Bun. I told him, that those that was to be understood literally we understood them so; but for those that was to be understood otherwise, we endeavoured so to understand them.

Fost. He said, which of the Scriptures do you understand literally?

Bun. I said, this, He that believes shall be saved. This was to be understood, just as it is spoken; that whosoever believeth in Christ, shall, according to the plain and simple words of the text, be saved.

Fost. He said, that I was ignorant, and did not understand the Scriptures; for how (said he) can you understand them, when you know not the original Greek? &c.

Bun. To whom I said, that if that was his opinion, that none could understand the Scriptures, but those that had the original Greek, &c. then but a very few of the poorest sort should be saved, (this is harsh) yet the Scripture saith, That God bides his things from the wise and prudent, (that is from the learned of the world) and reveals them to babes and sucklings.

Fost. He said there was none that heard me, but a company of foolish people.

Bun. I told him that there was the wise as well as the foolish that do hear me; and again, those that are most commonly counted foolish by the world, are the wisest before God. Also, that God had rejected the wise, and mighty, and noble, and chosen the foolish, and the base.

Fost. He told me, that I made people neglect their calling; and that God had commanded people to work six days, and serve him on the seventh.

Bun. I told him, that it was the duty of people, (both rich and poor) to look out for their souls on them days, as well as for their bodies: And that God would have his people exhort one another daily, while it is called to day.

Fost. He said again, that there was none but a company of poor simple ignorant people that come to hear me.

Bun. I told him, that the foolish and the ignorant had most need of teaching and information; and therefore it would be profitable for me to go on in that work.

Fost. Well, said he, to conclude, but will you promise that you will not call the people together any more? and then you may be released, and go home.

Bun. I told him, that I durst say no more than I had said. For I durst not leave off that work which God had called me to.

So he withdrew from me, and then came several of the justices servants to me, and told me, that I stood so much upon a niceity. Their master, they said, was willing to let me go; and if I would but say I would call the people no more together, I might have my liberty, &c.

Bun. I told them, there was more ways than one, in which a man might be said to call the people together. As for instance, if a man get upon the market-place, and there read a book, or the like, though he do not say to the people, Sirs, come hither and hear; yet if they come to him because he reads, he, by his very reading, may be said to call them together; because they would not have been there to hear, if he had not been there to read. And seeing this might be termed a calling the people together, I durst not say, I would not call them together; for then, by the same argument, my preaching might be said to call them together.

Wing. and Fost. Then came the Justice and Mr. Foster to me again (we had a little more discourse about preaching, but because the method of it is out of my mind, I pass it) and when they saw that I was at a point, and would not be moved nor perswaded,

Mr. Foster told the justice, that then he must send me away to prison. And that he would do well also, if he would present all them that was the cause of my coming among them to meetings. Thus we parted.

And verily as I was going forth of the doors, I had much ado to forbear saying to them, that I carried the peace of God along with me: But I held my peace, and blessed be the Lord, went away to prison with God's comfort in my poor soul.

After I had lain in the jail five or six days, the brethren sought means again to get me out by bondsmen, (for so run my mittimus, that I should lie there till I could find sureties) they went to a justice at Elstow, one Mr. Crumpton, to desire him to take bond for my appearing at the quarter-sessions. At the first he told them he would, but afterwards he made a demur at the business, and desired first to see my mittimus, which run to this purpose; That I went about to several conventicles in this county, to the great disparagement of the

government of the church of England, &c. When he had seen it, he said that there might be something more against me, than was expressed in my mittimus: And that he was but a young man, therefore he durst not do it. This my jailor told me. Whereat I was not at all daunted, but rather glad, and saw evidently that the Lord had heard me, for before I went down to the justice, I begged of God, that if I might do more good by being at liberty than in prison, that then I might be set at liberty: But if not, his will be done; for I was not altogether without hopes, but that my imprisonment might be an awakening to the Saints in the country, therefore I could not tell well which to chuse. Only I in that manner did commit the thing to God. And verily at my return, I did meet my God sweetly in the prison again, comforting of me and satisfying of me that it was his will and mind that I should be there.

When I came back again to prison, as I was musing at the slender answer of the Justice, this word dropt in upon my heart with some life, For he knew that for envy they had delivered him.

Thus have I in short, declared the manner, and occasion of my being in prison; where I lie waiting the good will of God, to do with me, as he pleaseth; knowing that not one hair of my head can fall to the ground without the will of my Father which is in Heaven. Let the rage and malice of men be never so great, they can do no more, nor go no farther than God permits them: But when they have done their worst, we know all things shall work together for good to them that love God.

Farewell.

Here is the Sum of my Examination, before Justice Keelin, Justice Chester, Justice Blundale, Justice Beecher, and Justice Snagg, &c.

AFTER

FTER I had lain in prison above seven weeks, the quartersessions was to be kept in Bedford, for the county thereof; unto which I was to be brought; and when my jailor had set me before those Justices, there was a bill of indictment preferred against me. The extent thereof was as followeth; That John Bunyan of the town of Bedford, labourer, being a person of such and such conditions, he hath (since such a time) devilishly and perniciously abstained from coming to church to hear divine service, and is a common upholder of several unlawful meetings and conventicles, to the great disturbance and distraction of the good subjects of this kingdom, contrary to the laws of our sovereign lord the king, &c.

The Clerk. When this was read, the clerk of the sessions said unto me; What say you to this?

Bun. I said, that as to the first part of it, I was a common frequenter of the church of God. And was also, by grace, a member with them people, over whom Christ is the Head.

Keelin. But saith Justice Keelin (who was the judge in that court) Do you come to church (you know what I mean) to the parish church, to hear divine service?

Bun. I answered, no, I did not.

Keel.

He asked me why?

Bun. I said, because I did not find it commanded in the word of God.

Keel. He said we were commanded to pray.

Bun. I said, but not by the Common Prayer-book.

Keel. He said how then?

Bun. I said with the spirit. As the Apostle saith, I will pray with the spirit with understanding. 1 Cor. xiv. 15.

Keel. He said, we might pray with the spirit with understanding, and with the Common Prayer-book also.

Bun. I said that those prayers in the Common Prayerbook, was such as was made by other men, and not by the

motions of the Holy Ghost, within our Hearts; and as I said the Apostle saith, he will pray with the spirit and with understanding; not with the spirit and the Common Prayerbook.

Another Justice. What do you count prayer? Do you think it is to say a few words over before, or among a people?

Bun. I said, no, not so; for men might have many elegant, or excellent words, and yet not pray at all: But when a man prayeth, he doth through a sense of those things which he wants (which sense is begotten by the spirit) pour out his heart before God through Christ; though his words be not so many, and so excellent as others are.

Justices. They said, that was true.

Bun. I said, this might be done without the Common Prayer-book.

Another. One of them said, (I think it was Justice Blundale, or Justice Snagg) How should we know, that you do not write out your prayers first, and then read them afterwards to the people? This he spake in a laughing way.

Bun. I said, it is not our use, to take a pen and paper and write a few words thereon, and then go and read it over to a company of people.

But how should we know it, said he?

Bun. Sir, it is none of our custom, said I.

Keel. But said Justice Keelin, it is lawful to use Common Prayer, and such like forms: For Christ taught his disciples to pray, as John also taught his disciples. And further, said he, cannot one man teach another to pray? Faith comes by hearing: And one man may convince another of sin, and therefore prayers made by men, and read over, are good to teach, and help men to pray.

While he was speaking these words, God brought that word into my mind, in the eighth of the Romans, at the 26th verse: I say God brought it, for I thought not on it before: but as he was speaking, it came so fresh into my mind, and was set so evidently before me, as if the Scripture had said, Take me, take me; so when he had done speaking,

Bun. I said, Sir, the Scripture saith, that it is the spirit as helpeth our infirmities; for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: But the spirit itself maketh intercession for