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“the just rights of the people in the Com- it now is ! I never heard that they oh
House : : and it cannot be said that jected to the system of boroughs. This is, “it is not called for, when it is known that then, a sudden thought of theirs, or of " Major Cartwright, on Monday evening, yours. —No, Mr. Perry, they can, " said he now held in his hands, ready to surely, never object to the wode of elect
be presented to the House, 320 petitions, ing that very parliament, into which, with"uniform in their prayer for reform, and out any complaint against it, they were so signed by one hundred and twenty thou- eager to obtain admittance. If the parlia
-We know not in what ment was good enough for them to sit in " terms to speak of the disappointment by the means of borough elections, it was " which the friends of civil and religious surely good enough to decide upon their “ freedom have suffered by the loss of the petition. ----But, the worst of it is, the " Bill for the relief of the Roman Catho- thosc, in general, who voted for the Ca" lics; because with that reverence for the tholics are amongst the sturdiest enemies of " House of Commons which it is our desire reform. Will Mr. CANNING, for instance,
to cherish, we cannot reconcile with any give us a lift in the way of reform! It is “ rule of principle, the vote of Monday very true, that a reform of the parliament
night on a single clause of the Bill, with would soon settle all these religious dis"the former votes on the whole of it. putes; but, of those who were for this " There must be a secret history in the ma- Bill, fove would not vote for a parliament
nagement of the division in the Commit. ary reform.-am very glad to hear, tee, which if it could be fairly promulthat there are petitions for reforin; but, í gated, would prove to every unbiassed am sure they will be signed by very few mind the necessity of that reform in the of those who take a lead in religious sects.
representation which it is the object of those people have always some little boon " Lord Rancliffe lo bring into discussion. to ask for themselves; and they well know, "Some of the arts practised on the occasion that the way to get tirat is not
ask for a "have been whispered, and we may be reform of the parliament. Nay, I will bet
enabled to speak of them hereafier. But Mr. Perry a trifle, that the very persons,
certainly the triumph is not to be boasted in whose behalf this Bill was brought in, " of that was obtained by the means which would be amongst the foremost in opposing
hear were practised, and which, after parliamentary reform ; because that would 65 all the efforts that were made, was so cut up, root and branch, the very things
trilling in its number. The Bill is lost, they are seeking for. I do not mean to
indeed, and the consequences may be say, that all those, who have taken an "such, as we shudder to contemplate; but active part in pressing for this measure, "what must be the feeling of the tempo- wish to get money by it. I know the
rary winners, when they shall reflect on contrary. Mr. BUTLER, for instance, I ' "the very triling majority by which they am satished, is actuated' by no selfish mo" have contrived to continue the thraldom tive. I could say
others; " in which willions of their fellow-subjects but, generally speaking, the object is to get a are held!
Their triumph will be short, share of the public money by one mean or indeed, if the result of this vote shall be another.-- But, how comes it, that the
to quicker the public mind in the cause Catholics, if they were friends of reform, " of parliamentary Reform; and we sin- never talked of it before? I have read, in
cerely hope that that will be the some of their speeches, as bitter reflections "first fruits of the decision.”—Upon on the Reformers as ever escaped the lips my word, Mr. Perry, this is being very of any scoundrel Borough-morger, of any sanguine indeed! Can you believe, corrupt trafficker in seats; and, having that the reform which was rejected upon heard this, and perceiving from the tenor Mr. Madox's exposure of 11th May, 1809, of all their toasts and resolutions, that they will be produced by the rejection of are amongst the enemies of Relorın, ami this Bill ? Can you believe, that the re- now to be made believe, that their cause form, the necessity of which has not been ought to produce that change? evident enough in 20 years' war, and ture to assure Mr. Perry, that MAJOR 800,000,000 of debt, and in the property CARTWRIGHT, that most able, inost zeatax, will become evident in the refusal to lous, and most disinterested friend of freen let two or three score of Roman Catholics dom, will find no material support froin
The Catholics wished, it the Catholics, or, at least, from those who seems, to get into this same parliament as were calling for this Bill.We are now,
it seems, to expect dreadful consequences | tion, who, if again in power, would again in Ireland. And why? Do you see the insult the people much more than the Bill that is passing about arms in Ireland ? Pittites have ever done. What! Did Do you keep in mind the powers which the not Mr. Tierney and Mr. Ponsonby and Irish government has over the people? Lord Milton join Mr. Canning and Mr. Do you remember the Act, which was Perceval in making the famous * STAND drawn up by the Whigs, which was left “ against POPULAR ENCROACHby them as a legacy to the Pittites, and • MENT," when Mr. Madox, on the which was said to have been penned by 11th of May, 1809, offered to prove the Mr. Grallan himself? Do you remember sale of a seat? And, with this fact in our that Act? Have you its powers in your minds, will any one attempt to persuade eye? If you have, you will be at perfect us, that we ought to look to the Whig ease upon the score of disturbances in Ire- faction as friends of reform! land ; and, you will also be able to judge, how far the supporters of the Bill now AMERICAN WAR.PRISONERS OF thrown out, seeing that they were the real War. Mr. BARLOW.
It appears authors of the Act above alluded to, merit that the loan, which our hireling prints the exclusive appellation of " friends of assured us the American President was on"civil and religious liberty." -Besides, able to raise, has been raised, and that, I again ask, what reason have the mass of too, in the single city of Philadelphia. — the Irish Catholics to be more discontented It also is stated, that Mr. MADISON has now than they were before this Bill was actually named plenipotentiaries to negocirejected? The Bill, if carried, would ate a peace with us, under the mediation of have done them no good. Why, then, if Russia. - I hope we shall accept of the not deluded, if not deceived, should they mediation, and put an end to this the worst regret its failure ?--Oh, no! Mr. Perry, of all our wars. But, the hireling press is we are in no danger of disturbances in Ire against such acceptance. It labours hard land! The people of Ireland appear to be in perpetuate this war and to make it as a perfectly loyal and orderly race. You cruel as possible, by adding to the animonever hear from them any noise about any sity on both sides. -There is a circumthing. They are as quiet ag any people stance, which I have heard of, relating to can be ; and, really, it is a pity, that any Americans, who were serving on board of hints should be thrown out, like those of our ships, which it will be sufficient, I am Mr. Perry, calculated to disturb their sure, barely to state.- -The Americans minds.At any rate, they ought not to always asserted, that we detained many of be deceived. The Bill would have done their native seamen on board of our ships of them no good, as I have frequently shown ; war. -This now appears to have been by the rejection of the Bill, the great body true. For, since the war has been going of the Catholics have lost nothing, nor have on, our government have thought it pruthey been deprived of the chance of gaining dent (and it was certainly just) to put these any thing. What new reason, therefore, men, or some of them, at least, out of our can they have to be disaffected towards a service, it not being at all probable that an government, with which they appear from American would, without force, fight their silence to have been hitherto so well against his country. I have only to add, satisfied ?- - To return, for a moment, to that the men I allude to, have, as I underthe subject of parliamentary reform, I beg stand, been, not discharged, not sent home, the reader to bear in mind, that the Morn- but made prisoners of war, to be exchanging Chronicle never speaks on the subject, ed against persons, whom the Americans except at times when its faction has receiv- may have taken from us in actual war.ed a blow. I confess that it would be a I do not positively assert this to be a fact, remedy for almost all our evils ; but, the but I have heard it stated as such, and I do worst of it is, the Whigs never talked think that it is a matter which calls for about this remedy, when they were in public attention. Being upon the subject power. Nay, have not all the leaders of of America, I cannot refrain from noticing them talked against it, of late years, in a certain letters, which appeared in the most vehement style? What, then, are Courser, the MORNING Post, and other we to expect froin them? The people newspapers, a few days ago, purporting to must rely upon themselves only; upon their be letters, written by Mr. JOEL BARLOW to own lawful exertions, and not upon the Mr. Madison, from France. These let. good will or exertions of this deceitful fac- ters our newspapers say they have copied
from American papers; and the American rica, had not the impudence to pretend to papers say, that they copied them from a believe them to be authentic ; but, he puts London paper.---The letters are sheer this question to his readers : " Who will fabrications, intended to make people bedeny that it is, in the highest degree sinlieve, that Mr. JEFFERSON was in negocia " gular, how such fabrications, carrying tion with Napoleon, or, at least, that the such evidence on the face of them, of an latter made him an offer, the end of which " intimate knowledge of the subject and was to make Mr. Jefferson a military despot persons to which they relate, should over the people of America. - This is FIND THEIR WAY INTO AN only worthy of any notice at all, as it shows " ENGLISH NEWSPAPER ?” So the lengths to which the vile hirelings of that I repeat my surmise, that the base fa. the press will go to effect any purpose, brication had its origin here, and found its which it is their interest to pursue.
way into the American newspapers in the It is very true, that we never saw any way that I have described.- After this, such letters in any London paper. It is can we believe that a hireling of the press certain that no such letters were ever pub- will stick at any thing? The people of lished here; but, I will not. assert, that America would not be deceived by so they had not their origin here; that they clumsy a fraud; but, not so the most were not fabricated here; that they were “thinking people" of England, for whom not even printed here, and that, too, in nothing is too gross; and, I have not the some newspaper.
-Nothing is more easy smallest doubt, that there are men at this than to put such letters into some moment citing this offer of Napoleon as a copy of an edition of a newspaper, and to proof of his being a sworn foe of freedom, leave them out of all the other copies. That and of his serious and settled intention to single copy might be sent off to America, enslave all the world, and annihilate Engwhile the rest of the edition were circulated land. In short, it appears to me, that here. There are not wanting men to do there is nothing, which, if its purport be such a thing on this side of the water, and, to blacken an enemy, the mass of the people I dare say, there are not wanting men to of this country will not believe. Nay, I receive and republish on the other side. am quite satisfied, that there are people
-Back came these letters in the Ameri- enough in the loungiog-rooms in London to can papers, and, in republishing of them denounce as “ a friend of Buonaparte," here, not a word is said to apprize the any one who shall call the authenticity of people of the fact of their having been fa. these letters in question. bricated. I dare say, that a very considerable part of the people of England will ARMY AGENCY. -From a paper, laid take them for authentic documents, and before the House of Commons, not long will, of course, believe, that Napoleon since, it appears, that this is a subject actually proposed to Mr. JEFFERSON to worthy of great public attention; and, as I make him a despot. The propositions said find that it is speedily to be brought for to have been made to him are these :.“ 1. ward in discussion, it may be useful to " That on condition of his declaring war draw the attention of my readers towards " against England, the presidency should it.-- There is a regulation, which pre“ be guaranteed to him by his Majesty the scribes, that Agents of the army shall give " Emperor for life.-2. That one mil. security for the due discharge of their trust; " lion of francs, and even more, if found and, certainly, such a regulation is neces
necessary, should be annually placed at sary, seeing what large sums pass through “ his disposal during the war, to be repaid their hands.---But, as appears from the " after it was ended, or as soon as the in- above paper, some of them give no security os tended alterations in the form of govern- at all, while others do to a large amount.
ment were effected.-- -3. That three. Mr. Ridge and Mr. Shee, for instance, the " thousand French officers, instructed to former of whom is agent to the Recruiting
obey the President implicitly, should be Service, and the latter to the Local Mili“ sent out to serve in the army of the tia, give a security each to the amount of “ United States.-4. That ten ships of £20,000. Mr. Robinson, who is agent to “the line, with their proportion of frigates, the 13th Dragoons, gives security to the “s should be dispatched to the United States amount of £10,000. While Messrs.
to be manned and officered exclusively Greenwood and Cox, who are agents to one
by American seamen.”—The corrupt half of the whole army, give no security at wretch, who published the letters in Ame-all, except for one regiment, and that only in the sum of £1,500.- - The profits, the from this " friend of regular government, bare profits of these agents, or, at least," social order, and our holy religion,” as their allowance for agency, amounts to up- Joun Bow les has it, which paper is also wards of forly thousand pounds a year. worthy of the attention of that " thinking" Between three and four millions of the pub- public. The amount of this balance lic money pass through their hands in the exceeds eighly thousand pounds, about course of the year; and yet, all the secu- equal in amount to the nell produce of the rity they give is £1,500.---The money Duty on Hops for three years ! But, may, perhaps, be very safe in their hands; there are some particular items that I think but, what reason can there be for their not it right to notice.--He is stated to have giving security for every regiment, as well received and to have paid £647 15s. 10d. as for the one, for which they do give se- to a Mr. Briarly “ for expenses of Merino curity ? ---The allowance for the agency " sheep.” Now, I am yet to learn, that to the whole of the army is little more than this “ public" have ever possessed any £80,000 a year. This house swallows up Merino sheep. I have heard of the king more than the half of the sum ; and, surely, having some given him by the Spanish gothey ought to give proportional security. vernment; I have heard too of his sales of
- It is said, in answer to this, that the sheep; but, I never observed that any of several Colonels are responsible for the the proceeds of those sales were carried to agent of their choice; and, that, if the the credit of this famous “ public;" and, agent fail, the public come upon the Colo- I am yet to learn the reason why this same nel. But, Sir David Dundas, being then public should have been charged with any Commander in Chief, was asked by the expenses relating to Merino sheep: Military Commissioners, whether he re- The king gave some of these sheep away; garded the Colonels as being really re- but, I always understood, that they besponsible in such a case, said that he did longed to him, and not to the public. So not think that they were responsible. that, I say again, that I can see no reason Now, if he, and in his then situation, whatever for the public being saddled with could give such an opinion, I leave this expense, especially as the king's privy the reader to guess who would have purse, exclusive of all the expenses of his to pay the piper in case of the failure household, is so amply supplied by this of an agent.-- -But, suppose the Colonels same “public."--If I were a member to be responsible by law, who is to be an- of parliament, I would certainly inquire swerable for their ability ? You cannot, how the people came to have any thing to as the saying is, get blood out of a flint do with this expense. -The sheep were stone, which is only saying, that you can given to the king; he did what he pleased not get money from a man who has no with them; he sold them or kept them or money; and, as to the putting of a Colonel gave them away; and, therefore, if the in jail, you cannot do that if he be a mem- people refrained from all inquiry into the ber of parliament; and, in cases where cause or the motive of tlie gift, they, surely, you can do it, the power could not be ex- could have nothing to do with the expense ercised without a great injury to the service, of bringing or managing the sheep. supposing the Colonel to be of any use. From another item it appears, that Chin., What, for instance, would be the mode of nery received, from 1805 to 1807, getting redress for the public if the agent £110,395, and for whal purpose, think, of Sir George Prevost were to fail, and Sir you? Why “ To be paid io couni Mun. George too poor to pay the debt? Wouldsler for " THE SERVICE OF HANOyou send out a writ against him to Canada ? 66 VER.” of this he still owes, £5,236.
-In short, this responsibility" of the But, the main thing here is, that this great, Colonel must, it is very clear, be merely sum was issued for the service of Hanover; nominal; and, it is equally clear, that the and, bear in mind, that it was issued from, public ought to have, for the money issued the public treasure, because, as the account for every corps, a good and real security. states, the balance is " due to the public."
-Whether " the Guardians of the pub- -Now, we see, then, that Hanover has " lic purse" will think as I do is another cost us this sam, and that very recently, matter, those Gentlemen and I being so too. Here is a sum equal to the nell duly very apt to differ in our opinions,
on starch for lwo years. - This sum is
not to be supposed to have gone to our army Mr. CuinneRY. -There is a paper in Hanover (if we bad any troops there al pecting the balance due to the public the time), nor to any part of our service;
for it is expressly stated to have been for evening, receive your reply to the present the service of Hanover, and to be paid to communication, and your determination of Count Munster, who is the Hanoverian Re-executing or relinquishing the demand men sident here. Another item is £41,117, tioned in your letter of the 16th instant.
to pay bills drawn from abroad, on ac- If that demand is still insisted upon, I have "count of His Royal Highness the Duke of only to observe to you, that a compliance “ Cumberland," from 1798 to 1802. I would be an immediate violation of the do not recollect where the Duke was at that laws of my Country, and an eternal stigma, time; but, I am sure I cannot discover how on the nation of which I am a citizen. A this money came to have any thing to do compliance, therefore, cannot be acceded with this enlightened “public,” unless the to.--I have the honour to be, &c. Duke was in some sort of public service at
JOSEPH HALSET, the time. If the money was issued to Governor of the State of Delaware." Chinnery on account of the Duke's pension aud allowances, or as the Colonel of a regi
(REPLY.) ment, then the balance not paid by Chin- His Brilannic Majesty's Ship Poictiers, nery, which is £886, would be due to the in the Mouth of the Delaware, March Duke; but is stated to be due to as the
23, 1813. " public;" so that it must have been the “Sir,--In reply to your letter received money of the public, and not his own pri- this day, by a flag of truce, in answer to vate money, that was issued to Chinnery to mine of the 16th inst, I have to observe, the amount of £41,117.- I should like that the demand I have made upon Lewis-, very much to see these matters explained. town is, in my opinion, neither ungenerous
-We are often reviled for cavilling at nor wanting in that magnanimity which , such trifles; but, if I were to take all the one nation ought to observe to another, sums that I think I can show to be expend with which it is at war. It is in my power ed unnecessarily, and set them against the to destroy your town, and the request I nett proceeds of different heads of taxes, I have made upon it, as the price of should make any thinking reader stare. curity, is neither distressing nor unusual. Great sums are made up of small sums; I must, therefore, persist; and whatever but, it is so on the one side as well as on sufferings may fall upon the inhabitants of the other.- However, perhaps, it is hard- Lewistown, must be attributed to your, ly worth while to plague one's self about selves by your not complying with a request the matter, when nou a few of those whom so easily acquiesced in.- I have the hoyou talk to about it are, perhaps, only nour to be, &c. thinking all the while how they shall get
J. P. BERES FORD, in for a share of what you wish to save.
Commodore, and commanding - The Civil List, however, must come
H. B. M. Squadron in the under my fingers. I cannot bring myself
FRENCH NAVAL WAR..
Paris, April 28.—Extract from the Reþorl of a Captain Baivit, Commander of
his Majesty's frigate the arelhusa, lo the AMERICAN WAR.
Minister of Marine.-On board the Are(Continued from page 768.) thusa, April 19, 1913. Magistrate of Lewis. The respect which Aster describing the destruction of a few generous and magnanimous nations, even vessels, the latter proceeds to give an acwhen they are enemies, take pride in che- count of his action with the British rishing towards each other, enjoins it upon frigate.- I commenced the firing by a me, as a duty I owe to the State over discharge of my whole broadside, which which I have the honour at this time to was immediately returned by the
enemy. preside, to the Government of which this A furious engagement then took place, in State is a member, and to the civilized which our vessels seemed to be joined by a world, to inquire of you whether, upon column of smoke. We had been foul of further and more mature reflection, you each other for several minutes, and during continue resolved to attempt the destruc- an hour and a half we had not been more
Meantion of this town? I shall, probably, this than a pistol shot off each other.