Obrazy na stronie

to my

with her; I took the child, I believe, and shewed do not remember Fanny Lloyd being called up it to Mrs. Sander. I then returned the child any morning to make breakfast for the Princess. to the woman. I made inquiries after the father, I did not like Captain Manby's coming so often, and afterwards desired the woman to bring the and staying so late, and I was uneasy at it. I child again to the house, which she did. The remember a piece of plate, a silver lamp, being child was taken to the Princess; after the Prin- sent to Captain Manby; I saw it in Sicard's cess had seen it, she desired the woman to take it possession; he told me, it was for Captain Monagain, and bring it back in a few days, and by, and be bad a letter to send with it. I have Mrs. Sander was desired to provide linen for never seen Captain Manby at the Princess's, at it. Within a few days the child was brought Ramsgate, before pine in the morning, but I again by the mother, and was left, and has been

have heard he has been there earlier. I had with the Princess ever since. I do not recollect never any suspicion of there being any thing the child had any mark; but, upon reflection, I improper either from the frequent visits of Capdo recollect that the mother said he was inarked tain Manby, or from his conduct. I was at Cawith elder wine on the hand. The father of the therington with the Princess ; she used to go out child, whose name is Austin, lives with me at generally in her own chaise. I think I have Pimlico. My wife is a laundress, and washed

once or twice seen her go out with Mr. Hood, in the linen of the Prince. Austin is employed to

his one-horse chaise ; they have been out for turn a mangle for me. The child was born in two hours, or two hours and a half together. I Brownlow-street, and it was baptized there ; but believe only a day or two elapsed betweeu the time I ouly know this from the mother. The mother of the child being first brought, and being then has since lain-in a second time in Brown-brought back again, and left with the Princess. low-street. I never saw the woman

I am sure the child was not weaned after it had knowledge before she came with the petition to been first brought. I do not recollect ang gen. the door. I had no particnlar directions by the tleman ever sleeping in the house. I do not Princess to procure a child. I thought it better remember Lawrence, the painter, ever sleeping to take the child of persons of good character there. The Princess seems very fond of the than the child of a pauper. Nothing led me, child; it is always called William Austin. from tbe appearance of the Princess, to suppose

Thos. STIKEMAN. that she was with child; but, from her shape, it Sworn at Lord Grenville's house, in Downingis difficult to judge when she is with child. When street, the 7th day of June, 1806, before us, she was with child of the Princess Charlotte, I

ERSKINE, SPENCER, GRENVILLE, should not have known it, when she was far ad

ELLENBOROUGH. vauced in ber time, if I had not been told it. A true Copy-T. Becket. Sir Sydney Smith, at one time, visited very frequently at Montague House, two or three times a week. At the time the Princess was altering

(No. 10.) her room in the Turkish style, Sir Sydney Smith's THE DEPOSITION OF JOHN SICARD, visits were very frequent. The Princess con

I have lived seven years with the Princess of sulted him upon them. Mr. Morell was the

Wales, am house-steward, and have been in that upholsterer. Sir Sydney Smith came frequently situation from the end of six months after I first alone. He staid alone with the Princess some

lived with her Royal Highness. I remember the times till eleven o'clock.at night. He has been

child who is now with the Princess of Wales there till twelve o'clock, and after, I believe, being brought there ; it was about five months alone with the Princess. The Princess is of that

old when it was brought; it is about four years lively vivacity, that she makes herself familiar

ago, just before we went to Ramsgate. I had with gentlemen, which prevented my being

not the least suspicion of the object of my being struck with his staying so late. I do not believe

brought here. I had opportunity of seeing the that at that time any other gentleman visited the

Princess frequently; I waited on her at dinner Princess so frequently, or stayed so late. I

and supper; I never observed that the Princess have seen the Princess, when they were alone, had the appearance of being with child : I think sitting with Sir Sydney Smith on the same sofa, it was hardly possible that she should have been in the blue-room. I bad access to the blue-room

with child without my perceiving it. Sir Sydney at all times; there was an inner room which Smith used to visit very frequently at Montagne opened into the blue-room. When that room

House, in 1802, with Sir Join and Lady Dou. was not lighted up I did not go into it; I did not

glas. He was very often, I believe, alone with consider that I had a right to go into it. I had

the Princess, and so was Mr. Canning, and other no idea on what account I was brought here. I gentlemen. 'I cannot say that I ever suspected did not know that the Princess's conduct was

Sir Sydney Smith of any improper conduct with questioned, or questionable. I was with the

the Princess. I never had any suspicion of the Princess at Ramsgate; when she was at East

Princess acting improperly with Sir Sydney Cliff, Captain Manby was very freqnently there ; Smith, or any other gentleman. I remember went away as late at night as eleven o'clock. I Captain Manby visiting at Moumgue House. The Princess of Wales did not pay for the ex- Royal Highness was generally blooded twice in a pense of fitting up his cabin, but the linen for- year, but not lately. I never had any reason to niture was ordered hy me, by direction of the suppose that the Princess received the visits of Princess, of Newberry and Jones. It was put any gentleman at improper hours. Sir Sydney by Newberry and Jones in the Princess's bill, Smith visited her frequently, and almost daily. and was paid for with the rest of the bill by He was there very late, sometimes till two Miss Heyman.

o'clock in the morning. I never saw Sir Syd

JOHN SICARD. ney Smith in a room alone with the Princess late Sworn at Lord Grenville's house, in Downing

at night. I never saw any thing which led me

to suppose that Sir Sydney Smith was on a very street, this 7th day of June, 1866, before us,

familiar footing with the Princess of Wales. lat. Erskine, SPENCER, GRENVILLE,

tended the Princess of Wales to Southend; she ELLENBOROUGH.

had two houses, No. 9 and No. 8. I knew CapA true Copy-J. Becket.

tain Manby, he commanded the Africaine; he visited the Princess while his ship was there; he

was frequently with the Princess. I do not know (No. 11.)

or believe, and I have no reason to believe, that THE DEPOSITION OF CHARLOTTE

Captain Manby stayed till very late hours wie

the Princess. I never suspected that there was SANDER.

any improper familiarity between them. I never I have lived with the Princess of Wales eleven expressed to any body a wish that Captain May. years. I am a native of Brunswick, and came by's visits were not so frequent. If the Princess with the Princess from Brunswick. The Prin- had company I was never present. The Princess cess has a little hoy living with her under her was at Ramsgate in 1803. I have seen Captain protection; he had a mark on his hand, but it is | Manby there frequently. He came to the Prin. worn off; I first saw him four years ago, in the

ccss's house to dinner. He never stayed till late antumn. The father and mother of the child are at night at the Princess's house. I was in De. still alive : I bave seen them both. The father

vonshire with the Princess lately : there was no worked in the Dock-yard at Deptford, but has

one officer that slie saw when she was in Nasone now lost the nse of his limbs; the father's name

shire more than the rest. I never heard from the is Austin. The mother brought the child to the Princess that she apprehended her conduct was Princess when he was four months old; I was

questioned. When I was brought here I thought present when the child was brought to the Prin- I might be questioned respecting the Princess's cess; she was in her own room up stairs when conduct, and I was sorry to come; I don't know the child was brought; she came out, and took why I thought so : I never saw any thing in the the child herself. I understood that the child

conduct of the Princess, while I lived with her, was expected before it was brought. I am sure

wbich would have made me uneasy if I had been that I never saw the child in the house hefore it her husband. When I was at Southend I dined appeared to be four months old. The Princess in the, steward's room. I can't say whether I was not ill or indisposed in the autumn of 1802.

ever heard any body in the steward's room say I was dresser to her Royal Highness; she could any thing about the Captain (meaning Captain not be ill or indisposed without my knowing it. Manby); it is so long ago, I may have forgot it. I am sure that she was not confined to her room, I have seen Captain Manby alone with the Prinor to her bed, in that autumn; there was not, to cess, at No.9, in the drawing-room, at Southmy knowledge, any other child in the house; it end; I have seen it only once or twice; it was was hardly possible there could have been a at two or three o'clock in the afternoon, and child there without my knowing it. I have no never later. I slept in a room next to the Prins recollection that the Princess had grown bigger


in the house, No.9, at Southend; I never in the year 1802 than usual ; I am sure the Prin- saw Captain Manby in any part of that house but cess was uot pregnant; being her dresser, I

the drawing-room. I have no reason to believe must have seen it, if she was. I solemnly and

he was in any other room in the house. I was at positively swear I have no reason to know or Catherington with the Princess; she was at Mr. believe that the Princess of Wales has been at Hood's house. I never saw any familiarity beany time pregnant during the time I have lived tween her and Mr. Hood; I have seen her drive with her Royal Highness at Movtagne House. out in Mr. Hood's carriage with him alone; it I may have said to Cole, that the Princess was was a gig; they used to be absent for several grown much thinner, but I do not recollect that I hours; a servant of the Princess attended them. did. I never heard any body say any thing about I have delivered packets, by the order of the the Princess being pregnant till I came here to. Princess, which she gave me,' sealed up, to day. I did not expect to be asked any questions Sicard, to be by him forwarded to Captain to-day respecting the Princess being pregnant. Manby. The birth-day of the child who lives Nobody came over to the Princess from Germany, with the Princess is the 11th of July, as his moin the autumn of 1802, to my knowledge. Her ther told me; she says that he was cbristened at

Deptford. The child had a mark on the hand: the mother told me that it was from red wine. I believe the child came to the Princess in November.

C. SANDER. Sworn at Lord Grenville's house, in Downingstreet, the 7th day of June, 1806. ERSKINE, SPENCER, GRENVILLE,

ELLENBOROUGH. A true Copy-J. Becket.

house on the 15th of November, and left it there, and it has been with the Princess ever since. I saw the child last Whit-Monday, and I swear that it is my child.

Sworn at Lord Grenville's house in Downing-
street, the 7th day of June, 1806, before us,

A true Copy-J.Becket.

(No. 12.)

(No. 13 )


23th June, 1806. I know the child which is now with the Prin

MY LORD,-In consequence of certain incess of Wales. I am the mother of it. I wis delivered of it four years ago the 11th of July next,

quiries directed by his Majesty, Lady Douglas, at Brownlow-street Hospital. I have lain in

wife of Si Jobo Douglas of the Marines, bas there three times. William, who is with the

deposed upon oath that she was told by her Princess, is the second child I laid in of there. Royal Highness the Princess of Wales, that It was marked in the right hand with red wine.

at a breakfast at Lady Willougbby's house in My husband was a labourer in the Dock-yard at May or June, 1802, &c.-(Extract from Lady Deptford. When peace was proclaimed, a num- Douglas's Deposition. )-11 being material to ber of the workmen were discharged, and my


ascertain, as far as possible, the truth of this band was one who was discharged. I went to the fact, I am to request that your Lordship will Princess with a petition on a Saturday, to try to have the goodness to desire Lady Willoughby get my husband restored. I lived at that time at

to put down in writing every circumstance in Deptford New-row, No.7, with a person of the name of Bearblock. He was a milkman. The

any manner relative thereto (if any such there day I went to the Princess with the petition was

be) of which her Ladyship has any recolleca fortnight before the 6th of November. Mr.

tion; and also to apprize me, for his Majesty's Bennet, a baker in New-street, was our dealer,

information, whether at any time, during the ‘and I took the child to Mr. Bennet's when I went

course of the above-mentioned year, Lady to receive my husband's wages every week, from Willoughby observed any sucb alteration in the time I left the Hospital till I carried the child the Princess's shape, or any other circumto the Princess. I knew Mr. Stikeman only by stances, as might induce her Ladyship to behaving seen him once before, when I went to lieve that her Royal Highness was then pregapply for a letter to Brownlow-street Hospital. nant. - I am, &c. When I went to Montague-house, I desired Mr.

SPENCER. Stikeman to present my petition. He said they

A true Copy-J. Becket. were denied to do such things, but seeing me with a bahy he could do no less. He then took the child from me, and was a long time gone.

(No. 14.) He then brought me back the child, and brought balf-a-guinea which the ladies sent me. He said

Sidmouth, 21st June, 1806. if the child had been younger, he could have got

MY DEAR LORD-In obedience to your it taken care of for me, but desired that I would

commands, I lost no time in communicating come up again. I went up again on the Monday

to Lady Willoughby the important subject of following, and I saw Mr. Stikeman. Mr. Stike- your private letter, dated the 20th instant, man afterwards came several times to us, and and I have the honour of enclosing a letter appointed me to take the child to Montague- to your Lordship from Lady Willoughby.house on the 5th of November, but it rained all I have the konour, &c. day, and I did not take it. Mr. Stikeman came

GWYDIR. down to me on Saturday the 6th of Novem

A true Copy-J. Becket. ber, and I took the child on that day to the Princess's house. The Princess was out. I waited till she returned. She saw the child,

(No. 15.) and asked its age. I went down into the coffee. room, and they gave me some arrow-root to wean

MY LORD.-In obedience to the command the child ; for I was suckling the child at this

contained in your Lordship's letter commutime, and when I had weaned the child, I was to

nicated to me by Lord Gwydir, I have the bring it and leave it with the Princess. I did honour to inform you, that I have no recol. wean the child, and brought it to the Princess's lection whatever of the fact stated to have

Rour, &c.

taken place, during a breakfast at Whiteball to wash linen for the Princess of Wales's family. iu May or June 1802; nor do I bear iu mind After the Princess left Charlton and went to any particular circumstances relative to her Blackheath, I used to go over to Blackheath to Royal Highness the Princess of Wales, at the

fetch the linen to wash. I have had linen from period to which you allade.--I have the ho

the Princess's bouse the same as other ladies : I

mean that there were such appearances on it as June 21, 1806.

might arise from natural causes to which women


are subject. I never wasbed the Princess's own

bed-linen, but once or twice occasionally. I reA true Copy–J. Becket.

collect one bundle of linen once coming, which I

thought rather more marked than usual. They (No. 16.)

told me that the Princess bad been bled with Extract from the Register of the Births and

leeches, and it had dirtied the linen more: the serBaptisms of Children born in the Brownlow

vants told me so; but I don't remember who the street Lying-in Hospital.

servants were that told me so. I recollect once, I

came to town and left the linen with my daughter Born



to wash ; I looked at the clothes slowly before I May,

went, and counted them, and my daughter, and a 8, Thomas, of Richard and Elizabeth Austin, 20 woman she employed with her, washed them July,

while I was in town. I thought when I looked ll, William, of Samuel and Sophia Austin, 15 them over that there might be something more

The above are the only two entries under the than usual. My opinion was that it was from name of Austin, about the period in question,

The linen had the appearance of and were extracted by me. No description of the

I believed it at the time. They were children is preserved.

fine damask napkins, and some of threm marked CHARLES WATKINS WILLIAMS WYNN. with a little red crown in the corner, and some June 23, 18c6.

without marks. I might mention it to Fanny A true CopyJ. Becket.

Lloyd. I don't recollect when this was, but it

must be more than two years and a half ago; for (No. 17.)

I did not wash for the Princess's family but very THE DEPOSITION OF ELIZABETH

little for the last six months. Mary Wilson used to GOSDEN.

give me the linen, and'I beliere it was she who told I am the wife of Fraucis Gosden, who is a ser

me that the Princess was bled with leeches; but the vant of the Princess of Wales, and has lived with appearance of the linen which I have spokep of her Royal Highness eleven years. In November, before, was different from that which it was said 1802, I was sept for to the Princess's house to was stained by bleeding with leeches. I rememlook after a little child; I understood that he had ber the child coming. I used to wash the linen been then nine days in the house. I was nurse

for the child, and Mrs. Gosden who nursed the to the child. One of the ladies, I think Miss child, used to pay me for it. I kept a book, in Sander, delivered the child to me, and told me

which I entered the linen I washed. I am not ber Royal Highness wished me to take care of

sure whętber I have it still :-but. if I have, it is him. The child never slept with the Princess. I

in a chest at my daughter's, at Charlton, and I sometimes used to take him to the Princess before will produce it if I can find it.

B. TOWNLEY. she was up, and leave him with her on her bed. The child had a mark on the hand, it appeared Sworn at Lord Grenville's, house, in Downinge to be a stain of wine, but is now worn out. I

street, the 23d of June, 1806, before us, was about a year and three quarters with the


ELLENBOROUGH. child. The mother used to come often to see him. I never saw the Princess dress the A true Cops-J. Becket. child, or take off its things herself; but she has seen me do it. The child is not so much with

(No. 19.) the Princess now as he was.


Eliz. GOSDEN. OF GREENWICH, SURGEON AND Sworn at Lord Grenville's house, in Downing- APOTHECARY. street, the 23d day of June, 1806, before us, I am a surgeon and apothecary at Greenwich, she was pregnant. I never said that she was so to sent for hy her Royal Highness to bleed her. i Fanny Lloyd. I have bled the Princess twice; was not at home, and Mr. Edmeades bled her. the second bleeding was in 1802, aud it was in I had bled ber two or three times before; it was the June quarter, as appears by the book I kept. | by direction of Sir Francis Millman. It was for I don't know what she was bled for it was at her an inflammation she had on the lungs. As much own desire it was not by any medical advice. as I knew it was not usual for the Princess to bę I was unwilling to do it, but she wished it. If I bled twice a year. I don't kuow that any other recollect, slie complained of a pain in her chest, medical person attended her at the time that I did, but I don't remember that she had any illness. nor do I believe that there did. I don't know I did not use to bleed her twice a year. I cer- that Sir Francis Millman had advised that she tainly saw her Royal Highness in November 1802. should be blooded at the time that I was sent for I saw her on the i6th of November, but I had not and was not at bome, nor what was the cause of any idea of ber being then with child. I did not her being then blooded. I do recollect something aitend hier on the 16th of November, but I saw of having attended the servant who was in the her thien ; I. was visiting a child (a male child,) coffee-room, for a cold, but I am sure I never said from Deptford. I have no recollection of having to her that the Princess was with child, or looked seen the Princess in October, 1802. The child as if she was so. I have known that the Princess must have been from three to five months old

ERSKINE, SPENCER,GRENVILLE, and was appointed the surgeon and apothecary of

the Princess of Wales, in 1801. From. that time A true Copy.-J. Becket.

I have attended her Royal Highness and her. household. I knew Fanny Lloyd who attended

in the coffee-room, at the Princess's. I fre(No. 18.),

quently attended her for colds. I do not recolDEPOSITION OF BETTY TOWNLEY. lect that I ever said any thing to her respecting I lived at Charlton sixteen years, and till within

the Princess of Wales. It never once entered the last two years. I was a laundress, and used my thoughts, while I attended the Princess, thata have continued to live with her Royal Highness written appointment, and from that time I never to this time. I know Lady Douglas. I rememattended her Royal Highness, or any of the ser- ber ber lying in. It happened by accident that vants, in my medical capacity, except that I once her Royal Highness was in the house at the time attended Miss Gouch, and once Miss Millfield. of Lady Douglas's delivery. I think it was in There was a child brought to the Princess while I July, 1302. I was there myself. The Princess attended her. I was called npon to examine the was not in the room at the time Lady Douglas child. It was a girl. It must have been in 1801,

has frequently sent to Mr. Edmeades for leeches. when I first saw it. I have no recollection of the

When I saw the female child, Mrs. Saader was Princess liaving been ill about the end of Octo- in the room, and some other servants, but I don't ber, 1802. I have visited the child very often recollect who. I was sent for to see whether since, and I have always understood it to be the there was any disease about the child-to see whesame child. The Princess used sometimes to send

ther it was a bealthy child, as her Royal Highfor leeches, and had them from me. I don't think

ness meant to take it under her patronage. The that I'attended the Princess, or saw her often, child could just walk alone. I saw the child frein the summer and autumn of 1802. I had not

quently afterwards. It was at one time with Bidthe sole care of the Princess's health during the good, and another time with Gosden and his wife. time I have spoken of. Sir Francis Millman at- I don't recollect that the Princess was by at any tended her occasionally.

time when I saw the child. I never saw the child THOMAS EDMEADES. in Montague House when I attended it as a paSworn at Lord Grenville's house, in Downing- tient, but when I was first sent for to see if the street, the 25th day of June, 1806, before us, child had any disease it was in Montague House. ERSKINE, SPENCER, GRENVILLE,


Sworn at Lord Grenville's house, iu DowningA true Copy-J. Becket.

street, the 25th day of June, 1806, before us,

Erskine, Spencer, GRENVILLE, (No. 20.)


A true Copy–J. Becket.
I am a surgeon at Greenwich; have been in part-

(No. 21.) pership with Mr. Edmeades since 1800. Before


ALD. he was my partner I attended the Princess of Wales's family from the time of her coming to I came first to live with the Princess of Wales Blackheath from Charlton. I was appointed by in 1801, merely as a friend and companion, and the Princess her surgeon, in April, 1801, by a

was delivered. There was certainly no appearor thereabouts. The child afterwards had the ance of the Princess being pregnant at that time. measles, and I attended her. When first I saw I saw the Princess at that time every day, and at the child, I think it must have been about ten all hours. I believe it to be quite impossible that months old. It must bave been prior to April,

the Princess should have been with cbild without 1801. I understood that the child was taken my observing it. I never was at breakfast with through charity. I remember that there was a the Princess at Lady Willoughby's. The female servant who attended in the coffee-room. Princess took a little girl into the house about I never said to that woman, or to any other per- nine years ago. I was not in the house at the son, that the Princess was with child, or looked time. I was in the house when the boy, who is as if she was with child, and I never thought so, now there, was brought there. She bad said heor surmised any thing of the kind. I was once fore openly that she should like to have a child,


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