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urged on the Learned Judge who tried the case, and now meant to enforce on the Court for their consideration.

LORD ELLENBOROUGH asked, was the defendant in Court?

MR. BROUGHAM said, he was.-The offence charged against the defendant was a supposed libel in a publication, purporting to be a speech, or report of a speech, made by the defendant in the Commons House of Parliament, of which he was a Member. An indictment having been preferred against him for this offence, at the Quarter Sessions, the same was removed by CERTIORARI into this Court, and was afterwards sent down to be tried at the last Assizes for Lancaster. At the trial he had moved to have it put off, on account of the absence of a material witness, Mr. Bennet, a Member of the House of Commons, who was present when the speech supposed to contain libellous matter was read, and who would have proved that the publication in question contained the substance of that speech. He was saved the necessity of urging this point, however, his Learned Friend, Mr. Park, the Attorney-General for the Duchy of Lancaster, having agreed to admit that the publication contained a fair report of the substance of the speech made by the defendant in Parliament. This point being settled the trial proceeded, when Mr. Smith, Printer of the Liverpool Mercury, proved the publication, and that he had received it in a letter enclosed in an envelope from the defendant, desiring him to publish it, the publication in question being part of a speech which the defendant had delivered in the House of Commons, on the State of the Trade of Liverpool, and on the East India Company's Charter. On his crossexamination, this witness admitted, that, though he had lost the envelope, he recollected its contents ;-that the defendant then complained that he had seen mistatements of his speech in that and in other papers, and was anxious to give the enclosed as a more correct account of what he had actually said. This was all the evidence of any importance adduced on the trial; and, on its being closed, he, (Mr. Brougham) submitted to the Learned Judge, who tried the indictment, (Mr. Justice Le Blanc,) that enough had been proved to go to the Jury, inasmuch as it was not libellous matter: and, 2dly, whatever was the nature of the publication, that enough had been proved to shew that it was a justifiable publication The under the circumstances of the case. Learned Judge was of a contrary opinion,

relying on the case of the King v. Lord
Abingdon. He (Mr. Brougham), on the
other hand, relied on the case of the King
v. Wright, which occurred about three or
four years afterwards. That, the Learned
Judge observed, was an application for a
criminal information, and that a great dis-
tinction was held by the Court between cri-
minal informations and common indict-
ments, the former being granted only as an
extraordinary remedy. In answer to this,
he (Mr. Brougham) remarked, that the
ground stated by the Learned Judge was not
that on which the information in that case
had been refused, but, that it had been re-
fused on its merits, all their Lordships hav-
ing stated that there was no ground to send
the matter for trial, it not being an offence
punishable at all. It was not, they all
agreed, a matter of judicial inquiry, inas-
much as it was a true account of what hap-
pened in Parliament. The Learned Judge
then distinguished from a case like the pre-
sent, the cases of characters given of ser-
vants, on the ground, that there confidence
was reposed. He (Mr. Brougham) con-
tended that that distinction could not apply,
as that was only one of the modes or means,
and that there were others which equally
afforded a justification, in support of which
doctrine he referred to the case of Weather-
ston and Hawkins, First Term Reports,
where Lord Mansfield and Mr. Justice Bul-
ler laid it down that the occasion on which
words were used might amount to a justifi-
cation of these words; and that, to every
libel there might be a justification from the
occasion.

MR. JUSTICE BAILEY said, there the party was not a volunteer, but owed it to the public.

MR. BROUGHAM said, he put it on this principle that there was nothing in the occasion on which the speech was made which implied malice. He (Mr. Brougham), hist objections being over-ruled, then went to the Jury; and the Learned Judge, in summing up, repeated in substance, what he had already done, desiring the Jury first to be satisfied as to the fact of publication, and then to say if it was not a libel, or publication of a defamatory tendency. The Learned Judge, however, did not afterwards leave the manner of the publication entirely out of consideration. Jury, that though a Member of Parliament could not be called to account for what he spoke in the Houses of Parliament, yet, when the speech appeared in the Papers, it became a question whether it was mali

He informed the

cious or not. As to the point urged on behalf of the defendant, that he did not even know the party supposing himself aggrieved, that was of little consequence, the only fact for the consideration of the Jury was, if the publication was libellous. In his Lordship's opinion it was defamatory, and the law inferred malice from the mischievous tendency of the publication. The Jury accordingly found the Defendant Guilty.

MR. BROUGHAM, however, now contended, that this was a publication made in such circumstances as to prevent even the possibility of inferring malice. The defendant was a Member of Parliament, and as such not responsible for what he said in the House of which he was a Member. He was the representative, not of the body by whom he was sent into Parliament alone, but of the whole community: he not only owed it to them to account for his conduct in Parliament, but it was his incumbent duty so to do: and, if that duty could be rendered more incumbent, in any one instance than in another, it must be in this very instance which had occurred on the present occasion, namely, where his conduct in Parliament had been misrepresented; in which case it became his duty to justify himself, and to set his conduct right in the eyes of the community. He should proceed, however, in the first place, to consider the case of the King and Lord Abingdon, as the Learned Judge who tried the ease had made it the ground for over-ruling the preliminary objection taken on the trial. It appeared, in that case, that Lord Abingdon having employed Mr. Salmon as his attorney, took occasion in the course of introducing into Parliament a Bill to correct improper practices in Attorneys, to introduce a string of defamatory matter against Mr. Salmon; and that he afterwards had the same defamatory matter published at his own expense in different newspapers. When the case came to be tried his Lordship appeared in Court himself without any Counsel, the information having also been granted without opposition. Lord Kenyon in charging the Jury, in that case, observed, that a Member of Parliament had a right to make speeches in Parliament, without being subject to any control; yet, that he was not to make any such speech the vehicle of slander. In this doctrine he, (Mr. B.) perfectly agreed.

MR. JUSTICE BAILEY asked, then was he to understand that the present publication

was not libellous?

MR. BROUGHAM said, the speech had not been made the vehicle of slander.

MR. JUSTICE BAILEY observed, if it conveyed reflections against the character of the prosecutor it had been made the vehiclę of slander.

It

MR. BROUGHAM contended, it the defendant had an interest in publishing the paper in question, for other purposes, it could not be said to be the vehicle of slander against the prosecutor, though he was incidentally defamed in it, or his character attacked. If the defendant had published the speech in question for other purposes, or with other views, he was not liable for what might arise incidentally from the publication. Lord Kenyon also there laid it down that the mind must be in fault. Here there were no circumstances that went to infer malice. A few years after this case of Lord Abingdon's came the case of the King v. Wright. A Criminal Information was there moved for on the part of Mr. John Horne Tooke, against a Mr. Wright, a bookseller, for publishing a Report of a Committee of the House of Commons, attributing to Mr. Horne Tooke charges of a treasonable or seditious nature, after he had been tried and acquitted of high treason. The Rule was granted in the first instance, and was afterwards very fully argued. was not denied that the publication contained an accurate copy of the Report of the Committee of the House of Commons; and Lord Kenyon was there for discharging the Rule, on the ground that the publication was an accurate Report of what had passed in Parliament. The case would be found in Eighth Term Reports, p. 206; and Lord Kenyon was there made to lay it down that it would be impossible for the Court to admit that any proceeding in either of the two Houses of Parliament could be of a libellous nature. Mr. Justice Grose concurred generally in the same opinion; and Mr. Justice Lawrence referred to other cases, and entered into the matter more at large. He put the proceedings in Parlia ment, and in the Courts of Law on the same footing. He referred to the case of Currie and Walter, 1st. Bosanquet and Puller, p. 525, in which it was held that an accurate report of a proceeding at law was not a libel, but, on the contrary, was of advantage to the public, and to the ends of justice. Such, also, that Learned Judge conceived was the case with an accurate report of a proceeding in Parliament. Such publication was of advantage to the public, and even to the Legislative Bodies, and they would be deprived of that advantage if publications of their proceedings were to be prevented. The Learned Counsel, as

ceived, must have had in view the judicial character of the House, when he expressed himself as he did in the case of the King v. Wright. It was clearly pointed out in Coke, in his first Institute, where he says, "Parliament is the highest and most honourable and absolute Court of Justice in England."—" It is called Parliament because every Member of that Court should sincerely and discreetly purier la ment, for the general good of the Common Wealth;"

entertained by his Lordship on this subject, in the case of Burdett v. Abbott. It was on that ground that the House had the power of commitment. He begged here to be allowed to state, that there were 30 or 40 Resolutions of the House of Commons against strangers publishing de ates, and not one Resolution on that subject relating to Members, or in which they are censured for so doing. The case of Wright was exactly against those 30 or 40 Resolutions, the Reports which he was prosecute.! for publishing, have only been ordered to be printed for the use of the Members.

he had taken the liberty to do on the trial, must now again submit that it was impossible to distinguish the case now alluded to from the present. The one publication was justifiable because it had taken place in Parliament, and because it was accurate and true. For the same reasons, he submitted, so was the other. In these respects both publications were alike. What was the proceeding in Wright's case? It was an accurate publication of a Report of a Committee of the House of Commons. What And such must also have been the view was the present proceeding? It was a speech made by a Member of the House of Commons; in a House duly constituted; made by him in discharge of his Parliamentary duty; and to which the House were bound to listen. The act consisted in the Member's making the speech, and in the House listening to it. Here it did not happen to be either a Report or a Petition which was laid before the House, and which they might have disposed of as they thought proper; but it was a statement made by a Member in the course of observations made by him in discharge of his Parliamentary duty, he having an incon- LORD ELLENBOROUGH said, he undertestible right to make them. The House stood all Parliamentary papers were orderheard what he had to say. The pro-ed to be printed for the use of the Memceeding was final, and was determined, bers; none of them for the information of after the Member, in discharge of his duty, the community. had made the speech, and the House had listened to it. If the House had so inclined, they might have dealt even penally with him for making the speech. They might have called him to order; they might have stopped him; and, if that had not been enough, they might have committed him for having so spoken. In that "highest, most honourable and absolute Court of Justice," he might have been committed for exceeding his duty, as a Counsel might in this Court. As in the Court of Com. mon Pleas, in the case of Currie and Walter, and in this Court in the case of the King and Wright; so, in the House of Commons, if the Member had abused his privilege of speech, and made it a vehicle for abuse and slander, as in Lord Abingdon's case, it would, to use the language of Lord Ellenborough in the case of Bur-public advertisement having been inserted, dett v. Abbott, not be decent to suppose that the House would suffer its privileges to be abused with impunity. To argue that the House would suffer a man to be defamed in a speech to which they listened, without censure or disapprobation, would be to suppose that the House itself would become a party to such abuse. Mr. Justiee Lawrence, the Learned Counsel con

MR. BROUGHAM agreed that this was so; but Mr. Wright had not published the report in question for the accommodation of the Members, but of the Public. The question was, whether he was at all protected in publishing it; and on that question all those 30 or 40 resolutions against strangers might have been thrown in his teeth; but the decision went to this, that the contempt could only be taken cognizance of in Parliament, and punished there. He farther submitted, that there was here enough in the occasion of making the publication to justify it, and to have warranted the Learned Judge in sending it more strongly to the Jury, as rebutting and excluding the presumption of malice. The present was of the same description with the case of Delaney and Jones, where a

charging a person with suspicion of the crime of bigamy, it was held to be a justification that the defendant had an interest in making the inquiry. Here the publication was not made with a view to investigation, but still on an occasion equally capable of having good faith assigned as the cause of it, namely, that of explaining the defendant's conduct to his constituents.

LORD ELLENBOROUGH said, it would not bear an argument, that with a view to stand well with his constituents, a Member of Parliament might publish what he pleased. That was an innovation on the law of the land, which, he hoped, would never be tolerated.

MR. BROUGHAM said, that was not his argument, which only went to this, that a Member of the House of Commons might publish what he spoke in that House. Again referring to the case of the King and Wright, he submitted that the defendant was entitled to a new trial in this case.

ment.

LORD ELLENBOROUGH saw no foundation whatever for granting the present Rule. If any doubt had belonged to the case, his Lordship should have been of opinion that it ought to be fully discussed, in order to its being finally put to rest. But as there was nothing in the argument which had been addressed to them, except in the extravagant construction given to the opinion of Lord Kenyon, that that Court could not admit a proceeding in either House of Parliament to be a libel, he was of opinion that the Rule ought at once to be refused. The present, however, did not range itself under the head of a proceeding in ParliaBut if a Member chose to state in the House of Commons what he thought fit subject of debate, that is afterwards published, and he chuses, because he esteems it more or less correct, to re-publish it himself, and it is found to contain defamatory matter against individuals, is he to be authorized to do so, because he may have spoken it in the House of Commons? Because he has not met with reprobation in that House, has he a right to address the same improper and defamatory matter as an Oratio ad populum? Where was such a doctrine to be met with in our Law Books, or even in any Book of Theories on the subject of Libels? It was an accident, or rather a misfortune, of the present day, to have such a proposition started, and to have it bandied about in every news-paper. The case of Currie and Walter was not now before the Court. When such a case should arise, he should hesitate much before he went the full length of the doctrine laid down in it. As to the occasion of the present publication, whether it was libellous and malicious, those had been left to the Jury. To bring the present case within that of Lake and King, which related to the printing of a Petition before the House of Commons, it would be necessary to see the Order of the House, to Members to

print their speeches. There was not here the least colour for granting a new trial, and it would be wrong to excite doubts where none remained.

MR. JUSTICE GROSE was of the same opinion; he was not disposed to find fault with the direction of the Judge, or with what the Jury had done.

MR. JUSTICE BAILEY should have been happy to have the case further gone into, if there was any doubt on the subject, which he was decidedly of opinion there was not. A Member had a right to speak boldly and freely what he chose in the Houses of Parliament, without being subject to be called to account; but he was not entitled, out of his place in Parliament, more than any other man, to state what was injurious to any individual. Such was even laid down in the case of Lake and King, in which it was held to be justifiable only because it was a proceeding in Parliament. But it had never been pretended that it was in the course of Parliamentary proceeding for a Member to let himself down so low as to communicate his speech to a printer for publication. If he were misrepresented, he could set himself right in his place, but he could not be suffered himself to publish defamatory matter against any man. He could not agree that every thing that passed in that Court, if accurately stated, might be legally published. If, for instance, a prosecution for blasphemy were to be brought, would a publication of every thing which occurred in the course of such an investigation be tolerated, thereby giving greater publicity to what ought never to have seen the light? Or could every speech of Counsel, commenting upon the evidence of witnesses, which even the person making it would be sorry to see make a deep and lasting impression, be supposed to be a fit or justifiable subject for publication? He was of opinion they could not. The present, he was sa tisfied, was a case in which the occasion did not justify the publication.

MR. JUSTICE LE BLANG remained of the same mind he had been in on the trial.

MR. BROUGHAM observed, in answer to an observation of Lord Ellenborough's, that he had relied on the law as laid down by Mr. Justice Lawrence, in the case of the King and Wright, in which he referred to the case of Currie and Walter, rather than on the case of Currie and Walter itself.

The rule was refused.

Mr. Creevey was in Court himself during the whole of the proceedings, accompa

nied by Mr. Western, General Ferguson, and the Hon. Henry Grey Bennett.

OFFICIAL PAPERS.

AMERICAN STATES.
(Continued from page 704.)

rying it on, no principle of justice or honour, no usage of civilized nations, no precept of courtesy or humanity have been infringed. The war has been waged on our part, with scrupulous regard to all these obligations, and in a spirit of liberality which was never surpassed.- -How little has been the effect of this example on the conduct of the enemy. They have retained as prisoners of war citizens of the United States, not liable to be so considered under the usages of war.They have refused to consider as prisoners of war, and threatened to punish as traitors and deserters, persons emigrating without restraint to the United States; incorporated by naturalization into our political family, and fighting under the authority of their adopted country, in open and honourable war, for the maintenance of its rights and safety. Such is the avowed purpose of a government, which is in the practice of naturalizing, by thousands, citizens of other countries, and not only of permitting, but compelling them to fight its battles against their native country.- -They have not, it is true, taken into their own hands the hatchet and the knife, devoted to indiscriminate massacre; but they have let loose the savages armed with these cruel instruments; have allured them into their service, and carried them to battle by their sides, eager to glut their savage thirst with the blood of the vanquished, and to finish the work of torture and death on maimed and defenceless captives. And, what was never before seen, British Commanders have extorted victory over the unconquerable valour of our troops, by presenting to the sympathy of their chief awaiting massacre from their savage associates.And now we find them in further contempt of the modes of honourable warfare supplying the place of a conquering force, by attempts to disorganize our political society, to dismember our confederated Republic. Happily, like others, those will recoil on the authors: but they mark the degenerate councils from which they emanate: and if they did not belong to a

series of unexampled inconsistencies, might
excite the greater wonder, as proceeding
from a Government which founded the very
war in which it has been so long engaged,
on a charge against the disorganizing and
insurrectional policy of its adversary.-
To render the justice of the war on our
part the more conspicuous, the reluctance
to commence it was followed by the earliest
and strongest manifestations of a disposition
The sword was
to arrest its progress.
scarcely out of the scabbard before the
enemy was apprized of the reasonable terms
on which it would be re-sheathed. Still
more precise advances were repeated,
and have been received in a spirit for-
bidding every reliance not placed in the
military resources of the nation.
These resources are amply sufficient to
bring the war to an honourable issue. Our
nation is, in number, more than half that
of the British Isles. It is composed of a
brave, a free, a virtuous, and an intelligent
people. Our country abounds in the ne-
cessaries, the arts, and comforts of life. A
general prosperity is visible in the public
countenance. The means employed by the
British Cabinet to undermine it, have re-
coiled on themselves; have given to our
national faculties a more rapid develope-
ment; and, draining or diverting the pre-
cious metals from British circulation and
British vaults, have poured them into those
of the United States. It is a propitious
consideration, that an unavoidable war
should have found this seasonable facility
for the contributions required to support it.
When the public voice called for war, all
knew, and still know, that without them it
could not be carried on through the period
which it might last; and the patriotism,
the good sense, and the manly spirit of our
fellow-citizens, are pledges for the cheer-
fulness with which they will bear each his
share of the common burden. To render
the war short, and its success sure, ani-
mated and systematic exertions alone are
necessary; and the success of our arms
now, may long preserve our country from
the necessity of another resort to them.
Already have the gallant exploits of our
naval heroes proved to the world our inhe-
rent capacity to maintain our rights on one
element. If the reputation of our arms
has been thrown under clouds on the other,
presaging flashes of heroic enterprise assure
us, that nothing is wanting to correspon-
dent triumphs there also, but the discipline
and habits which are in daily progress."

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