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refused to have anything to do with that amend.

Mr. PAINE. I do not say that he refuses to vote for that amendment, but I do understand him-and if I am mistaken I beg he will correct me to have intimated to the House that notwithstanding that amendment he will vote against this Veteran Reserve corps. Jr. CONKLING. My friend I know will indulge me in saying that he did misapprehend me. What I said was, that I should vote with pleasure for the amendment of the gentleman from Pennsylvania, (Mr. STEVENS,] and should seek to amend the section still further, if it was not stricken out, so as to accomplish the object which the gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr. PAINE] now announces.

Mr. PAINE. I am happy then to understand the gentleman as being willing to vote for the Veteran Reserve corps if the provision shall be so framed as to meet his views.

Mr. COYKLING. If we are going to have

any, I will.


Mr. PAINE. Allow me to read this provision for the Veteran Reserve corps, as it will stand amended by the proposition of the gentleman from Pennsylvania :

The Veteran Reserve corps shall be officered by appointment from any officers and soldiers of volunteers or regular troops who have been wounded in the line of their duty while serving in the Army of the United States in the late war, or have been disabled by disease contracted in such service, and my fet he competent for garrison or other duty to which that corps bas heretofore been assigned.

Mr. Speaker, I undertake to say that that provision is fair to all the wounded officers and soldiers of the volunteer and of the regular Army; that it embraces them all, and that under this provision it will be the duty of the Secretary of War and of the President-a duty which they cannot erade honestly or fairly in reorganizing this corps-to select out of the whole body of the officers and soldiers wounded or diseased those who are best fitted to fill these regiments. Now, I ask what objection there can be to that.

I will not detain this House now by discussing all the arguments of the gentleman as to whether or not this Veteran Reserve corps should be established. I believe it is absolutely certain that not only in peace but in war we must employ a force equal to that embraced in these regiments for the performance of just exactly the duties which these inen and these otficers will be fully able to perform. And it is absolutely necessary that we should retain them in regimental organizations, and not have them in detachments or in squads. Then, I ask, what objections, upon principles of equity and humanity and justice, can there be if we undertake at once to provide for this case, and to discharge a duty of solemn obligation to the gallant men who have gone through this war, and suffered in the defense of their country, and for the maintenance of the national existence?

I shall vote to amend, improve, and perfect this provision, and after that is done I shall Fote to retain it as a principal feature of this bill.

Mr. ROGERS. I have been greatly im•pressed by the remarks which have been made by the distinguished chairinan of the Military Committee, [Mr. SCIENCK,] as well as the remarks of other honorable gentlemen who have sustained this provision of the bill, in regard to the bravery and valor of the men who are to be provided for by this section.

But I have not yet forgotten that we have an in:erest at stake in which thirty million people are interested, far greater and above the mere interest which may be contemplated by this bill for the benefit and advancement of those who have been wounded in the late war. Now, I am as willing as any man in this House to accord to the brave and gallant soldiers every effort to reward them for the duties which they have performed upon the field of battle, which may be within the legitimate sphere of our action. But while I am willing to accord to them all that we owe to them, I still remember

that we have a great country at stake, and that Great down to the present time, where, in the we are here to day deliberating for the purpose organization of a great army, an invalid corps of establishing an arıny for the wbole country, has been provided for in the very commenceto represent thirty million people, an army ment. that some day may be marshaled against the Sir, I say that all history will be false if it be combined forces and hordes of Europe, that true that it is to the best interest of any country, may attempt to trample upon our rights. at the formation of an army, to incorporate

But the interests of this particular class of into that army a body of men who are recog. men, the particular claims that they have upon nized before they enter the army as unfit to do the community, must give way to the interests the great work of military duty for the protecof the people at large. We must not allow tion of the country when an invasion may come our feelings and prejudices in favor of these upon it or an insurrection may break out in it. men to so warp our judgments as to lead us to Now, I am in favor of paying these men liblegislate against the best interests of the conn. erally in the way in which the Government has try, merely because these men have exhibited | always provided for its soldiers in such cases. bravery and valor upon the field of battle and It is enough to put them on an equality with have been wounded.

the other soldiers and officers of the Army, Sir, as much bravery, as much valor, as much with the other brave men who have shown des patriotism as were ever exhibited upon the termination and valor equally with them, with• field of battle in any country, whether upon out making this particular class legislation, and this continent or upon any other, have been without specifying and picking out these indiexhibited during the late war by men who were viduals as the ones who are to have particular not wounded at all. And because men in the consideration from the Government, by placing discharge of their duty may have received them in this Reserve corps and making it a wounds that is no particular evidence of their part of the permanent organization ofthe Amer. bravery over those whose bravery undaunted ican Army. defied the bullets that have whirled around As was remarked by the learned and elo. them, whose bravery in battle was evinced in quent gentleman from New York, [Mr. Corkthe most determined manner, and yet who had | LING,) cases will arise fast enough by accidents the good fortune to escape any wounds what- and sickness and wounds received in the ser

vice to constitute a corps of this kind in the Now, those persons who have been fortunate || Army, without providing for such a corps at enough to obtain positions in this Veteran the outset. You cannot point to the legisla. Reserve corps took them with the distinct tion of any country in the world where hereto. understanding--at least I so understood it, and fore provision has been made in the formation I think almost every one so understood it-- of an army, that ten, twenty, or any other numthat that Veteran Reserve organization was ber of regiments should be composed and conmerely for a temporary purpose ; and because istituted of men unable to do the most important they have had the benefits of those places for military duty. two or three years of bloody warfare, without Why, sir, I have understood from military being exposed to the dangers to which other men, in conversation with them, that they want soldiers have been exposed, that is no reason able-bodied men in the Army, men able and why we should pass this class legislation in ready at any time when invasion may come their favor, when they embrace not more than upon the country on a sudden, when we have one out of twenty of the wounded soldiers of not time to prepare for war, before volunteers the Union Army.

can be called out-that they may have ableMr. BINGHAM. Does not the gentleman bodied and efficient men to advance to the proknow that the text of the bill does not confine tection of the country at once, and that is the it to this Veteran Reserve corps?

object and intent of the formation of a regular Mr. ROGERS. That is the meaning of the army in this country. bill and the only construction which can be When our Constitution provided that Conput upon it. If the intention is not to give an gress should have power to raise and maintain advantage to the Veteran Reserve corps why an army, it had reference only to the raising say that the oflicers shall be taken from their and maintaining of a regular army; and it is ranks? Why is it that the body of the Reserve a fact which the history of all countries in all corps to be established by virtue of this bill times attests that a standing army, which is to shall be taken from the body of the Reserve be called upon in emergencies for the defense corps as it exists at this time? Now, I say that of the country, should be composed of able. this bill will authorize the officers of the Re- bodied men, competent to render effective serserve corps as it now exists to take the places | vice. in these ten regiments, while that other body But, sir, it is enough for me to know that of wounded men, twenty times as large, who General Grant, General Sherman, General have been so unfortunate as not to get into the || Meade, and General Thomas have all given Veteran Reserve corps, are entirely excluded the weight of their opinion against the formafrom the benefits of the Reserve corps to be || tion of any such corps as this. Sir, I have established by this bill.

confidence in the patriotism and the sagacious For one I am unwilling to make this dis- judgment of these officers. I do not pretend crimination between those who have not had to be a military man; I have never been in the the benefit of the Reserve or Invalid corps Army; but as one of the Representatives of and those who have had it. I assert, without the people of this great country, I am ready to fear of contradiction, that the present Reserve | accept the views of those who are better qualicorps, or the highest maximum number of it fied than I am to determine what is best cal. at any time during the war, would not consti- culated to promote the efficient organization tute more than one twentieth of the wowded of the Army of the United States. Tam satissoldiers of the Union Army. Why should we fied that the advice given by such men as these make this class legislation here? These per- is prompted by the purest motives and the sons have been protected and taken care of by | highest wisdom; and I am willing to be guided the Federal Gorernment during three years of by that advice. war merely because they happened to have the Mr. ROUSSEAU. Will the gentleman from good fortune to get in this Reserve corps, while New Jersey yield to me for a moment? twenty times as many men who were not so Mr. ROGÉRS. I have only three minutes fortunate and who were exposed to the same of my time remaining, and I cannot yield. risks of battle are not provided for by this bill. Besides, sir, this very question has been under

But I am mainly opposed to this bill for a consideration in the Senate of the United States. graver and greater consideration, and that is The Army bill as first presented there confor the interests of the country. I am not tained a section similar to this. But the coinwilling to do anything here for the benefit of mittee of the Senate, to whom that bill was these men that will destroy the morale of the referred, struck out the whole section with American Army and impair its efficiency. No regard to the Veteran Reserve corps ; and subinstance can be pointed out in the history of sequently two thirds of the Senate voted against the world, from the time of Alexander the II inserting in the bill any such provision as that



contained in the bill reported by the honorable New York. Under the distribution suggested, selves equally efficient upon the fiel and in chairman of the Committee on Military Affairs. her share would be thirty-two. The others we discipline. And I would suggest whether it I am satisfied that the members of the Senate, can casily fill up from the western States. would not be fair to give to all such officers a in taking this action, were actuated by con- And it must be recollected that one of the fair chance. siderations of duty and a regard to the best objections to the Veteran Reserve corps is that Mr. SCHENCK. That is so much a matter interests of the country, guided by the knowl. it was not distributed fairly, and not because of history that I shall not undertake to answer edge which they had derived from leading mil- members are opposed to providing for wounded it. I will only say that we shall have to depend itary men.

officers and men. The bill corrects that. It upon the statistics furnished at the other end However much regard, therefore, I may have provides there shall be a fair distribution of of the avenue, and I do not know but each for the members of this corps on account of wounded men in this corps and not to turn man had better make up his own table as to the brayery which they have shown, I am not them all out.

the comparative merits of volunteers and reg. willing, with all the light we have on this ques- For my own part I am in favor of providing | ulars. I move the previous question. tion, to jeopard the interests of the country for this for these wounded officers and men. I hold Mr. TAYLOR. I have an amendment that one instant for the sake of advancing the wel- in my hand a letter from a wounded soldier of I wish to offer before this section is disposed of. fare of any one class of people in this country, my own regiment, asking and praying for this Mr. SCHENCK. I will withdraw my deSir, these men ought to be provided for, and as a boon. I will read it :

mand for the previous question so as to allow the Government is able to take care of them ;

General, you know I have served my country as

it to be read. and I am for inaugurating measures that will a faithful soldier, from the beginning of the war until

Mr. TAYLOR. I desire to state that by a break down this Freedmen's Bureau system, the ending, and all I ask of it is merely to give me a bill which passed this House a few days since,

situation in the Army as a soldier. You know your this refugee system, and this provost marshal regiment was through many a hard-fought batilo,

the law on the statute-book depriving pensionsystem, seeking at every man's heels for his

that I never was absent from one except when ers of their pension during the time they were blood; and I am ready to vote for spending the wounded. I now bear tho scars of thirteen wounds, employed by the Government was changed.

and I want a place as a soldier if I can get it." money of the Government in caring for the

Now, if this bill should pass and this Veteran soldiers. But do not let us undertake, in this Mr. Speaker, it is for the wounded soldiers Reserve corps should be constituted, the offiindirect way, regardless of the interests of the as well as the wounded officers I want a Vet- cers and soldiers in that corps would receive country, to provide for these men. Let us be eran Reserve corps. It is because we have their pensions. Therefore I propose to insert liberal in appropriations of money for their wounded oflicers and soldiers that a Veteran in line eight, after the word "corps," as folsupport, but when we are organizing an army Reserve corps is necessary.

lows: for the defense of the country, let us seek to Mr. SCHENCK. I propose to call the pre- And pensions of all officers appointed to the Vetinsure the efficiency of that army.

vious question on this section after making a eran Rescrre corps, to privates onlisted in said corps, Mr. WASHBURN, of Indiana. For my part, remark or two in behalf of the committee. to cease from their appointment or enlistment. Mr. Speaker, I am in favor of a certain kind of I am determined we shall not be misunder- Mr. SCHENCK. That does not properly class legislation. I am in favor of legislation | stood. I am determined to correct a misrepre. 1 belong here. I would rather not see it inserted for the benefit of that class of persons who are sentation which has been insisted on although | in this bill. It is the law now. I insist upon the survivors of those that have lost their lives | again and again corrected. I do it by saying the previous question. in the defense of the country. I am in favor, this: the Committee on Military Affairs had The previous question was seconded and the also, of legislation for the benefit of those who no idea of framing any bill providing for this main question ordered. have suffered wounds, or incurred disability in Veteran Reserve corps except by making The question was on agreeing to the amendthe service of their country. I am in favor of | appointments to it from the wounded officers ment of Mr. Davis to strike out of section four such class legislation. . And, Mr. Speaker, my from all arms of the service, at least so far as the following: objection to the provision of this bill with ref- volunteers are concerned. More than that, I Often regiments to be raised and officercd as hereerence to the Veteran Reserve corps is that it am willing it should be extended to include the inafter provided for, to be called the Veteran Reserve should, in my judgment, be extended so as to regular Army. include more of these men who have been I will give notice to this House that no oppo

Mr. CONKLING. I demand the yeas and wounded or partially disabled in the service, sition will be made, but on the contrary my provided they are able to discharge the duties entire approval given to an amendment such as The yeas and nays were ordered. required of them.

is proposed by the gentleman from Pennsylva- The question being taken on the amendment, I hope, Mr. Speaker, that the House will nia and the gentleman from Wisconsin-in the

it was decided in the negative-yeas 30, nays observe that all the gentlemen who oppose this fifth section, that the language shall be altered 84, not voting 69; as follows: Veteran Reserve corps, however much sym- so as to read that the Veteran Reserve corps YEAS-Messrs. Delos R. Ashley, Baker, Baldwin, pathy they may profess for the officers and sol- shall be officered from any officers and soldiers Benjamin, Boutwell, Boyer, Brandegee, Conkling. diers who have rendered faithful service, finally | of the volunteers and of the regular Army who

Davis, Eldridge, Farnsworth, Finck, Glossbrenner, settle down in their remarks to the point made

Goodyear, Aaron Harding, Edwin N. Hubbell, have been wounded during the late war. I ai

Jenckes, Marshall, Marvin, McCullough McRuer, by the gentleman from New Jersey that they | determined there shall be no misapprehension Nicholson, Phelps, Ritter, Rogers, Sbanklin, Taber. are opposed to any of the wounded men being | about this, so that when gentleinen vote to

Van Acrnam, Elihu B. Washburne, and James F.

Wilson--30. in the Army. Because General Grant has ex- strike out the provision for the Veteran Reserve NAYS-Messrs. Ames, Ancona, Barker, Baxter, pressed the opinion that able-bodied officers corps I want it to be understood they are voting Beaman, Bidwell, Bingham, Blaine, Broomall, Backshould be placed on duty in the far West and to strike it out with the distinct understanding

land, Reader W. Clarke, Sidney Clarke, Coffroth,

Cook, Defrees, Delano, Deming, Donnelly, Eckley, in the South, the gentleman from New York that the officers are to be seiected from all arms

Eggleston, Eliot, Ferry, Garfield, Grider, Hale, Abner [Mr. CONKLING]attempting to support himself of the service, officers and privates.

C. Harding, Hayes, Henderson, Ilolmes, Asabel W. by that opinion, argues in favor of giving all Mr. HARDING, of Illinois. I hope the

Hubbard, Chester D). Hubbard, Hulburd, James M.

Humphrey, Ingersoll, Julian, Kelley, Ketcham. Kuythe easy places to the able-bodied oilicers of gentleman will go a little further, and provide kendall, Loan, Longyear, Lynch, Marston, MeClurg, the regular Army, while I contend that the easy for the apportioning of the appointments to be Mereur, Miller, Moorhead. Morris, Myers, Newell, positions should be given to the wounded and made among the several States. It is said the

Niblack, O'Neill, Orth, Paine, Patterson, Perhain,

Price, Samuel J. Randall, William II. Randall, Ray. disabled soldiers who have so nobly fought for appointments shall be made to the effect that mond, John H. Rice, Rollins, Ross, Schenck, Scofield, their country.

the public interest shall be subserved. The Shellabarger, Sitgreaves, Smith, Stevens, Stilwell, Now, Mr. Speaker, I think the only question Veteran Reserve corps being in the service now

Taylor, Thayer, Francis Thomas, Jolin L. Thomas,

Thornton, Trowbridge, Upson, Robert T. Van Horn, that is here for discussion is whether a wounded they would of course be selected according to Ward, Henry D. Washburn, William B. Washburn, officer or soldier shall have the “ soft places'' these dictates of public interest.

Welker, Williams, Windom, and Woodbridge-81. in the Army, the duties of which they can dis- vided that these officers shall be apportioned

NOT VOTING-Messrs. Alley, Allison, Anderson,

James M. Ashley, Banks, Bergen, Blow, Bromwell, charge as well as the most able-bodied officers among the several States as nearly as possible, Bundy, Chanler, Cobb, Culloin, Culver, Darling, and soldiers. I will, for one, vote for it,

Dawes, Dawson, Denison, Dixon, Dodge, Driggs.. It has been suggested that these men should Mr. SCHENCK. I have no objection to

Dumont, Farguhar, Grinnell, Griswold, Harris, H:urt,

Higby, Hill, Hogan, II ooper, Hotchkiss, Demas Hube retire from the Army upon their pensions. that. There is virtually a provision" as nearly bard, John H. Hubbard, James R. Hubbell, James Now, sir, I do not want them to be put in the as the public service will warrant.

Humphrey, Johnson, Jones, Kasson, Kelso, Kerr, position of pensioners taking money from the Mr. HARDING, of Illinois. There is the

Lallin, Latham, George V. Lawrence, William Lav

rence. Le Blond, McIndoe, Mckee, Morrill, MoulGovernment when doing nothing, while they || point.

ton, Noell, Pike, Plants, Pomeroy, Radford, Alex. can discharge the duties of very many places

Mr. SCHENCK. The gentleman may move

ander II. Rice, Rousseau, Sawyer, Sloan, Spalding. where we now have able-bodied officers. Men an amendinent when we come to that section.

Starr, Strouse, Trimble. Burt Van Horn, Warner, in the Veteran Reserve corps if discharged

Wentworth, Whaley, Stephen F. Wilson, Winfield, We thought when we provided that these ap. and Wright-69. would only get eight dollars pension whereas || pointments should be made proportionately So the amendment was not agreed to. they now have full pay and are on duty; and among the States we were doing about as well the officers, numbering some three hundred as we could. We could not cut a man in two.

Mr. SCHENCK moved to reconsider the and more, who now get full pay, would only get Mr. SMITH. I desire to ask the gentleman rejected; and also moved that the motion to

vote by which Mr. Davis's amendment was pensions from seventeen to thirty dollars. a question in relation to the reorganization of

reconsider be laid upon the table. The gentleman wants to know how we are the Army. I would like to know what was the to get rid of them. Let them be distributed | proportion of the regular Army officers who

The latter motion was agreed to. to the States and Territories according to the served in the war compared with the volunteer

The fifth section was then read, as follows: number of troops raised. Of the three hundred officers belonging not only to the Veteran Re- Sec. 5. And be it further enacted, That the officers officers of the Veteran Reserve corps one hun- serve corps but to other branches of the Army,

of the thirty-seven regiments of infantry, first pro

vided for in the foregoing section, shall consist of dred and twenty-nine came from the State of who distinguished themselves and showed them.

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The SPEAKER. The gentleman will please and where nothing blooms but the cactus and vided for: all the original vacancies in the grades reduce his amendment to writing.


negro. of first and second lieutenant, and to thirds of all Mr. CHANLER. I understand this amend- Sir, this insidious effort on the part of the other original vacancies in each of the grades above that of first lieutenant, to be filled by sclection from

ment to allow any soldier who has been wounded gentleman from Pennsylvania to destroy the among the otiieers and soldiers of volunteers who

in the United States service to be promoted to American Army is in keeping with his suchave served in the Army of the United States in the be an officer of the Veteran Reserve corps. cessful effort to force the civil rights bill late war for the suppression of rebellion, and who

upon have been distinguished for capacity, good conduct,

I understand the gentleman from Ohio, [Mr. this House, to reduce the dignity of American and efficient service; but graduates of the United

Schenck,) in this amendment, to have adopted | citizenship, overriding the veto of the PresiStates Military Academy shall be eligible to appoint- the suggestion of the gentleman from Pennsyl- | dent, and placing the ipse dixit of a peculiar ment as second lieutenants. The Veteran Reservo corps shall be officered by selection from the officers

vania, (Mr. STEVENS.] Aud from the point | clique upon the laws of the country. of the present Veteran Reserve corps and by ap

of view in which I look at it I recognize in it a I hope, before it is too late, before the Mili. pointment from any officers and soldiers of volunteers step in the right direction. I suppose it is the tary Committee is utterly committed to this who have been wounded in the line of their duty while serving in the Army of the United States in

effort of the gentleman from Pennsylvania to folly by its too great trustfulness in the gentlethe late war, or have been disabled by disease con

include the colored troops and permit them to man from Pennsylvania, this matter will be so tructed in sueh service, and may yet be competent for

be made officers of the Veteran Reserve corps, ventilated and placed before the country that garrison or other duty, to which that corps has heretofore been assigned. The officers selected to fill

and that is proper, that is just, that is consist- all may know whether or not the chairman of original vacancies in the regiments of colored troops ent with the teachings of the modern “Moses." the Committee on Military Affairs is aware of shall be taken from among the present officers of col- [Laughter.] And if gentlemen will only go on his position, whether or not he really means ored troops who have served in the Army of the United States in the late war.

in that direction they will reorganize the Amer- that the wounded and disabled colored soldier And all appointments of oficers in the Veteran Reserve corps and in regiments

ican Army on a basis that will make it irresist- shall be made an officer of the Army of the of colored troops shall be made on oxamination, as ible. They can

carry the war into Africa."! United States. Let that gentleman come forhereinafter provided, having reference to capacity, good conduct, and efficient service in every case.

They can overcome all sections and all sexes. ward and avow whether or not he is in earnest Mr. PAINE. In order to make that section

I hope it was in that spirit that the gentle- upon that subject, or whether he is innocently

man from Pennsylvania made that suggestion. conform to section three, as amended, I move

allowing himself to be misled by the great phito strike out the following:

[Cries of“ Louder!''] Louder! Sir, I consider | lanthropist of the country, the venerable states

the suggestion of the gentleman from Pennsyl- man from Pennsylvania. All the original vacancies in the grades of first licutenant and second lieutenant, and two thirds of

vania loud enough. It speaks in trumpet tones Mr. CONKLING. I will read the amendall other original vacancies in each of the grades

of the philanthropy and patriotism of that ment I desire to offer, and the Chair will be abore that of first lieutenant, to be filled by selec- gentleman.

kind enough to indicate the proper place in tion from among the officers and soldiers of vol

Sir, I do not think the gentleman from Ohio unteers who have served in the Army of the United

this section for it to come in. It is as follows: States in the late war for the suppression of rebelhas looked into this question as deeply as he

Provided, That the officers of the existing Veteran lion, and who hare been distinguished for capacity, should have done. I think he has allowed him- Reserve corps shall, upon the passage of this act, bo good conduct, and efficient service; but graduates of the United States Military Academy shall be eligi

self to be duped by the astute mind of the able mustered out of service, and be put upon the same ble to appointinent as second lieutenants. chairman of the Committee on Appropriations,

footing with other disabled officers. And to insert in lieu thereof the following:

and if he is not careful he will find a bill intro- The SPEAKER. That amendment can be duced here making a specific appropriation for

offered to come in at the end of the section by And in making appointments to fill the original

this vacancies in the thirty-seven regiments thus pro

very class of officers; for officers taken from way of addition to the section, but will not be vided for, and for a period of three years after the among the colored troops of the line who have in order for action until other amendments to passage of this act, all first and second lieutenants been wounded in the service of their country. perfect the section have been disposed of. and two thirds of the officers of each of the grades For it must be borne in mind that the appro

Mr. CONKLING. I will give notice that above that of first lieutenant shall be selected from among the officers and soldiers of volunteers who priations which have been made for the Army at the proper time I will offer the amendment bave served in the Army of the United States in the as now organized will not be sufficient for what I have read. Jate war for the suppression of the rebellion, and who haye been distinguished for capacity, good conduct, is here proposed.

The SPEAKER. By general consent of and efficient service; but graduates of the United

This is a new movement; one in the right the House, the amendment of the gentleman States Military Academy and enlisted men shall be direction, but still a new movement. The gen- from New York [Mr. CON KLING] can be reeligible to appointment as second lieutenants in those regiments, as in the new regiments of cavalry,

tleman from Ohio is being led in a direction he ceived at this time, to be voted upon when all under the provisions of the third section of this act, knows not whither. If the American armies the amendments for the purpose of perfecting and not otherwise. shall be organized as is proposed, if the col

this section shall have been disposed of.

Mr. SCHENCK. I move to amend the fifth Mr. SCHENCK. That amendment only ored troops are to be brought into the organizamakes the section conform to what the House tion, as is proposed by him and by the distin- section by striking out in the twenty-fifth line has determined in regard to the other section. guished gentleman from Pennsylvania, he must the words "the present,'and inserting in lieu I have no objection to it.

consider the effect upon the existing organiza- thereof the words those who have served as, Mr. GARFIELD. If I understand the tion of the Army. Accepting the proposition and by striking out in the twenty-fifth and amendment, as read, it provides that graduates that has been laid down here by gentlemen on twenty-sixth lines the words who have served ;'' of the United States Military Academy and the other side of the House, that the black man

so that the clause will read: enlisted men shall be eligible to appointment is superior to the white man, then we must pro- The officers selected to fill original vacancies in the as second lieutenants. I want to know if that vide means for retiring our white officers. It regiments of colored troops shall be taken from among

those who have served as officers of colored troops in does not leave it open so that any man, whether is not possible that the competition can exist

the Army of the United States in the late war. he has ever served or not, can go and enlist with safety to the white officers. one day and the next day be commissioned We have been told by the gentleman'from

The language as it stands a: present assumes

that all the officers of colored troops are yet under this provision. I simply make the Pennsylvania [Mr. STEVENS] that the battles of this country have been won by the colored

in the service ; while in fact a great many have inquiry. Mr. PAINE.. The amendment is carefully troops, led by white officers, to be sure. But

been mustered out even since this bill was

framed. guarded on that point, and prescribes precisely | suppose those troops are to be led by black the same conditions and requirements as are officers, as suggested by the gentleman from

The amendment was agreed to. prescribed in regard to the six new cavalry | Pennsylvania, where are your white officers to Mr. PAINE. I move to amend by inserting regiments in the third section.

go? Í submit to the gentleman from Ohio that after the word "war,'' in the twenty-seventh Mr. GARFIELD. I am satisfied. I see

he shall look well into these questions. He is line, the following words: that it is so. amending this bill in a manner which will

But graduates of the United States Military AcadThe amendment was agreed to.

defeat it. There are gentlemen on the other emy shall be eligible to appointment as second lieuMr. SCHENCK. In pursuance of the noside of the House who cannot stand this thing;

tenants in these regiments as in the new regiments of

cavalry under the provisions of the third section of tice I gave. I now more to strike out the words there are gentlemen who are not ready to this act. " by selection from the officers of the present officer the United States armies with colored

So that the clause will read as follows: Veteran Reserve corps, and," and to insert

officers. after the word " volunteers’ the words " or of

We have refused, through our committees,

The officers selected to fill original vacancies in the

regiments of colored troops shall be taken from among the regular Army;" so that the clause will upon a direct application to this House by

those who have served as officers of colored troops in read:

petition, to appoint colored soldiers as officers; the Army of the United States in the late war. But The Veteran Reserve corps shall be officered by but by this act of indirection, as suggested by I graduates of the United States Military Academy

shall be eligible to appointment as second lieutonappointment from any officers and soldiers of volun- the gentleman from Pennsylvania, the Com- ants in these regiments, as in the new regiments of teets or of the regular Army who have been wounded mittee on Military Affairs are being duped into cavalry, under the provisions of the third section of in the line of their duty wbile serving in the Army of

following a course which they themselves have this act. the United States in the late war, or have been disabled by disease contracted in such service, and may

already refused to take, and they will stand Mr. FARNSWORTH. Why not make offiFet be competent for garrison or other duty, to which stultified upon the record of the House. cers of other volunteer troops eligible to these that corps has heretofore been assigned.

My friend from Wisconsin [Mr. ELDRIDGE] || appointments? The section, if amended as Mr. CONKLING. I desire to move to amend suggests that this is a movement toward the proposed, would confine appointments as offithe amendment so as to provide that the pres- tropics; that it is an effort on the part of the cers of these colored troops to those who have ent officers of the Veteran Reserve corps shall sagacious chairman of the Committee on Ap- || been officers of colored troops and to cadets be mustered out and put upon a par with other propriations to move toward Mexico and the who shall hereafter graduate. There is no wounded officers, so that they may all take tropics; to take possession of those countries propriety in that. their chance together. where the white man wilts and turns yellow,

Mr. MARSTON. I move to reconsider the


vote by which the amendment just offered by among the present officers of colored troops who have to command them; and certainly a member the gentleman from Ohio [.\r. SCHENCK] was served in the Army of the United States in the late from Ilinois declared that all the highest offiadopted. The SPEAKER.

cers would resign if you put them in the field. That motion will be

And to insert in lieu thereof the following: Mr. FARNSWORTH. Who was that? entered, and will be reserved till the question

The officers of colored troops herein provided for A MEMBER. General Logan.

shall be selected and appointed in the same manner is taken on the pending amendment. provided herein for officering the six regiments of

Mr. FARNSWORTH. I do not know Mr. PAINE. My object in offering this cavalry provided for in the third section of this act. whether that general made that remark or not. amendment was simply to give to the graduates of West Point, under the precise conditions

I think that will cover all that the gentleman I think I have heard him deny ever having from New Ilampshire seeks, and I hope, there

made it. But certain it is, and I presume every which we have imposed upon them in the cases fore, he will withdraw his motion to reconsider

member of this House who was a member of of the six new regiments of cavalry and the so that I may move my amendment.

Congress at that time can bear witness to the thirty-seven regiments of regular infantry, an

Mr. MARSTON. I withdraw the motion to

fact, that there were applications upon appliopportunity to become competitors for second reconsider.

cations of soldiers in the field for the privilege lieutenancies in the colored troops. I see no Mr. FARNSWORTH. I now move the

of being examined before this board and for reason why the graduates of West Point should be excluded in this case from the privilege

amendment. I am not particularly wedded to appointments in the colored regiments, a great this method of officering the colored troops.

many more than could be appointed, which they have in the other two cases. It brings up the question to be determined by

Now, hundreds of these soldiers thus applyMr. FARNSWORTH. I have no objection to the gentleman's amendment, if he will make

the Ilouse. It places the colored troops uponing were obliged to serve in the war in the the same footi that you place the cavalry

ranks because there were not colored troops it a little broader. I do not see why we should and infantry, and on the saine footing as the

enough to admit them to these places. Why extend the section so as to include graduates of Veteran Reserve corps. I do not see why the

should we not, then, open the door for these the Military Academy unless we also extend the door should not be open to all officers and sol

men? Why should we confine the officering privilege to oflicers and soldiers of volunteers. diers who served in the Army for commissions

of this colored corps to those that have served If the amendment be made as broad as the in the colored troops as in the cavalry.

with them? Open the door. I have no doubt provision with reference to the six regiments Mr. GARFIELD. I desire to oppose the

that all these worthy oflicers who desire to of cavalry I shall have no objection. amendment of the gentleman from Illinois, and

come in and who have served well with the Mr. MÄRSTON. It was to accomplish that will give in a word my reasons. Asit has been

colored regiments will stand a better chance very object that I moved to reconsider the rote

already stated, there were nearly two hundred for appointment than new men. Undoubtedly by which the amendment of the gentleman

regiments of colored troops for whom the offi- || they will. But do not let us confine it to any from Ohio was adopted. I desire that appointcers were selected from the Ariny, and exam

particular class of men. Open the door broadly ments to the command of colored troops shall incd before being appointed. I doubt whether

for competition to every man who deems himbe thrown open, not only to those who have we had anywhere during the war so carefully

self worthy to seek the place. served with colored troops, but also to all the a selected body of men as those who com

Mr. CHANLER. My object in offering the officers of volunteers. manded the colored troops.

amendment to the amendment is to place Mr. PAINE. I do not say that I am opposed I will remind the Honse that it required no

myself right upon the record, after having to the proposition of the gentleman from Illilittle moral courage to take position in the col.

endeavored in vain to induce the gentlemen nois [Mr. FanxSWORTH) or the gentleman from ored regiments when they were first raised. I

on the other side to officer the colored troops New Hampshire, [WIr. MARSTON ;] but it seems remember well when I drew an order calling

with colored men. There is nothing so utterly to me that it is hardly fair to load down my

a board which organized the first regiment of inconsistent in legislation as the effort of genamendment in that way. colored troops. I know that many officers said,

tlemen on the other side to induce a class of It undoubtedly occurred to the committee, in “You cannot find enough respectable oflicers

our fellow-citizens to do the fighting and then framing this clause of the bill, that some conin this Army to officer that regiment." When

not give them the same reward they claim for sideration was due to those officers of the Army a prominent staff officer accepted the position,

their own laborers in the field. There has who had encountered during this war the preand was made colonel of the regiment, and the

never been any greater incentive offered to a judices which at first unhappily prevailed ice was broken, we were enabled ultimately to

soldier than that of rising gradually from the against service in the colored troops. I am get it raised. For a long time men were com

humblest to the highest rank. And when genready to recognize the claims of those men who were willing to stand up in the face of that

pelled to bear reproaches as commanders of tlemen who have served in the field, after hav. prejudice and serve as officers of colored

negroes. Those who bore the prejudice, and ing reiterated upon this floor time and again who bore the taunts, and who showed them

how great are their obligations to the soldiers, troops. If, however, the proposition of the gentleman from Ilinois be adopted, we may per

selves to be able officers, it is no more than bring in here propositions to exclude the black

right, I think, should all these vacancies. When man from any chance of becoming an officer haps fail to obtain a proper recognition of the the original vacancies are filled they will be

in the Army, I deem it fit and proper at this desert of those officers who have heretofore served with colored troops. I am in favor of then thrown open to all. I hope the amend

time to bring in an amendment whereby the ment will not prevail.

whole organization shall be repealed. It is a giving to the officers who have gallantly served with the colored troops hitherto the first oppor

Mr. CHANLER. I offer the following amend

blot on the military organization of America, tunity in the officering of these colored regiment to the amendment:

a blot on the whole carly policy and system of

this Government. You say that Democracy ments. But after this privilege shall have been

The act or part of any act which authorized the use of colored troops in the Army of the United States is

at the origin of the Government claimed that extended to them, I certainly am in favor of hereby repealed.

all men were equal. If the negro is your equal giving to the graduates of West Point an op- All rets or parts of acts inconsistent with this sec

at home, is he not so on the battle-field? Ånd portunity to become second lieutenants of these tion of an act are hereby repealed.

if you deny him the right to march with the troops. I shall probably vote for the amend- Mr. FARNSWORTH. I hope the gentle- sword at his side as well as with the musket ment suggested by the gentleman from Illinois; man from New York will yield a few minutes on his shonlder, you should, to be consistent, but I would rather vote for it as an independ- of his time so that I may reply to the gentle- take from him both. He should not be allowed ent proposition, and not as a load upon the man from Ohio.

to use either as an implement of war unless he amendment which I have offered.

Mr. CIANLER. I yield five minutes of my is allowed to use both. There is no variation Mr. STEVENS. I believe I cannot vote for time to the gentleman from Illinois. Then I or shadow of turning from the line of right and the amendment or the suggestion. If I read propose to speak to my own amendment to the justice in this matter. this rightly, after the first vacancy the subse- amendment.

I know that in their inner hearts the gentlequent vacancies become open for all troops. I

Mr. FARNSWORTH. I desire to reply to men on the other side do not wish to oflicer the do not know how many regiments of colored the argument of the gentleman from Ohio, | Army with negroes. I know that this is the troops there were. Iam told there were nearly [Mr. GARFIELD.] He says that it required a last grand act of the apocalypse of the gentle. two hundred. We have only eight regiments considerable degree of moral courage at one man from Pennsylvania, [Mr. STEVENS.) But provided for here. I think it is best to leave time for a man to take command of colored let him begin at the root by recognizing the it as it is. It only gives to those who served in troops. Now, I recollect very well that at the equality of the negro in arms as well as elsethe colored troops the vacancies in these eight very first organization of the colored troops where. regiments. I think it fair to leave, as this does, there were men enough in the Army of the After riding over the President's veto of the all future vacancies to the discretion of the

United States who had the moral courage to civil rights bill, are you willing to take the appointing power.

apply for positions in colored regiments, many position that, as regards the military service, Mr. PAINE. As there seems to be some

more than were required to fill the regiments. you have disenfranchised this people? The opposition to this I withdraw it.

There was no time when there were not at the slander is false and unjust. Such conduct as The question recurred on Mr. Marston's

office of Colonel Foster in this city pigeon | that is political heresy and against your own motion to reconsider.

holes full of applications for positions as officers doctrine. I say that the Republican party is Mr. FARNSWORTH. I have an amend- of colored troops. Now, sir, why not open the to-day guilty of political heresy in not officering ment which I think will cover the ground. I

door to these men who had just as much moral the black troops with black officers. I know move to strike out these words, in the twenty

courage at the time as those who succeeded in that it has been ruled out of order to use such fourth, twenty-fifth, twenty-sixth, and twentygetting the cominissions?

language here, but I also know that in the face seventh lines:

Mr. STEVENS. I remember in this House, of the facts you dare not deny that what I say The officers selected to fill original vacancies in

when it was proposed to raise colored troops, is true. My friend on the left [Mr. Baldwin] the regiments of colored troops shall bo takon from that many declared that nobody could be found


that is sound doctrine. He, too, is waiting


I am

an opportunity, under the modern Moses, to order that there shall be no evening session for previous question upon the amendment and the pass over the Jordan

any particular day, or they can order that the amendment to the amendment. Mr. PRICE. Will the gentleman allow me evening sessions be dispensed with until other- The previous question was seconded and the a word? wise ordered.

main question ordered. Mr. CHANLER. Oh, certainly. The gen- Mr. FARNSWORTH. Can the majority The first question was upon agreeing to the tleman is always so very courteous. [Laughter.] || of the House order an evening session at any amendment to the amendment.

Mr. PRICÉ. I want merely to thank the time, if the motion of my colleague [Mr. The question was taken; and it was decided gentleman for having given the House and the WASHBURNE] prevails ?

in the negative-yeas 23, nays 85, not voting country the information that Moses did cross The SPEAKER. Certainly, at any time. 75; as follows: the Jordan. (Laughter.] We had thought Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois.

YEAS-Messrs. Ancona, Boyer, Chanler, Coffroth, before that he never got over.

myself in favor of suspending indefinitely the Eldridge, Finck, Glossbrenner, Grider, Aaron HardMr. CHANLER. I thank brother Aaron order for evening sessions.

ing, Edwin N. Hubbell, James M. Humphrey, Mar

shall, Niblack, Nicholson, Samuel J. Randall, Ritfor his suggestion. I do not see the original- Mr. CONKLING. Then I move to amend

ter, Rogers, Ross, Shanklin, Sitgreaves, Taber, Thornity of his idea, and I can hardly see the force it so that the suspension shall be indefinite, to ton, and Whaley-23. of his remark

NAYS-Messrs. Allison, Ames, Baker, Baldwin, the end that we may not be required to be on I ask the House to come to a vote upon this

Barker, Baxter, Benjamin. Bidwell, Bingham, Blaine, the watch to ascertain if we are to come here Boutwell, Bromwell, Buckland. Bundy, Sidney Clarke, proposition. I want to see how many men at an evening session.

Cobb. Conkling, Cook, Davis, Defrees, Delano, Demthere are here who are sincere, how many men Mr. STEVENS. I hope the amendment

ing, Donnelly, Eckley, Eliot, Farnsworth, Garfield,

Hale, Abner C. Harding, Henderson, Hooper, Asahel who, having cried up the colored soldiers, are will not prevail. It may be necessary,

W. Hubbard, Ingersoll, Jenckes, Julian, Kasson, unwilling to give them the rank of officers in Mr. CONKLING. Is debate in order? Kelley, Kelso, Ketcbam, Kuykendall, Litham, the Army of the United States. I ask the The SPEAKER. It is not.

George V. Lawrenco, Loan, Longyear, Lynch, Marsprevious question on my amendment.

Mr. CONKLING. Then I think this prop

ton, McClurg, Mekee, Mereur, Miller. Moorhead,

Morris, Myers, Newell, O'Neill, Orth, Paine, Perham, Mr. SCHENCK. I thought it a good time osition should not be debated either way. Phelps, Price, William H. Randall, Alexander H. for the previous question to be demanded after

Rice, John H. Rice, Rollins, Rousseau, Schenck,ShelThe question was upon the amendment of

labarger, Spalding, Stovens, Thayer, John L. Thomas, the gentleman had made a speech, and I rose Mr. CONKLING to the motion of Mr. Wash- Trowbridge, Van Aernam, Ward, Warner, Elihu B. for that purpose: BURNE, of Illinois.

Washburne, Henry D. Washburn, Williain B. WashMr. CHANLER. I had no desire to cut off Upon a division there were--ayes 72, noes 22.

burn, Welker, Williams, James F. Wilson, Windom,

and Woodbridge-85. debate upon this proposition. I did not mean So the amendment was agreed to.

NOT VOTING-Mosers. Alley, Anderson, Delos R. to demand the previous question, but I ask the The motion, as amended, was then agreed to. Ashley, James M. Ashley, Banks, Beaman, Bergen, yeas and nays on my amendment.

Blow, Brandezee, Broomall, Reader W. Clarke CulMr. CONXLING. I hope the previous ques


lom, Culver, Darling, Dawes, Dawson, Denison, Dixon,

Dodge, Driggs, Dumont, Eggleston, Farquhar, Ferry, tion will not be called before I have an oppor- Mr. TROWBRIDGE, from the Committee Goodyear, Grinnell, Griswold, Harris, Hart, Hayes,

Higby, Hill, Hogan, Holmes, Hotchkiss, Chester D. tunity to offer my amendment. on Enrolled Bills, reported that they had exam

Hubbard, Demas Hubbard, John H. Hubbard, James Mr. SCHENCK. The gentleman's amend- ined and found truly enrolled Senate bills of R. Hubbell, Hulburd, James Humphrey, Johnson, ment is already pending, and I move the pre- the following titles; when the Speaker signed

Jones, Kerr, Laflin, William Lawrence, Le Blond, vious question. the same:

Marvin, McCullough, McIndoc, McRucr, Morrill,

Moulton, Noell, Patterson, Piko. Plants, Pomeroy, Mr. CONKLING. I hope the gentleman will An act (S. No. 261) for the relief of Ann Radford, Raymond, Sawyer, Scofield, Sloan, Smith, withdraw that. I will renew it. I want to say Heth, widow of William Heth, of Harrison

Starr, Stilwell, Strouse, Taylor, Francis Thomas,

Trimble, Upson, Burt Van Horn, Robert T. Van a word or two upon my amendment. county, Indiana;

Horn, Wentworth, Stephen F. Wilson, Winfield, and Mr. SCHENCK. I withdraw it.

An act (S. No. 241) directing the enrollment Wright-75. The yeas and nays were ordered upon Mr. of Agnes W. Laughlin, the widow of a deceased So the amendment to the amendment was CHANLER'S amendment. soldier, as a pensioner;

not agreed to. Mr. CONKLING. Will the Chair be kind An act (S. No. 252) granting a pension to

During the roll-call, enough to state the situation of the question Mrs. Sarah E. Wilson; and

Mr. NIBLACK stated that Mr. KERR had Dow?

An act (S. No. 260) granting a pension to paired with Mr. Hill. The SPEAKER. The gentleman from New Emerance Gouler.

The result of the vote was announced as above York [Mr. CONKLING) moved a proviso to be


stated. added to this section, which was reserved by

Mr. CONKLING. I move that the House general consent until the section should be per- The House resumed the consideration of the do now adjourn. fected. There is now pending an amendment bill to reorganize the Army.

Mr. DEMING. I ask the privilege of making to that amendment, on which the yeas and nays The pending question was upon the amend

a personal explanation. have been ordered. ment of Mr. CHANLER to the amendment of

Mr. CONKLING. I insist on my motion Mr. CONKLING. After that question has | Mr. Farnsworth to the fifth section.

that the House adjourn. been taken, then, I will make the suggestions Mr. CONKLING. I stated a few moments The motion was not agreed to; there beingwhich I desire to present to the House. ago that I would make a brief statement in

ayes sixteen, noes not counted. reference to the amendment which I have EVENING SESSION DISPENSED WITH. offered.

PERSONAL EXPLANATION. Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. Has the Mr. SCHENCK. Do I understand that the Mr. DEMING. I ask unanimous consent evening session been dispensed with?

gentleman from New York [Mr. CHANLER] to make a personal explanation. The SPEAKER. It has not.

offered an amendment to the one offered by the There was no objection. Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I move, gentleman from Illinois (Mr. FarNSWORTH,] Mr. DEMING. A discussion arose yesterthen, that until further orders, the evening ses- and that the previous question has been or- day upon a personal matter, between the gensions be dispensed with. dered on those amendments ?

tleman from New Jersey, [Mr. Rogers,] the Mr. BLAINE. I.object to that.

The SPEAKER. The previous question gentleman from New York, [Mr. COXKLING, ] The SPEAKER. It is within the power of has not been called; but the yeas and nays and the gentleman from New York immedia majority of the House to do it.

have been ordered upon the amendment to ately on my right, [Mr. RAYMOND.] I paid Mr. CONKLING. Then, let us do it. the amendment.

but little attention to the discussion as it proMr. STEVENS. I hope the gentleman will Mr. SCIENCK. Then why should the gressed; but on reading the report in full in the confine his motion to this week.

gentleman from New York [Mr. Conkling] Globe of this morning, I feel it due to the gen. Mr.WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I will agree discuss another amendment which he pröroses tleman from New York (Mr. RAYMOND] to add to that modification.

to offer presently, when he can discuss just a few words to the disclaimer which he then Mr. BLAINE. Has the gentleman from as well after we have disposed of those now uttered, that he was not responsible for the Illinois a right to make the motion ?

paragraph in the Times, which was first read The SPEAKER. Certainly; it is a priv. The SPEAKER. By general consent the by the gentleman from New Jersey, and which ileged motion, pertaining to the order of busi- | proviso proposed by the gentleman from New was afterward commented upon by various ness in the House, and can be entertained || York [Mr. Conkling) was regarded as pend- gentlemen of the House. even pending a demand for the previous ques- || ing, but not to be acted upon until the gentle- I was not present in the House when the tion.

man from Ohio [Mr. SCHENCK] and other gen- bankrupt bill was introduced by the gentleman Mr. CONKLING. I hope the gentleman | tlemen had perfected the section. And if' the from New York, [Mr. CONKLING.] I shortly will modify his motion so as to make it general. || previous question should now be called and afterward saw the gentleman from Rhode IslWe can order evening sessions whenever we seconded, and the main question be ordered, and, [Mr. JenCKES,] the author of the bill want them.

it would not exhaust itself until a vote had been which was acted on recently by the House, The SPEAKER. The Chair will state to taken upon the proviso offered by the gentle and who, as we all know, has labored assidthe House how the matter now stands. The man from New York, [Mr. CONKLING.) The uously during the last two sessions to perfect House under a suspension of the rules directed gentleman from Ohio can call the previous ques- that bill; and he informed me that the bill the holding of an evening session each day tion on the amendment of the gentleman from presented by the gentleman from New York except Saturdays " until otherwise ordered.” Illinois, (Mr. FARNSWORTH,] and the amend- was the identical bill which he himself had so The words "until otherwise ordered" place it ment to that amendment moved by the gentle- laboriously prepared. I thought but little of in the power of the majority of the House to man from New York, [Mr. CHANLER.]

the circumstance at the time; but a day or two order otherwise at

And they can Mr. SCHENCK. Very well: I will call the Il later, I saw a paragraph in the New York




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