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room alone. He was a person with whom the Princess appeared to have greater pleasure in taiking than with her Ladies. Her Royal Highness behaved to him ONLY as any woman would who likes flirting. She (Mrs. Lisle) would not have thought any married woman would have behaved properly, who behaved as Her Royal Highness did to Captain Manby. She can't say whether the Princess was attached to Captain Manby, only that it was a flirting conduct. She never saw any gallantries, as kissing her hand, or the like."- -I have cautiously stated the whole of Mrs. Lisle's evidence upon this part of the case; and I am sure your Majesty, in reading it, will not fail to keep the facts which Mrs. Lisle speaks to separate from the opinion or judgment which she forms upon them. I mean not to speak disrespectfully or slightingly of Mrs. Lisle's opinion, or express myself as in any degree indifferent to it. But whatever there was which she observed in my conduct that did not become a married woman, that "was ONLY like a woman who liked flirting,” and “ONLY a flirting conduct," I am convinced your Majesty must be satisfied that it must have been far distant from affording any evidence of crime, of vice, or of indecency, as it passed openly in the company of my Ladies, of whom Mrs. Lisle herself was one.--The facts she states are, that Captain Manby came very three or four times a week in the latter end of the year 1802; that he sat next to me at dinner; and that my conversation after dinner, in the evening, used to be with Captain Manby, separate from my Ladies. These are the facts: and is it upon them that my character, I will not say, is to be taken away, but is to be affected?Captain Manby had, in the autumn of the same year, been introduced to me by Lady Townshend, when I was upon a visit to her at Rainham. Í think he came there only the day before I left it. He was a naval officer, as I understood, and as I still believe, of great merit. What little expense, in the way of charity, I am able to afford, I am best pleased to dedicate to the education of the children of poor, but honest persons; and I most generally bring them up to the service of the navy. I had at that time two boys at school, whom I thought of an age fit to be put to sea. Í desired Lady Townshend to prevail upon Captain Manby to take them. He consented to it, and of course I was obliged to him.-About this time, or shortly afterwards, he was appointed to the Africaine, a ship which was fitting up at Deptford. To be near his ship, as I understood and believe, he took lodgings at Blackheath; and as to the mere fact of his being so frequently at my house-his intimacy and friendship with Lord and Lady Townshend, which of itself was assurance to me of his respectability and character-my pleasure in shewing my respect to them, by notice and attention to a friend of theirs-his undertaking the care of my charity boys-and his accidental residence at Blackheath, will, I should trust, not unreasonably account for it. I have a similar account likewise to give of paying for the linen furniture, with which his cabin was furnished. Wishing to make him some return for his trouble with the boys, I desired that I might choose the pattern of his furniture. I not only chose it, but had it sent to him, and paid the bill; finding, however, that it did not come to more than about twenty pounds, I thought it a shabby present, and therefore added some trifling present of plate. So I have frequently done,

ment and these observations, and in addition to them, I most solemnly assert to your Majesty, that Mr. Lawrence, neither at his own house, nor at mine, nor any where else, ever was for one moment, by night or by day, in the same room with me when the door of it was locked; that he never was in my company of an evening alone, except the momentary conversation which Mr. Lawrence speaks to may be thought an exception; and that nothing ever passed between him and me which all the world might not have witnessed. And, Sire, I have subjoined a deposition to the same effect from Mr. Lawrence. -To satisfy myself, therefore, and your Majesty, I have shewn, I trust, by unanswerable observations and arguments, that there is no colour for crediting Mr. Cole, or, consequently, any part of this charge, which rests solely on his evidence. But to satisfy the requisition of the Commissioners, I have brought my pride to submit (though not without great pain, I can assure your Majesty) to add the only contradictions which I conceive can be given, those of Mr. Lawrence and myself. The next person with whom these examinations charge my improper familiarity, and with regard to which the Report represents the evidence as particularly strong, is Captain Manby. With respect to him, Mr. Cole's examination is silent. But the evidence on which the Commissioners rely on this part of the case is Mr. Bid-frequently to my house; that he dined there good's, Miss Fanny Lloyd's, and Mrs. Lisle's. It respects my conduct at three different places; at Montague House, Southend, and at Ramsgate; I shall preserve the facts and my observations more distinct, if I consider the evidence, as applicable to these three places, separately and in its order; and I prefer this mode of treating it, as it will enable me to consider the evidence of Mrs. Lisle in the first place, and consequently put it out of the reach of the harsher observations which I may be under the necessity of making upon the testimony of the other two. For though Mrs. Lisle, indeed, speaks to having seen Captain Manby at East Cliff in August, 1803, to the best of her remembrance it was only once. She speaks to his mecting her at Deal in the same season; that he landed there with some boys whom I took on charity, and who were under his care; yet she speaks of nothing there that can require a single observation froni me. The material parts of her evidence respect her seeing him at Blackheath the Christmas before she had seen him at East Cliff. She says, it was the Christmas after Mr. Austin's child came, consequently the Christmas 1802-3. He used to come to dine there, she says-he always went away in her presence, and she had no reason to think he staid after the Ladies retired. He lodged on the heath at that time; his ship was fitting up at Deptford; he came to dinner three or four times a week, or more. She supposes he might be alone with the Princess, but that she was in the habit of seeing Gentlemen and tradesmen without her being present. She (Mrs. Lisle) has seen him at luncheon and dinner both. The boys (two boys) came with him two or three times, but not to dinner. Captain Manby always sat next the Princess at dinner. The constant company were Mrs. and Miss Fitzgerald and herself—all retired with the Princess, and sat in the same room. Captain Manby generally retired about eleven, and sat with us all till then. Captain Manby and the Princess used, when we were together, to be speaking together separately, conversing separately, but not in a

and I hope, without offence, may be permitted to do again, to any Captain on whom I impose such trouble. Sir Samuel Hood has now two of my charity boys with him; and I have presented him with a silver epergne. I should be ashamed to notice such things, but your Majesty perceives that they are made the subject of inquiry from Mrs. Fitzgerald and Mr. Stikeman, and I was desirous that they should not appear to be particular in the case of Captain Manby.

they are not both examined to these circum-
stances? But Miss Fitzgerald is not examined
at all; and Mrs. Fitzgerald, though examined,
and examined too with respect to Captain Man-
by, does not appear to have had a single question
put to her with respect to any thing which passed
concerning him at Montague House. May I not
therefore complain that the examination, leaving
the generality of Mrs. Lisle's expression unex-
plained by herself; and the scenes to which it
relates unexamined into, by calling the other
persons who were present, is leaving it precisely
in that state, which is better calculated to raise
a suspicion, than to ascertain the truth?--But
I am persuaded that the unfavourable impression
which is most likely to be made by Mrs. Lisle's
but by her opinion upon them. "I appeared,"
she says, " to like the conversation of Captain
Manby better than that of my ladies. I be-
haved to him only as a woman who likes flirting;
my conduct was unbecoming a married woman;
she cannot say whether I was attached to Cap-
tain Manby or not; it was only a flirting con-
duct."-Now, Sire, I must here again most
seriously complain that the Commissioners should
have called for, or received, and much more,
reported, in this manner, the opinion and judg-
ment of Mrs. Lisle upon my conduct. Your
Majesty's Warrant purports to authorize them to
collect the evidence, and not the opinion of
others; and to report it, with their own judg
ment surely, and not Mrs. Lisle's. Mrs. Lisle's
judgment was formed upon those facts which
she stated to the Commissioners, or upon other
facts. If upon those she stated, the Commis-
sioners, and your Majesty, are as well able to
form the judgment upon them as she was.
upon other facts, the Commissioners should have
heard what those other facts were, and upon
them have formed and reported their judgment.

If

But to return to Mrs. Lisle's examination. Mrs. Lisle says, that Captain Manby, when he dined with me, sat next to me at dinner. Before any inference is drawn from that fact, I am sure your Majesty will observe that, in the next line of Mrs. Lisle's examination, she says, "that the constant company was Mrs. and Miss Fitz-examination, is not by her evidence to the facts, gerald, and herself, Mrs. Lisle." The only gentleman, the only person of the whole party who was not of my own family, was Captain Manby; and his sitting next to me, under such circumstances, I should apprehend could not possibly afford any inference of any kind. In the evening we were never alone. The whole company sat together; nay, even as to his being with me alone of a morning, Mrs. Lisle seems to know nothing of the fact, but from a conjecture founded upon her knowledge of my known usual habit, with respect to seeing gentlemen who might call upon me. And the very foundation of her conjecture demonstrates that this circumstance can be no evidence of any thing particular with regard to Captain Manby.As to my conversing with Captain Manby separately, I do not understand Mrs. Lisle as meaning to speak to the state of the conversation uninterruptedly, during the whole of any of the several evenings when Captain Manby was with me; if I did so understand her, I should certainly most confidently assert, that she was not correct. That in the course of the evening, as the ladies were working, reading, or otherwise amusing themselves, the conversation was sometimes more and sometimes less general; and that they some times took more, sometimes less part in it; that frequently it was between Captain Manby and myself alone; and that, when we were all together, we two might frequently be the only persons not otherwise engaged, and therefore be justly said to be speaking together separately. Besides, Captain Manby has been round the world with Captain Vancouvre. I have looked over prints in books of voyages with him; he has explained them to me; the ladies may or may not have been looking over them at the same time; they may have been engaged with their own amusements. Here again, we may be said to have been conversing separately, and consequently that Mrs. Lisle, in this sense, is perfect ly justified in saying that "I used to converse separately with Captain Manby," I have not the least difficulty in admitting. But have I not again reason to complain that this expression of Mrs. Lisle's was not more sifted, but left in a manner calculated to raise an impression that this separate conversation was studiously sought for, was constant, uniform, and uninterrupted, though it by no means asserts any such thing? But whether I used always so to converse with him; or generally, or only sometimes, or for what proportion of the evening I used to be so engaged, is left unasked and unexplained. Have I not likewise just reason to complain, that though Mrs. Lisle states, that Mrs. Fitzgerald and Miss Fitzgerald were always of the party,

-I am aware, indeed, that if I were to argue that the facts which Mrs. Lisle states, afford the explanation of what she means by "only flirting conduct," and by "behaviour unbecoming a married woman," namely, that it consisted in having the same gentleman to dine with me three or four times a week;-letting him sit next me at dinner, when there were no other strangers in company;-conversing with him separately, and appearing to prefer bis conversation to that of the ladies,-it would be observed probably, that this was not all; that there was always a certain indescribable something in manner, which gave the character to conduct, and must have entered mainly into such a judgment as Mrs. Lisle has here pronounced.To a certain extent I should be obliged to agree to this; but if I am to have any prejudice from this observatiou; if it is to give a weight and authority to Mrs. Lisle's judgment, let me have the advantage of it also. If it justifies the couclusion that Mrs. Lisle's censure upon my conduct is right, it requires also that equal credit should be given to the qualification, the limit, and the restriction which she herself puts upon that censure.- -Mrs. Lisle, seeing all the facts which she relates, and observing much of manner, which perhaps she could not describe, limits the expression “flirting conduct” by calling it "only flirting," and says (upon having the question asked to her, no doubt, whether from the whole she could collect that I was attached to Captain Manby) says 66 she could not say whether I was attached to him, my conduct was

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not of a nature that proved any attachment to had been prosecuted before your Majesty's him, it was only a flirting conduct." Unjust | Privy Council, the more solemn and usual course therefore, as I think it, that any such question of proceeding there would, as I am informed, should have been put to Mrs. Lisle, or that her have furnished, or enabled me to furnish, your judgment should have been taken at all; yet Majesty with the questions as well as the answers. what I fear from it, as pressing with peculiar Mrs. Lisle, it should also be observed, was at hardship upon me, is, that though it is Mrs. the time of her examination, under the severe opLisle's final and ultimate judgment upon the pression of having, but a few days before, heard whole of my conduct, yet, when delivered to of the death of her daughter;-a daughter, who the Commissioners and your Majesty, it be- had been happily married, and who had lived comes evidence, which, connected with all the happily with her husband, in mutual attachment facts on which Mrs. Lisle had formed it, may till her death. The very circumstance of her lead to still further and more unfavourable con- then situation would naturally give a graver and clusions, in the minds of those who are after- severer cast to her opinions. When the queswards to judge upon it; that her judgment will tion was proposed to her, as a general question, be the foundation of other judgments against (and I presume it must have been so put to her) me, much severer than her own; and that whether my conduct was such as would become a though she evidently limits her opinion, and by married woman, possibly her own daughter's consaying ONLY flirting” impliedly negatives it as duct andwhat shewould have expectedof her,might affording any indication of any thing more im- present itself to her mind. And I confidently proper, while she proceeds expressly to negative submit to your Majesty's better judgment, that such it as affording any proof of attachment; yet it a general question ought not, in a fair and candid may be thought by others, to justify their con- consideration of my case, to have been put to sidering it as a species of conduct, which shewed Mrs. Lisle, or any other woman. For, as to my an attachment to the man to whom it was ad- conduct being, or not being, becoming a mardressed; which in a married woman was crimi- ried woman; the same conduct, or any thing nal and wrong.What Mrs. Lisle exactly like it, which may occur in my case, could not means by only flirting conduct—what degree of occur in the case of a married woman, who was impropriety of conduct she would describe by not living in my unfortunate situation; or, if it it, it is extremely difficult, with any precision, did occur, it must occur under circumstances to ascertain. How many women are there, most which must give it, and most deservedly, virtuous, most truly modest, incapable of any a very different character. A married woman, thing impure, vicious, or immoral, in deed or living well and happily with her husband,could not thought, who, from greater vivacity of spirits, be frequently having one gentleman at her table, from less natural reserve, from that want of with no other company but ladies of her family, caution, which the very consciousness of inno--she could not be spending her evenings frecence betrays them into, conduct themselves in a manner, which a woman of a graver character, of more reserved disposition, but not with one particle of superior virtue, thinks too incautious, too unreserved, too familiar; and which, if forced upon her oath to give her opinion upon it, she might feel herself, as an honest woman, bound to say in that opinion, was flirting?— But whatever sense Mrs. Lisle annexes to the word flirting" it is evident, as I said before, that she cannot mean any thing criminal, vicious, or indecent, or any thing with the least shade of deeper impropriety than what is necessarily expressed in the word "flirting." She never would have added, as she does in both instances, that it was ONLY flirting; if she had thought it of a quality to be recorded in a formal Report, amongst circumstances which must occasion the most unfavourable interpretations, and which deserved the most serious consideration of your Majesty. To use it so, I am sure your Majesty must see is to press it far beyond the meaning which she would assign to it herself.---And as I have admitted that there may be much iudescribable in the manner of doing any thing, so it must be admitted to me that there is much indescribable, and most material also in the manner of saying any thing, and in the accent with which it is said. The whole context serves much to explain it; and if it is in answer to a question, the words of that question, the manDer and the accent in which it is asked, are also most material to understand the precise meaning, which the expressions are intended to convey; and I must lament therefore extremely, if my character is to be affected by the opinion of any witness, that the question by which that opinion was drawn from her, were not given too, as well as her auswers, and if this inquiry

quently in the same society, and separately conversing with that gentleman, unless either with the privity and consent of her husband; or by taking advantage, with some management of his ignorance and his absence ;-if it was with his privity and consent, that very circumstance alone would unquestionably alter the character of such conduct,-if with management she avoided his knowledge, that very management would betray a bad motive. The cases therefore are not parallel; the illustration is not just; and the question, which called for such an answer from Mrs. Lisle, ought not, in candour and fairness, to have been put.--I entreat your Majesty, however, not to misunderstand me; I should be ashamed indeed to be suspected of pleading any peculiar or unfortunate circumstance in my situation, as an excuse for any criminal or indecent act. With respect to such acts, most unquestionably such circumstances can make no difference; and afford no excuse. They must bear their own character of disgrace and infamy, under all circumstances. But there are acts, which are unbecoming a married woman, which ought to be avoidedbyher,trom an apprehension lest they should render her husband uneasy, not because they might give him any reason to distrust her chastity, her virtue or her morals, but because they might wound his feelings, by indicating a preference to the society of another man, over his, in a case, where she had the option of both. But surely, as to such acts, they must necessarily bear a very different character, and receive a very different construction, in a case, where, unhappily, there can be no such apprehension, and where there is no such option. I must there: fore be excused for dwelling so much upon this part of the case; and I am sure your Majesty will feel me warranted in saying, what I say with

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a confidence, exactly proportioned to the respec- | ren, or to his wife, or to any other relative? tability of Mrs. Lisle's character, that, whatever How would it be endured, in general, and I she meant, by any of these expressions, she trust, that my case ought not, in this respect, to could not, by possibility, have meant to describe form an exception, that one woman should in a conduct, which to her mind afforded evidence of similar manner be placed in judgment, upon the crime, vice, or indecency. If she had, her re- conduct of another? And that judgment be regard to her own character, her own delicacy, ported, where her character was of most importher own honourable and virtuous feelings, would ance to her, as amongst things which must be in less than the two years, which have since credited till decidedly contradicted? Let every elapsed, have found some excuse for separating one put these questions home to their own herself from that intimate connexion, which, by breasts, and before they impute blame to me, her situation in my household, subsists between for protesting against the fairness and justice of us. She would not have remained exposed to this procedure, ask how they would feel upon it, the repetition of so gross an offence, and insult, if it were their own case?-But perhaps they to a modest, virtuous, and delicate woman, as cannot bring their imaginations to conceive that that of being made, night by night, witness to it could ever become their own case. scenes, openly acted in her presence, offensive months ago I could not have believed that it to virtue and decorum.If your Majesty thinks would have been mine.—But the just ground I have dwelt too long and tediously on this part of my complaint may perhaps be more easily of the case, I entreat your Majesty to think what appreciated and felt, by supposing a more famiI must feel upon it. I feel it a great hardship, liar, but au analogous case. The High Treason, as I have frequently stated, that under the cover with which I was charged, was supposed to be of a grave charge of High Treason, the proprie- committed in the foul crime of adultery. What ties, and decencies, of my private conduct and would be the impression of your Majesty, what behaviour, have been made the subject, as I be- would be the impression upon the mind of any lieve so unprecedently, of a formal investigation one, acquainted with the excellent laws of your upon oath. And that, in consequence of it, I Majesty's kingdom, and the admirable adminismay, at this moment, be exposed to the danger tration of them, if upon a Commission of this of forfeiting your Majesty's good opinion, and kind, secretly to inquire into the conduct of avy being degraded and disgraced in reputation man, upon a charge of High Treason, against through the country, because what Mrs. the state, the Commissioners should not only Lisle has said of my conduct,-that it was proceed to inquire, whether in the judgment of "only that of a woman who liked flirting," has the witness, the conduct of the accused was such become recorded in the Report on this formal as became a loyal subject; but, when the result inquiry, made into matters of grave crimes, and of their Inquiry obliged them to report directly of essential importance to the state. Let against the charge of Treason, they, nevertheme conjure your Majesty, over and over again, less, should record an imputation, or libel, against before you suffer this circumstance to prejudice his character for loyalty, and reporting, as a part me in your opiniou, not only to weigh all the of the evidence, the opinion of the witness, that circumstances I have stated, but to look round the conduct of the accused was such as did not bethe first ranks of female virtue in this country, come a loyal subject, should further report, that and see how many women there are of most un- the evidence of that witness, without specifying impeached reputation, of most unsullied and un- any part of it, must be credited till decidedly suspected honour, character and virtue, whose contradicted, and deserved the most serious conconduct, though living happily with their hus- sideration? How could he appeal from that bands, if submitted to the judgment of persons of report? How could he decidedly contradict a severer cast of mind, especially if saddened, at the opinion of the witness! Sire, there is no the moment, by calamity, might be styled to difference between this supposed case and mine, be "flirting." I would not, however, be un- but this. That in the case of the man, a characderstood as intending to represent Mrs. Lisle's ter for loyalty, however injured, could not be judgment, as being likely to be marked with any destroyed by such an insinuation. His future improper austerity, and therefore I am certain life might give him abundant opportunities of falshe must either have had no idea that the expressifying the justice of it. But a female character, sions she has used, in the manner which she used them, were capable of being understood, in so serious a light as to be referred to, amongst circumstances deserving the most serious consideration, and which must occasion most unfavourable interpretations; or she must by the imposing novelty of her situation, in private examination before four such grave characters, have been surprised into the use of expressions, which, with a better opportunity of weighing them, she would either not have used at all, or have accompanied with still more of qualification than that, which she has, however, in some degree, as it is, annexed to them.

But my great complaint is the having, not, particularly, Mrs. Lisle's opinion, but any person's opinion, set up, as it were, in judgment against the propriety of my private conduct. How would it be endured, that the judgment of one man should be asked, and recorded in a solemn Report, against the conduct of another, either with respect to his behaviour to his child

once so blasted, what hope or chance has it of recovery? Your Majesty will not fail to perceive, that I have pressed this part of the case, with an earnestness which shews that I have felt it. I have no wish to disguise from your Majesty, that I have felt it, and felt it strongly. It is the only part of the case, which I conceive to be in the least degree against me, that rests upon a witness who is at all worthy of your Majesty's credit. How unfair it is, that any thing she has said should be pressed against me, I trust I have sufficiently shewn. In canvassing, however, Mrs. Lisle's evidence, I hope I have never forgot what was due to Mrs. Lisle. I have been as anxious not to do her injustice, as to do justice to myself. I retain the same respect and regard for Mrs. Lisle now, as I ever had. If the unfavourable impressions, which the Commissiouers seem to suppose, fairly arise out of the expressious she has used, I am confident they will be understood, in a sense, which was never intended by her. And I should scorn to purchase any

but as a party accused, had not a right to be thought, and to be presumed innocent, till I was proved to be guilty? Let me ask, if there ever could exist a case, in which the credit of the witness ought to have been more severely sifted and tried? The fact rested solely upon his single assertion. However false, it could not possibly receive contradiction, but from the parties. The story itself surely is not very probable. My character cannot be considered as under inquiry; it is already gone, and decided upon, by those, if there are any such, who think such a story probable.-That in a room, with the door open, and a servant known to be waiting just by, we should have acted such a scene of gross indecency. The indiscretion at least might have rendered it improbable, even to those, to conceive nothing improbable in the indecency of it. Yet this seems to have been received as a fact that there was no reason to question: The witness is assumed, without hesitation, to be the witness of truth, of unquestionable vera city. Not the faintest trace is there to be found of a single question put to him, to try and sift the credit which was due to him, or to his story.

advantage to myself, at the expense of the slightest imputation, unjustly cast upon Mrs. Lisle, or any one else.- Leaving therefore, with these observations, Mrs. Lisle's evidence, I must proceed to the evidence of Mr. Bidgood. The parts of it which apply to this part of the case, I mean my conduct to Captain Manby at Montague House, I shall detail. They are as follows. "I first observed Captain Manby came to Montague House either the end of 1803, or the beginning of 1804. I was waiting one day in the anti-room; Captain Manby had his hat in his hand, and appeared to be going away: he was a long time with the Princess, and, as I stood on the steps waiting, I looked into the room in which they were, and in the reflection on the looking-glass I saw them salute each other. I mean that they kissed each other's lips. Cap-whose prejudices against me, might be prepared tain Manby then went away. I then observed the Princess have her handkerchief in her hands, and wipe her eyes, as if she was crying, and went into the drawing room." In his second deposition, on the 3d July, talking of his suspicions of what passed at Southend, he says, "they arose from seeing them kiss each other, as I mentioned before, like people fond of each other; a very close kiss."- -In these extracts from his depositions, there can undoubtedly be no complaint of any thing being left to inference. Here is a fact, which must unquestionably occasion almost as unfavourable interpretations, as any fact of the greatest impropriety and indecorum, short of the proof of actual crime. And this fact is positively and affirmatively sworn to. And if this witness is truly represented, as one who must be credited till he is decidedly contradicted; and the decided contradiction of the parties accused, should be considered us unavailing, it constitutes a charge which cannot possibly be answered. For the scene is so laid, that there is no eye to witness it, but his own: and therefore there can be no one who can possibly contradict | him, however false his story may be, but the persons whom he accused. As for me, Sire, there is no mode, the most solemn that can be devised, in which I shall not be anxious and happy to contradict it. And I do here most solemnly, in the face of Heaven, most directly and positively affirm, that it is as foul, malicious, and wicked a falsehood, as ever was invented by the malice of man. Captain Manby, to whom I have been under the necessity of applying, for that purpose, in the deposition which I annex, most expressly and positively denies it also. Beyond these our two denials, there is nothing which can by possibility be directly opposed to Mr. Bidgood's evidence.—All that remains to be done is to examine Mr. Bidgood's credit, and to see how far he deserves the character which the Commissioners give to him.-How unfoundedly they gave such a character to Mr. Cole, your Majesty, I am satisfied, must be fully convinced.I suppose there must be some mistake, I will not call it by any harsher name, for I think it can be no more than a mistake, in Mr. Bidgood's saying, that the first time he knew Captain Manby come to Montague House, was at the end of 1803, or beginning of 1804; for he first came at the end of the former year; and the fact is, that Mr. Bidgood must have seen him then.-But, however, the date is comparatively immaterial, the fact it is, that is important.And here, Sire, surely I have the same complaint which I have so often urged. I would ask your Majesty, whether I, not as a Princess of Wales,

Is he asked, as I suggested before should have been done with regard to Mr. Cole-To whom he told this fact before? When he told it? What was ever done in consequence of this information? If he never told it, till for the purpose of supporting Lady Douglas's statement, how could he in his situation as an old servant of the Prince, with whom, as he swears, he had lived twenty-three years, creditably to himself, account for having concealed it so long? And how came Lady Douglas and Sir John to find out that he knew it, if he never had communicated it before? If he had communicated it, it would then have been useful to have heard how far his present story was consistent with his former; and if it should have happened that this and other matters, which he may have stated, were, at that time, made the subject of any inquiry ; then how far that inquiry had tended to confirm or shake his credit. His first examination was, it is true, taken by Lord Grenville, and Lord Spencer alone, without the aid of the experience of the Lord Chancellor and Lord Chief Justice; this undoubtedly may account for the omission: but the noble Lords will forgive me if I say it does not excuse it, especially as Mr. Bidgood was examined again on the 3d of July, by all the Commissioners, and this fact is again referred to then as the foundation of the suspicion which he afterwards entertained of Captain Manby at Southend. Nay, that last deposition affords on my part, another ground of similar complaint of the strongest kind. It opens thus: "The Prin "cess used to go out in her phaeton with coach"man and helper towards Long Reach, eight or "ten times, carrying luncheon and wine with "her, when Captain Manby's ship was at Long "Reach, always Mrs. Fitzgerald with her.-She "would go out at one, and return about five or -The date "six; sometimes sooner or later."when Captain Manby's ship was lying at Long Reach, is not given; and therefore whether this was before, or after, the scene of the supposed salute, does not appear. But for what was this statement of Mr. Bidgood's made? Why was it introduced? Why were these drives towards Long Reach with luncheon, connected with Captain Manby's ship lying there at the time, examined to by the Commissioners? The first

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