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a singular turn. If ever any discussion in that House had been maintained on the principles of party, or rather of faction (witli the exception of the Secretary of State', it was the present: at the same time there was a total want of capacity in reference to the subject, which was treated in a manner that deserved no better name than mere ri. baldry. He had been used formerly to debates foinething like this: and if he had any ambition for office, he should be inclined to construe it into a favourable omen, as he always observed that when Ministers had appeared in danger of losing their places, their abuse of him was increased proportionably, and every old topic, every supposed political fin of his was called up to their assistance. So to night, there was the peace, and the coalition, and he expected to hear of the Middlesex election. But when the Gentleman touched on the coalition, a subject of so many years old, he would recommend him to go to the present President of the Council, or to a noble Lord, now a Poftmafier General, fupposed to have been active in that coalition, and alk them about the circunstances of it. The learned Gentle.. man liad amused himself with general declamation against all coalitions, whenever they did not fuit his own purposes or those of his friends : but why, when certain Gentlemen unfortunately differed from him in the last war, and the Duke of Portland and others, one noble Person particularly (Lord Fitzwilliam) joined the late Administration; why did not that coalition appear enormous in the eyes of the learned Gentleman? Where was his indignation then? Were they not as deep in guilt as himself? He would refer to his own language on the occasion of his first coalition; he would refer to his language on the occafion of his separation from his former friends, since that event, for the record of his fentiments. Of that last event, had he never spoken but as one he lamented for an unfortunate, though honourable difference of op'nion on an important fubje&. But it seemed that no argument must be allowed that tended to disturb Administration. He had been accused of admiring French principles : he believed, that in the joy he expressed at the downfall of the old French government, he was joined by most persons, nay, perhaps, by Government itself; but was he, on that account, to be made a party to all the horrors afterwards committed? But he could see the dilappointment of the learned Gentleman, who had come down to the House, prepared with a very furious speech against him, and had begun by attacking the right hon. Gentleman


on the bench below him very sharply; then had assailed him most vinlently, and last of all, had made a moderate and gentle-thruit at the right hon. Gentleman under the gallery. All the terrors had been originally intended for himfelf, but being disappointed in bis not making an attack on the right hon. Gentleman under the gallery, the learned Member had abused him, for being so unmanly as not to attack Mr. Pitt !-He thinks the right hon. Gentleman below, not very likely to come into place and power; he thinks I have no chance at all, and therefore he may abuse me ; but lie thinks the right hon, Gentleman behind has a good prospect in case of a change, and he tells bim that he thinks him the person the most satisfactory to the public for thie management of public affairs, and so he says his colleagues think! He therefore turns round and inakes his bow to that right hon. Gentleman. When he speaks of colleagues, I suppose, from this fpecimen of his prudence, that he means bith his present and his future ones.-In answer to the question put, “Who is to succeed the present Ministers?" he observed, that he did not oppose the royal preroa gative, but maintained the dignity of Parliament. He was, for turning out the present Ministry, which was formed on a wrong principle. He thought them a curse to the country. If they were not succeeded by men who did better, he should oppose them 100.--Now, as to this word coalition, the Gentleman knows as much of the maiter as I do. I should, however, suppose, there was nothing so monstrous in persons who have differed very widely on topics now no more, not poffesling rancorous dispositions, and having held formerly sentiments of private regard, and been in habits of intimacy, uniting in their sentiments on any particular measures. I know nothing of this coalition, as it is called, that might not be proclaimed at Charing Cross.--"Oh! but," says the learned Gentleman, “ you'll differ and quarrel about peace!" Whar right has he to resort to this mode of argue ment to support him and his faction in power? Is the argum ment of Gentlemen against Ministers any rule for their conduct as to war and peace? “Ob! but,” says he again, “you differed about the treaty of Amiens !" Truly, Sir, we did differ; and if that creaty had tended to Tecure us the peace held out by it, I thould have praised it, as the learned Gentleman has done. I fay, the foundation of the agreement is, that the country is in danger. Those who thought with me, in the late war, never conceived the country in fuch


danger as it is at present. But they who oppose Ministers may


eager to defend the country. So it was in the Ame. rican war. The hon. Gentleman concluded by saying, that he asked for no votes but froin those who thought something more should be done for detending the country. The House then divided : Ayes

204 Noes


Majority for Ministers

52 Adjourned at four o'clock in the morning.

Lis of the above Minority. Anson, Thomas

Canning, right hon. George Antonie, W. Lee

Cartwright, W. R. Adair, Robert

Cooper, J. E. Adams, W.

Caulfield, hon. H. Aubrey, Sir John

Craufurd, Col. Bailey, George

Chapman, C: Bankes, Henry

Codrington, C. Binning, Lord

Calcraft, John Bertie, General

Cavendish, Lord G. Barclay, George

Cavendith, W. Barham, J. Foster

Carbery, Lord Bruce, P.C.

Coke, Thomas W. Bootle, E. W.

Coke, Edward Barne, Snowdon

Combe, H.C. Brandling, C. J.

Dalrymple, Sir H. Beach, M. Hicks

Dickenson, W. sen, Brodie, J.

Dickenson, W.jun, Brooke, Lord

Dupré, J. Byng, George

Dundas, hon. R. Burdert, Sir F.

Dundas, right hon. W, Blaquiere, Lord De

Dundas, c. Bouverie, hon. E.

Dundas, L. Bradshaw, R. H.

Dundas, G. Bligh, Thomas

Dundas, Philip Berkeley, Admiral

Dent, John Burroughs, Wm.

Dillon, hon. H. A. Barclay, Sir Robert

Durand, J.H. Bourne, Sturges

Elford, Sir Wm. Cooke, Bryan

Ellis, C.R. Creevev, Thomas

Euston, Earl of Courtenay, John

Eliot, hon. W. VOL. II. 1803-4.

Elioty Eliot, W.

Long, sighthon C. Everett, T.

Latouche, P. Ferguson, James

Latouche, J. Fiizharris, Lord

Lovaine, Lord Foster, John

Lowther, Col. Fuller, John

Lowther, J. Fox, hon C. T.

Langton, Gore Foljambe, F. F.

Laurence, Dr. Francis, Philip

Lawley, Sir R. Fitzpatrick, General

Lamb, T D. Fitzhugh, Wm.

Lambton, R. John Folkestone, Viscount Ladbroke, R. Foley, Andrew

Leland General Graham, Col.

Milbank, Sir R. Graham, James

Mostyn, Sir T. Geary, Sir W.

Marsham, Visconut Gregor, Francis

Mildmay, Sir H. Gunning, G. W.

Morpeth, Lord Garland, G.

Madocks, W. A. Gower, Lord G. L.

Milner, Sir W. Grenville, right hon. T. Morland, W. Grenfell, P.

Mackenzie, Gen. A. Hammet, John

Manners, John Hill, Wm.

Morris, Edward Hamilton, Lord A.

Montgomery, J. Henderson, A.

Moore, Peter Hippilley, Sir John C. Moore, G. P. Holland, H.

Newport, Sir John Hardman, E.

North, Dudley Harrison, John

Northey, Wm. Hulkes, J.

Osborne, Lord F. Hope, Alex.

Ofborne, John Hutchinson, hon C.

OfTulfton, Lord Hughes, W.L.

Ord, William Jeffery, J.

Pelham, hon. C. Jolliffe, Hylton

Popham, Sir Home Jekyll, Joseph

Poyntz, W.s. Johnstone, George

Peel, Sir R. Johnes, T.

Penn, J. Kinnaird, hon. C.

Petiy, Lord H. Kensington, Lord

Peirse, Henry Kirkwall, Viscount

Pitt, right hop. W. Leigh, R. H.

Porchester, Lord Lenox, Charles

Preston, Sir R.

Phipps, Phipps, J. G.

Smith, Asheton Plumer, Wm.

Somerset, Lord E. Pytches, John

Sianiforth, Johor Ram, A.

Stanlev, Lord Ryder, bon. R.

Siuar', Lord W., Rufell, Lord William Thornton, S. Raine,

Thornton, Robert Rooke, General

Turner, E. Rose, ight hon. G,

Thelluflon, I. P. Rose, George H.

Tarleton, General Rutherford, G.

Townshend, Lord J. Scott, Claude

Villiers, hon J. C. Scott, s

Ward, Robert Scoti, Joseph

Ward, hun. J. W. Sinclair, Sir John

Wilberforce. Wm. Sloane, H.

White, M. Sheridan, R. B.

Walpole, hon. G. Sneyd, N.

Windham, right hon. W. Shakespeare, Arthur Wynne, Sir W.W. Smith, Samuel

Wynne, C. W. Smith, C.

Wrottesley, Sir J. Smith, John

Wigram, R. fcudamore, John

Western, C. C. Smith, William

Wharton, John Spencer, Lord R.

Winnington, Sir E. St. John, hon. St. A.

Wood, George
Stanhope, s.

Young, Sir Wm.
Lord Temple, } Tellers.




TUESDAY, APRIL 24. The Marquis of Stafford moyed, that his notice of a motion relating to the defence of the country, which stood for Friday, thould be discharged, and that the same should be postponed to Monday, tor which day he moved that the Lords Thould be summoned. Ordered.


Lord Hawkesbury moved, that the Irish militia transfer bill be read a third time. The Lord Chancellor stated the opinions which he had given 4 H 2


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