was himsel exonerate Mr. Corwin from all connection with after Mr. Corwin had entered the Cabinet of the purchaser, thou the committee assign him the the claim, and thus roll back upon me the odium President Fillmore. The committee say: position of negotiator, or rather that of a "go-be

tween. of being Mr. Corwin's slanderer? No, sir; on

** The assignment of his fee interest and his interest in

the one fourth part of the Gardiner claim, and all his in- " But I found the Governor," says Bob Corthe contrary, the committee say, that,

terest in all other claims before the Board of Commissioners, “ In May, 1849, the Hon. Thomas Corwin, then a mem- (thirty-seven in number,) was executed by Thomas Cor

win," unprepared to pay as much as I considered ber of the United States Senate, was employed as counsel win to Jacob Little, of New York, in November, 1850, and

the claim worth." No doubt, sir, that Governor in the Gardiner claim by General Waddy Thompson, the the money for the purchase was then paid by George Law, Young, seeing this claim enveloped in all the original counsel of Gardiner, upon an agreement that Mr. to whom the assignment to Jacob Little was at that time doubts and difficulties that hung over it at the time Corwin should have for his fee five per cent. on whatever transferred. The money for the sale, $80,357, was resum should be awarded to Gardiner by the commissioners.

the Corwins purchased it, was unprepared to raise ceived by Thomas Corwin, and on the 23d of November In February, 1850, Thomas Corwin, in company with Rob- was deposited by him to his credit with Messrs. Corcoran

its value from $11,000 to $80,000. Consequentert G. Corwin, Esq., purchased one fourth part of the claim & Riggs.”

ly, by their own showing, this pretended sale of Gardiner, and this fourth part of said claim was assigned on the 13th of that month to W. W. Corcoran, Esq., who Mr. BROOKS. I do not desire to interrupt the

remained incomplete and inoperative until these loaned money to the Messrs. Corwin to purchase it, and gentleman further than to request that he will ex

doubts and difficulties were removed. Messrs. held the claim for Messrs. Thomas an

Corwin,
tend the quotation he has just made.

Little and Law were too shrewd operators to place in equal shares, as collateral security for the payment of the loan.

their signatures to an instrument binding themThe Messrs. Corwin paid $22,000, and relin

Mr. OLDS. I wish, Mr. Speaker, that my quished their fees on the one fourth of the claim purchased time would permit me to read the whole of the re

selves to pay any stipulated sum, much less the by them, and paid a part of Edward Curtis's fees--what port of the committee, and every word of the evi

enormous sum of $80,000, until they had some amount does not appear-as the consideration for the pur

dence upon which that report is predicated. It reliable basis upon which to estimate the value of should be read, sir, not only by every member of

the purchase. Call you this, sir, exonerating Mr. Corwin from all connection with the Gardiner claim ? Call States. The gentleman can do much towards acthis House, but by every citizen of the United

Why, Mr. Speaker, no man can peruse the

testimony of George Law and Robert G. Corwin, you this turning back upon me the odium” of complishing this object by giving the report and

witnesses sworn at the instance, and to give eviGardinerism?

dence for, Mr. Corwin, without a settied convicSecondly. The committee was " to ascertain his | testimony a publication in his newspaper. Dare he do it?

tion upon his mind, that the sale in July was a (Corwin's) fee interest in the claim.On this specification the committee say, " that made in July, the consideration of which amounted

Why, sir, was the consummation of this bargain,

mere pretense, made expressly to deceive and

mislead the public mind. Mr. Corwin was employed as counsel in the to more than $80,000, delayed until November, a

Corwin, though he sold the claim unconditioncase by General Waddy Thompson, upon an period of full four months? Does not this trans

ally, had no knowledge of the amount he was to agreement that he (Corwin) should have for his action, sir, carry upon its very face the evidence receive for jit; and George Law, the pretended awarded to Gardiner by the commissioners.” Is that the bargain made in July was a pretense, a this exonerating Mr. Corwin from having a fee

mere farce? Why, sir, this sale covered Corwin's ally, had no knowledge of the amount he was to interest, and “turning back upon me the odium?"

half of the one fourth interest, and his half of the pay for it; and yet we are told that Corwin had Third. The committee was to ascertain what fee interest. For these two interests he had only

is washed his hands of all interest in these claims"

before entering the Cabinet of President Fillmore. interest he (Corwin) held in the claim other than his paid a little over $11,000; and yet, with all the unfee interest."

certainty that hung over this claim at the time that True, sir, Mr. Corwin had nominally sold his The committee say, that in February, 1850, 1 Corwin purchased it, still hanging over it, it is claims; but I ask every candid unprejudiced mind

to tell me whether or not Corwin's real interest in Thomas Corwin, in company with Robert G. || Wall street broker, and George Law, one of the pretended that Jacob Little, a cunning, crafty

these claims was not precisely the same after, that Corwin, purchased one fourth part of the Gardiner shrewdest speculators in all the country, stipulated it was before this pretended sale, ay, sir, up to Call you this, sir, exonerating Corwin from to pay the enormous sum of more than $80,000.

the time that Governor Young and Co. fixed and being a part owner of this most fraudulent claim?

Why, sir, if anything more were necessary to

reported to the parties the price to be paid as the Call you this turning back upon me the odium?

show that this pretended sale was a mere farce, it purchase money for these claims ? Fourth. The committee was directed “ to ascerwill be found in the following extract from the

Suffer me, sir, to call the attention of the House tain the amount paid, or stipulated to be paid therefor, || Mr. Corwin's own town, and published in the

to a few extracts from the testimony of the witspeech of Robert Corwin, made in Lebanon, Ohio,

ness referred to. George Law says: and the conditions of said purchase.

“Soon after General Taylor's death, in the month of July, The committee say: "The Messrs. Corwin Cincinnati Gazette, and other Whig journals in

1850, I was here in Wasbington. Governor Young, of New paid $22,000, and relinquished their fees on the Ohio. Robert Corwin says that:

York, called at my room at the National Hotel, one fourth of the claim purchased by them, and

“In July General Taylor died, and the administration of he had a friend who was offered a seat in Mr. Fillmore's

the Government devolved on Millard Fillmore, who, in Cabinet, and who had some interest in claims that were paid a part of Edward Curtis's fees." The com

looking about him for his constitutional advisers, solicited then known as Mexican claims,' and that were to be setmittee; in speaking of the final distribution of the Thomas Corwin to accept a post in his Cabinet as Sec- tled by a commission; and that this friend, from feelings of claim, further states, that “the sum of $94,582 retary of the Treasury

delicacy, would not take a seat in the Cabinet whilst he was paid to counsel, and $107,187 50 was paid to

" In this request be was joined by Daniel Webster, but was interested in such claims. Governor Young was de

Mr. Corwin replied that he was interested in a private sirous to relieve him from that objection. I asked him if he the assignees of the one fourth of the claim origin-1 claim

against the United States Treasury; that Crawford thought that was the only obstacle in the way. ally sold to Thomas Corwin and Robert G. Cor- had been charged with committing a wrong in being inter- Young said that it was. I told him that if he (Governor

ested in a claim while a member of the Cabinet, and he Young) desired, I would purchase those claims. He said Call you this, sir, exonerating Mr. Corwin,

would not place himself in a situation which would subject that he did, but that the purchase must be unconditional;

him to a similar charge. Several days elapsed, during which because he was satisfied that if there was any understand"and turning back upon me the odium” of Gardi- he was urged to accept the post, but peremptorily refused, ing about the claims if not realized, his friend would not nerism?

chase."

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Governor

win."

until Governor Young, of New York-now in his grave take the place. I told him that there was no necessity for Fifth. The committee was directed “ to ascertain

came forward and proposed to take Mr. Corwin's interest in any contingency about them, and that I would leave it to

all the claims before the Board. Mr. Corwin did not know him (Governor Young) to say what the value of the claims at what time he (Corwin) ceased to act as the counsel what was their value, and he proposed to take for his inter- and I would purchase them at his valuation. Gov. or agent of the said Garárner, and to whom and for est whatever sum Governor Young and myself should ernor Young said he presumed that would be satisfactory;

was,

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that the friend to whom he had reference was Mr. Thomas he late commission under the treaty with Mexico? If so, I had the honor to submit to the House, at the Corwin, and that he would go and see him. Governor state whether I sold out all my interest in those claims, time I introduced the resolution calling for this Young went away, I am not sure whether it was the same and when, and to whom. day or the next morning that he returned and said that it " Answer. I was concerned with you in the prosecution of

committee of investigation, I made certain charges was satisfactory to Mr. Corwin to leave it to him (Governor claims up to the time when you went into the Cabinet of Mr. against Mr. Corwin, which the committee felt itYoung) to determine what the value of the claims was; and Fillmore. Your interes was sold prior to your going into Governor Young said, if I was satisfied, it should be the

self called upon to investigate; and that upon those the Cabinet, and your interest was represented afterwards understanding. I told him I was satisfied. Governor by Governor John Young, of New York. I don't know

charges they have acquitted Mr. Corwin, and . Young afterwards brought me a valuation of the claims, exactly by whom the whole arrangement was made with

“turned back upon me the odium” of being an (this was along that season,) and I paid about $80,000 for Governor Young. The assignment of his interest was made “ infamous slanderer." them. I recollect that there was an interest in the Gardi- to Jacob Little; be afterwards transferred his interest in On the 5th of March last, in my remarks in ner claim included. I think it was in all a little over these claims to George Law. I understood that Young was $80,000 (but not much) that I paid ; but I cannot say how the negotiator, and that the assignment was made to Little

this House upon the tand bill, I charged that much I paid for the Gardiner claim in particular. I gave to enable Young to get the money from him fairly; then it

Corwin had been employed in this case, that it my check for the amount for all the claims, or Mr. Corwin's was transferred to Law, from whom the money was re- might receive the aid, not of his legal abilities, not interest in them."

ceived. The sale was made prior to the organization of Mr. of his great eloquence, but of his political position, Again, Mr. Law says:

Fillmore's Cabinet, which was some time in July, 1850; but
it was agreed that Governor Young and myself should esti-

and the influence of his great name. He is not “ I purchased those claims as a favor to Governor Young,

mate the value of your interest in all the claims you were charged with being a party in the fraud, but the who was a friend of mine, and in whom I had entire confidence. He seemed to be desirous and anxious to relieve

concerned in. We were concerned in thirty-seven claims | charge is, that he sold his political position and Mr. Corwin from this embarrassment, in the way of going in all. We, Governor Young and myself, concluded the

political influence in aid of a claim, fraudulent in examination of all the papers, and made out the estimate a into the Cabinet. Witness had very little acquaintance

itself, and sustained by perjured testimony.. 1 short time prior to the next regular session of the board in with Mr. Corwin he knew him by sight; but he (the witness) would have done the same thing for any other person November, 1850."

repeated the same language, showing my precise to oblige Governor Young, having full confidence in him.' Now, Mr. Speaker, I ask, in all fairness, does meaning in the remarks I submitted at the time of "I did not know anything of the value of the claims, ex

not this case really assume this one aspect? Corwin | calling for the committee of investigation. That must sell his interest in these claims before enter

I may place myself right, and be correctly undercept what was stated to me by Governor Young. My ob ject was not to make or lose money, but to do Governor ing the Cabinet of President Fillmore. Conse- stood, I will read from the remarks then made, as Young a favor."

s made the purchase, quently, he sells to Governor Young at such price reported in the Congressional Globe, page 2303, relying upon Governor Young's judgment and integrity. I did not undertake to go into the matter in detail."

as Governor Young himself, and Robert G. Cor- part 3d of the 24th volume, and repeated in the win should fix upon them; giving them time to

Appendix to the same volume, page 266: Now, Mr. Speaker, what is the only true infer- || wait until the award of the commissioners should

“Sir, let me divert the attention of this conimittee for a ence to be drawn from such testimony? Why || be known, before fixing the value. And then, as

single moment to charges that common rumor fasten upon

the present Secretary of the Treasury, and which the counsimply this, sir: Governor Young, the sub-treas- || Governor Young was Mr. Corwin's sub-treasu- try demand to bave investigated by this Congress. I refer, urer of New York, the custodian of the Govern

Publie rurer in the city of New York, George Law, the in- sir, to his connection with the Gardiner claim. ment money in that city, was the personal friend timate friend and surety of Governor Young, is

mor charges, sir, that Mr. Corwin received $79,000 as the

agent of this Gardiner claim. Now, sir, the inquiry natuof Mr. Corwin. Perhaps, sir, his continuance in || used to throw an obscurity over the transaction, rally arises, Why did (r. Gar ner stipulate to pay Mr. Corthe office of sub-treasurer depended upon Corwin's and give it the semblance of a sale.

win this enormous fee? Was Mr. Gardiner so dumb that assuming the control of the Treasury Department. Why, sir, when you have exposed and set aside he could not act as the agent of his own claim? Not so, Perhaps, too, sir, the fact of Governor Young's | George Law's connection with this transaction,

sir; he is a man belonging to one of the liberal profes

sions, and cannot be supposed to be devoid of commort being the sub-treasurer, and controlling the enor- you have taken from it the veil of obscurity, and sense; and, sir, if his claim was a just one, he could him. mous revenues of the Government in New York, it stands, like Moore's Prophet when the veil was self present it before the proper tribunal and ask a decision will explain George Law's great confidence in, lifted, exposed in all its "hideous deformity.”

upon its merits. But if his claim was bad, he would nat

urally desire to bring the stronger influence to its support. and extreme willingness to oblige him. Perhaps, And yet, sir, this is what the gentleman from He could not have selected Mr. Corwin because of his great sir, Governor Young's control of the Government New York calls exonerating Mr. Corwin, “and eloquence; for, sir, a plain, simple statement of facts was money made it necessary, to save appearances, to turning back upon me the odiom!"

all that was allowed before the tribunal. He could not have use George Law, or some other third person, lest These five specifications, Mr. Speaker, in the very

selected bim on account of his legal acumen in taking and it might be said that the Government money, in order in which I have named them, embrace all the

arranging testimony, for, sir, this case was prepared and

the testimony taken in Mexico; and every one knows that the hands of Governor Young, had been used in duties imposed by the resolution of the House Mr. Corwin, though a great favorite in Mexico in consethis transaction. Perhaps the fact that George upon the Committee of Investigation. That reso- quence of his bloody hand and hospitable grave' sentiLaw was one of Governor Young's sureties, his lution, sir, nowhere charged the committee with

ments, was never in Mexico. Nay, more, sir; a grand in

quest of the country, upon their oaths, have said that this name being upon his official bond for $400,000, the duty of inquiring into Corwin's knowledge of whole case is a forgery. Why, then, sir, was Mr. Corwin will account for his great confidence in the Gov- the fraudulent character of Dr. Gardiner's evi- selected? The answer is obvious: Mr. Corwin is a great ernor, and the loose and unbusiness-like manner dence. No such specification is made in the reso- man with his party. He has been made so, sir, by the in which, by his own showing, he seems to have lution, and as a matter of course no testimony

Whigs of Ohio. They made him their Representative first

in this House ; then, sir, they made him their standardconducted this whole transaction.

was adduced before the committee to establish any bearer of the party in Obio, by selecting him as their canBe all these conjectures as they may, there can such inference or implication. If any such thing didate for Governor; then, sir, they sent him to the Senate be no doubt but that Governor Young was ex- had been attempted, Mr. Corwin, if he chose,

of the United States. But this is not all; he was at one tremely anxious to have Mr. Corwin enter the could at once have objected to the jurisdiction

time the favorite of his party in Obio, as a candidate for the Cabinet of President Fillmore; and in order to re

Presidency. His name, in connection with

that office, was of the committee, and have told them that they at the mast-head of his party press. Sir, Mr. Gardiner, as lieve his “ feelings of delicacy,” undertakes to were going beyond the duty assigned them by a shrewd man, knew all this. He knew that this man must negotiate a sale of Corwin's interest in these va- the House.

be possessed of great influence with a Whig Administrarious Mexican claims. And to oblige Governor

tion; and for the exercise of this influence, for the power Mr. BROOKS. Will the gentleman from Ohio

of this position, Mr. Gardiner could afford to give Mr. CorYoung, without any investigation or examination, | allow me to read the preamble to the resolution ? win $100,000, if thereby he could get allowed his claim of the sagacious George Law agrees to purchase those Mr. OLDS. Certainly, sir.

$480,000.' Bút, sir, in what light does it present Mr. Corwin claims. This he does without the least anxiety or Mr. BROOKS. It is as follows:

before the country? The people had sent him here to guard hesitation, as Governor Young is to assess their

their interests; they were paying bim eight dollars per day

“ Whereas, a strong suspicion rests upon the public mind to watch the National Treasury ; they supposed, sir, that value. This, too, is satisfactory to Mr. Corwin, that fraudulent claims have been allowed by the late Mexi

with the vigilant and ever-watchful eye of Mr. Corwin inasmuch as the claims are to remain untransferred, can Claim Commissioners, with one of which it is suspect

upon the Treasury, all would be safe. But, sir, rumor says and his partner and nephew is also to assess their

ed Thomas Corwin, Secretary of the Treasury, bas been that they were mistaken in their man; for whilst receiving

improperly connected ; therefore,” &c. value. Mr. Corwin's feelings of delicacy" are

pay from the people to watch and guard their Treasury, this

Will the gentleman from Ohio incorporate it in Mr. Gardiner, knowing his man, feed him on the other side relieved, and he takes his position in the Cabinet. his speech?

--- he outbid the people. Gardiner's $100,000 was as omGovernor Young and Bob Corwin wait until the

nipotent over your National Treasury as was the 'Open award of the claims commission is known, or as

Mr. OLDS. Certainly.I will. But, Mr. Speak

sesame' of Ali Baba over the cavern of the Forty er,

it does not in the least change the interpreta- Thieves.'' Mr. Law says, until some time along that season,

tion of the resolution, neither does it in the least and then they assess the value; and then, and not till

Mr. Speaker, the evidence of General Thompthen, the contract is consummated and the bargain change the character of the specifications against

son himself, as well as that of Edward M. Johnreduced to writing.

Mr. Corwin.
The precise time, the com-

son, the secretary of the board of Mexican claims mittee inform us, was in November, more than

Why, sir, the committee do not hesitate to say

commission, fully demonstrate it was political infour months after Mr. Corwin had entered the that the commissioners allowed fraudulent Mexi

fluence that Gardiner desired to aid and strengthen Cabinet of President Fillmore.

can claims. The suspicions of the public then, his claim, and not forensic eloquence or legal acMr. Speaker, a careful reading of this testimony | Is it not, sir, equally as clear, that the connection as affirmed in this preamble, were well founded.

cumen. has satisfied me that Governor Young, Mr. Cor

Johnson, in his testimony, says: win's sub-treasurer in New York, and not George | the preamble, was improper? If not, sir, why of Mr. Corwin with one of them, as affirmed in

" After the first instances, the board became satisfied that Law, was the real purchaser of Corwin's interest

Dr. Gardiner bimself understood his own case better than in these Mexican claims, if such a loose unbusi

do the committee, as they have done in the bill anybody else, and that the best means of arriving at the truth ness-like transaction as this could be dignified with now under consideration, seek to make, in future, I would be to receive his own statements, and cross-examine

him on all these points." the name of a sale. The extracts already read precisely such a connection, a misdemeanor, even

though the claim may not be a fraudulent one? Gardiner, then, was fully competent to the from Mr. Law's testimony lead the mind imper- || Mr. Corwin, sir, is welcome to the full benefit of ceptibly to this conclusion; and the following ex

management pf his own case; and in the selecall his friends can make out of this preamble. tion of his counsel and agents, his object was to tract from the testimony of Robert G. Corwin, taken before the commitiee, confirms the impres- || honorable gentleman from New York, or any hon

Now, sir, with these facts before us, will the secure the aid of such persons as had power and

influence with the commissioners. sion:

orable gentleman, rise in his place and say, that This is shown in the testimony of Waddy Robert G. Corwin appeared as a witness, and was the committee have not fully sustained every spe- Thompson, who, in speaking of the employment Sworn. " Question by Hon. Thomas Corwin. Were you con

cification made in the resolution of the House? I of Major Lilly, i mai commexion of one of the cerned with me, as counsel, in prosecuting claims before may, perhaps, be told that, in the remarks which commissioners, says :

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