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gold under existing laws, and selling the ex- repeat no harm can come. If there is an over- harm ; and if, beyond the surplus for what it cess, $10,000,000 at a time, in the market plus, has anybody of late made an argument provides, there is a quantity of gold in the seems to me to be very vicious. On the other and satisfied the people of this country, or the Treasury, that gold should not be there, but hand, it is an evil and a burden to commerce two Houses of Congress, that beyond this large should be sold to extinguish the most expens. that $100,000,000 should be kept idle in the || working residuum, working balance or deposit, | ive interest-bearing obligations which go to Treasury; and I am very much embarrassed in whatever you please to calì it, of $40,000,000, \ enhance the burden of taxation under which knowing how to vote. Perhaps to the extent it is worth while to hoard gold in the Treasury | the people of this country are compelled to that accumulations have already taken place, for some unexplained reason? know tbat

groan. it will be safe to vote for the proposition, hoping heretofore arguments have been made on this Mr. SHERMAN, If this amendment is to that the proposition which ought to be adopted subject, and I think I may say truly that those pass I call the attention of the Senator from will be provided for before long.

arguments bave expired by their own terms. Illinois to an amendment that must be made, Mr. CONKLING. It seems to me that the Those arguments have exhausted themselves | unless he wishes entirely to stop the payment amendment as now modified by the mover in the actual experience of the occasion. No- l of interest upon the public debt in coin: The obviates both the objections which we heard body is more competent than the honorable | amendment as it now stands provides that from the honorable Senator from New Jersey, Senator who sits on my right, (Mr. CATTELL,] when the amount of gold shall be reduced to [Mr. CATTELL.] I was impressed with his to enlighten us on that subject, and he has $40,000,000, exclusive of the gold certificates, statement that the proposition at first was one stated, I have no doubt, with candor, exhaust- then the excess shall be sold. I submit to him to employ coin to extinguish the least costly lively, all that can be said in favor of this prop- | this consideration : that the amount of payments obligation of the Government, and I should osition; and I think he will agree with me have been embarrassed in voting for the propo

maturing at a single time are from thirty to when I say, that giving the utmost force to all || thirty-six million dollars. On the 1st of July sition had it stood as a substitute for the whole his suggestions, it leaves him and leaves me at and on the 1st of January interest matures, bill. Now, the two propositions taken to liberty to conclude that, beyond $40,000,000, and is payable on each of those days to gether provide for the issue of three per cents. or some such sum conceded to be sufficient as the amount of between thirty and thirty-six to be held as a reserve; and to that I am unable the residuum remaining on hand, the surplus | millions, and that amount is increasing daily to appreciate the objections assigned by the gold in the Treasury ought to be disposed of. as the seven-thirties are being converted into honorable Senator from Wisconsin.

But, Mr. President, I have heard the sug: the gold notes. The result is that on the 1st I understand in a word the history of that gestion made since this debate has proceeded of December, for instance, if the balance in matter to be this: originally a reserve was to that we are withdrawing from the Secretary a the Treasury was $45,000,000, the Secretary be held by the banks of lawful money, thereby discretion on this subject and assuming it our. would be bound to sell all above $40,000,000, meaning legal-tender notes, the promises to selves. Yes, sir, we are; and in that respect and then on the 1st of January he would be pay on demand of the United States. Under I submit this proposition stands in marked unable without exhausting the entire surplus, ibat authority the banks assumed to hold com- advantage and has marked recommendations to meet the interest of the public debt. pound-interest notes, notes bearing interest at when compared with another proposition for I know that there is a strong feeling against ihe rate of six per cent , payable semi-annu- which this will presently be put aside. Here the hoarding of this gold, and at one time I ally, the accruing interest itself bearing inter- is one single point of administration, a simple | introduced à proposition bere limiting the Whether that was within or without the proposition which has been viewed round and amount to $50,000,000. I did not press

it, permission of the law was questionable; but round by the business community of the coun- because the argument was urged with a great that question has been condoned, and the try and by Congress. As far as its isolation, | deal of force that the very presence of this gold banks were permitted thus to hold, and they its simplicity, and our long experience with it in the Treasury, although it was a loss of interstill hold, a large sum of compound-interest go to enable any person, Secretary of the Treas. est to the Government, operated as a great potes. Upon and for these notes the United ury or others, to determine what is right, we safety-valve to prevent speculations in gold and States is liable. They are matured and there- ourselves are enabled to form an opinion; and

to prevent the rise and fall of gold. However, fore the liability is immediate, as much so as therefore, when we legislate with regard to it, I do not wish to discuss it. it can be upon these call three per cent. cer- it seems to me that we do not invade that If the Senate choose to add this as an addi tificates. It seems to me that that answers in wholesome discretion which ought to be left tional section to this bill the amendment ought large part the argument of the honorable Sen- to the Secretary of the Treasury.

to be made that I now suggest: to insert in line ator from Wisconsin.

But, Mr. President, if we do invade that dis- eleven, after the word "given," the waris But he said further, that we became at once cretion, if we arrogate to ourselves what ought “and exclusive of interest accruing within responsible to this amount for the circulation to be left to administrative action, what shall sixty days thereafter;" so that it will read: of these banks. Why, sir, the Government be said of the funding bill, as it is called, Till the amount of coin in the Treasury, exclusive is responsible now for every shilling of national which waits upon this ineasure? There is a of tbat for which gold cortificates of deposit shall bank circulation. We hold bonds to indem- subject into which various and complex con

have been given, and exclusive of interest according vify the Government against that responsi- siderations and elements enter. There is a

within sixty days thereafter, shall be reduced to the

sum of $40,000,000. bility ; but failing those bonds or not, still the question which if in private business it were Government stands as the guarantor of every to be determined by an individual, a firm, or

For instance, snppose this bill had been in

force on the 1st day of July last. There are farthing of national bank circulation. There- a corporation, it might well be said that we fore I do not see that we increase our liabiliiy should cut according to the cloth; that our

$99,914,000 in the Treasury in coin. Taking

out the certificates leaves about eighty-two milat all by the issuance of these certificates. It way should be felt; that that mode of dispos- lion dollars. The amount maturing on the 1st so happens, however, that the peculiar func- ing of it should be resorted to which belongs of July is $31,000,000. Alaska will consome tion, the characteristic quality of these certfi peculiarly and alone to administration, to ex. cates is such that they have an extrinsic value ; || periment, and to discretion; and yet the Sen.

$7,000,000 more, and the expenses of our for and therefore the banks, perforce, if you please,

eign intercourse and the expenses of our Nary ate is not stopping as to that.

abroad, all of which are paid in gold, might will accept them when the public at large would Now, sir, without dwelling upon this, I insist not; so that I can see and appreciate the truth

sweep every dollar of gold in the I'reasury

, a that if this proposition of the Senator from contingency that I think the Senator ought to and'the force of the suggestion made by the Illinois be obnoxious to the criticism that it is provide against. I think the amount of the is an exceptional instance in which, for pecu- lodged with the Secretary of the Treasury, the low. "Then, any sudden fretuation or failing liar reasons, we are able to extend a certain other measure which we are considering is so

off of customs might leave us without money portion of the debt at an interest so cheap as obviously and so hopelessly obnoxious that we

to pay the interest of the public debt, three per cent. Very well, sir; that is an can hardly expect properly to deal with the

With this statement I am perfectly willing argument upon which I am willing to yote for subjects which it embraces. I think this disthat portion of the bill. cretion bas been left long enough with the

to leave the question. I do not think this seca Now, the Senator from Illinois proposes, Secretary, and I think the people of this counthis matter being disposed, that gold accumu

ing for $25,000,000 of three per cent certifilated in the Treasury shall be sold at monthly in finance, bankers, business men, and politie | think the Senate ought to adopt it without full

cates-a mere temporary measure-nor do I periods, down to $40,000,000. What is the cal economists who have written about it, bave consideration. answer to that? It is, first, speaking of the been left long enough to grope in the dark for

Mr. MORTON. I simply wish to say that present, that the current payments of the Treas- a reason, as the Senator from Indiana said,

the adoption of this amendment now will have ury will themselves reduce to $40,000,000 the accumulated gold. Very well; then this is a gold revenue, and then, beyond the working the treasury shall at no time hereafter recent harmless provision, and it will have nothing to capital or balance in favor of which an argu

$40,000,000, and is equivalent to the declara act upon.

To be sure, we shall take nothing ment can be made, holding it for some unrein the present by our motion, but no detriment can come. That, I think, is enough to answer

vealed purpose and in deference to some argu- legal-tender notes never will be redeemed. ment which, I repeat, has not yet been made,

That is simply what it amounts to. We proit, because the argument of the Senator from and in circumstances which are wholly unsat- vide that the gold shall never accumulate to New Jersey presupposes that there is no dan- isfactory to the people of the country by whom ger and no harm in exhausting gold down to

exceed $40,000,000, and we are saying to the this amount is raised and for whose interest it $40,000,000 or thereabouts. That, he says, is onght to be used.

nation that the legal-tender notes which se the operation of the present administration of Therefore, I shall vote for this amendment, pard, because we have determined that were the Government. If, then, there is no overplus relying pon the fact that if there is no surplus upon which this provision is to take hold, I upon which it can take hold, it will do no

have promised to pay in gold never will be not accumulate the gold

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the Senator from Oregon, who urged this sug-

Mr. TRUMBULL. They are, in one sense,
gestion, suppose that the credit of this Govern- obligations.
ment, which owes to-day $2,500,000,000, de- Mr. EDMUNDS. In what sense ?
pends upon the amount of gold it hoards up in Mr. TRUMBULL. They are such a kind of
its Treasury rather than upon the wealth of the obligation on the part of the Government that
nation, the production of the nation, and the I suppose they ought to be redeemed at some
enterprise of its people? It is the wealth of time or other.
the country, the enterprising population we Mr. EDMUNDS. What in?
have, the vast productions and resources of the Mr. TRUMBULL. We ought to redeem
country that give the nation credit. It does them in coin, unquestionably. As to these
not depend upon $40,000,001 or $80,000,000 other obligations I am not disposed to say how
that is hoarded up in the I'reasury. The Sen- we ought to redeem them. That question is
ator from Indiana is not more in favor of specie not necessarily involved in the present discus-
payments than I am. I am in favor of return- sion. The suggestions I was giving were in
ing to specie payments, and I wish some reply to those thrown out by the Senator from
measure could be adopted to day looking to an Ohio; and, according to his own statement,
early resumption of specie payments.

these $40,000,000 would be ample to meet any There is great force in what the other Sen- call that might come upon the Treasury at any ator from Indiana (Mr. HENDRICKS) said, that time. we ought not to collect more gold than we Mr. CATTELL. I beg the Senate to como need. I do not believe in burdening the peo- to a vote on this question. The Senator from ple with taxation and collecting money for | Ohio, the chairman of the Committee on The purpose of selling it. I agree with him Finance, has very kindly allowed the funding that our tariff ought to be so adjusted as not bill to run along now for more than an hour. to collect more gold than the necessities of the I only wish to say, in regard to the amendment country require. But no proposition is sug. of the Senator from Illinois, that it is a very gested in regard to the tariff. This surplus | big question, and opens a wide field for discushas been coming into your Treasury; it has sion, and it ought not to be attached to a bill been lying there for years; and shall we keep to which it has no positive relation, at any rate it there? This measure will not prevent a in its present shape. It is a question, as has reduction of the tariff. I shall be ready to been seen already, on which there is a wide unite with the Senator from Indiana whenever | diversity of opinion on this floor, and there a fitting occasion offers to reduce the tariff, so will be a wide diversity of opinion in the as not to allow more gold than we need to be other House. I think the bill' which I have collected. That is no reason, however, for had the honor of advocating here is so plain keeping gold in the Treasury. I hope that the and so simple that it will pass this Chamber, amendment I have suggested will be adopted. freed from this amendment, and pass the other

One word, however, in reply to the Senator House without difficulty. I shall be very glad from Ohio, who says that $10,000,000 is not a to listen to the Senator from Illinois on this sufficient surplus, and then he illustrates by ll question when it comes up in a distinct form, what would have been the condition of the not trammeling a little bill of this kind at the Treasury on the 1st day of July last if this close of the session with so big a measure, one proposition had been in operation. Why, sir, on which so wide differences of opinion are the $10,000,000 would have met every obliga- held. Therefore I rose now, without entering tion, and more, too, and we are constantly in into the discussion of that question on its the receipt of gold. I presume the receipts | merits, to say that I hope for that reason the of gold during the month of July will amount amendment of the Senator from Illinois will to fifteen or twenty millions; I do not know the not prevail. precise sum.

Mr. TRUMBULL. I am not disposed to Mr. SHERMAN. They amount to about take up time about it. ten million dollars a month now.

Mr. SHERMAN. I call for the funding bill. Mr. TRUMBULL. The receipts for the I think that this bill is going to lead to a long first quarter of last year, as I have already || discussion, and therefore I insist

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reg. shown, were more than $48,000,000-more ular order. than $16,000,000 a month.

Mr. CATTELL. I think we can get a vote Mr. SHERMAN. The actual receipts are about one hundred and forty-five million dol- Mr. SHERMAN. I am perfectly willing to lars a year now.

yield, if we can get a vote; but I am satisfied Mr. TRUMBULL. Have the receipts for that we cannot. I know other Senators want any year within the last three years been as low to discuss it. I call for the special order.

H as $145,000,000 ? The receipts were $156,- Mr. CORBETT. Mr. President000,000 in 1866–67, and for the first quarter of Mr. CATTELL. May I make an appeal to 1867-68 $48,000,000. I should be glad to my friend from Oregon to allow a vote to be know if the Senator can inform me what the taken, unless

he feels compelled to say someactual receipts were for the fiscal year ending thing upon it? the 30th of June last?

Mr. CORBETT. I have been trying to obMr. SHERMAN. The accounts have not tain the floor for an hour to make some remarks been made up yet.

on this bill. I think it is a very important bill, Mr. TRUNBULL. I suppose not; but we one that should not be considered in haste, and have two quarters I think ; certainly we have on which all the Senators should be heard who the first quarter. desire to speak upon it.

f Mr. SHERMAN. I think it will be about Mr. SHERMAN. Then I call for the reg. one hundred and sixty million dollars for the ular order. whole of last year.

The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The reg. Mr. TRUMBULL. That is $40,000,000 | ular order is efore the Senate, it having been more than the interest upon our entire debt || passed over by common consent. that is payable in gold ; so that we are receiv. Mr. STEWART. I wish the chairman of ing all the time more than we have to pay out.

the Committee on Finance would let me pass a There can be no danger in reducing the sur- bill, that will take but a minute or two, removplus down to $10,000,000. Suppose it does ing political disabilities from certain persons. take nearly all of it; so much the better. We It is very important that it should go through do not want a dollar of surplus in the Treasury in order to remove the disabilities from a large for any other purpose than to meet the calls number of persons, who are necessary to the upon it. Certainly the Senator from Ohio organization of the southern Legislatures. 2 would not be in favor of keeping a single dol- Mr. SHERMAN. That would lead to delar in the Treasury if he knew he would always ll bate.

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to answer why it is that so much money is acquiescing in the results of the war in every Mr. HENDRICKS. Mr. President, it was drawn from them by the extraordinary power respect whatever. Congress came in and, ex: my desire at this time to submit some rather of taxation, that it may thus go to support the citing a strife with the Executive, stopped

, extended remarks to the Senate upon the most expensive military system that has ever and to some extent defeated, that restoration political questions now occupying public atten. been known in the world.

policy which was bringing again permanent tion; but the condition of my health to day I might speak of some of these expendi- union and permanent prosperity. That ques. will only allow a brief reference to them. tures. I might speak of that favoritism in a tion will be asked by a sensible, thinking peo.

I have observed for some days past a pur- small way which has shown itself in the pub- ple, and it is for the majority in Congress, and pose on the part of Senators who represent the lication in the newspapers that are favored by for their partisans over the country, to give a majority to avoid the position of the defensive, || special legislation in the District of Columbia direct, plain, and unequivocal answer. and to assume, if possible, that of the offensive of notices for inconsiderable Army supplies The people will want to know in this connecin this political contest. In my judgment, that upon the Rio Grande, and at the distant forts, tion why it is that by this political controversy is neilber practicable nor possible on their when it was impossible from the date of the that Congress has gotten up with the Execu: part; it is not in the nature of the case. For publication that any man could receive inform- live, striking down the policy that was then eight years the Federal Government and most ation by such publication which would enable almost a success, the return of trade, produc. of the State governments of the North bave him to compete in the bidding. I might speak tion, and of prosperity have been indefinitely been controlled by the party now in the ma. of other expenditures of like sort, indicating | delayed. They know, as Senators know, that jority in Congress, and it is not possible that a favoritism not worthy of any political party from the time when this controversy was gotthat party can avoid a response to the people that claims the confidence of the country, but ten up by Congress to break down the policy upon the questions that attract public attention, I will not occupy so much of the time of the of restoration, then almost completed, the proWaiving an inquiry into the conduct of that Senate.

ductions of a large portion of the country have party during the war, which they claim it is The people will wish to know during this from year to year fallen off, and that the exports not just to make, and confining the inquiry to contest why it is that the Supreme Court has which those productions furnished, enabling us the three years since the close of the war and been denied the right to inquire into the con- to keep up the balance of trade somewhat in our the return of peace, there are certain import- stitutionality of the legislation of this Congress. favor, have fallen off so much that in a large ant questions that must be answered. And, The people know that the Supreme Court was degree that balance has been made up in gold first, the people will desire to know very dis- established as one of the securities to their and in the Government securities. The people tinctly and emphatically what has been done liberty, as one of the props and pillars under- want to know why it is that trade cannot be with the $1,200,000,000 that have been col- neath their institutions. They want to know allowed to return to its ancient channels; that lected from them under the internal revenue why this prop and pillar has been stricken the industries of the country are not encour law and the tariff system since the 1st day of down, and for what political and party pur- | aged, but that, on the contrary, they are kept July, 1865. I know that $100,000,000 may be pose it has been done. If your legislation be in that disturbed condition that investments accounted for at least in part in the payment constitutional, valid, and right, then the people dare not be made by capital, and that labor is of interest upon the public debt. Then the will wish to know why Congress should shield afraid to make an effort even if capital should people will want to know how it is, independ- | itself in its enactments from that inquiry that be invested. ently of the interest upon the public debt, that the Constitution intended should be had in The people will ask one farther question, it has taken $800,000,000 to carry this Gov. || regard to all legislation.

what has bee: gained by this controversy, like ernment through a period of three years, when The people during this contest will wish to the question that in former times was asked in a time of peace it used to require but from know why it is that the executive department by the grandchild of the grandfather in rela sixty to seventy or eighty million dollars annu- has been stripped of that power which has been tion to the great battle, “What has all this ally. The people will wish to know during this conferred upon it by the Constitution; wliy it been about ?? Senators know very well that contest whether this enorinous sum of money, is that Congress has assumed to itselt all those when the Thirty-Ninth Congress met the work which has put the citizen everywhere over the powers which, for nearly eighty years, were of restoration, according to the policy of 1. land upon the observance of the strictest exercised under the Constitution by the exec- Johnson, was almost completed. Constitutions economy to respond to the demands of the utive department; and for what purpose of had been adopted in the southern States ahol. Government, has been expended in the pro- || good to the people this was intended. Why is ishing slavery, or declaring it abolished top motion of the public welfare, or whether it it that from the Executive has been taken the ever, repudiating the southern debt, und wak: has been expended in the promotion of the responsibility for the execution of the laws? ing every pledge to the Federal Union which interests of a party; whether it has been ex- Why is it that to the Senate has been assumed northern sentiment demanded; but Congress pended to extend the enterprises of the coun- that responsibility? Why is it that Congress intervened against that policy and interposed try, or to maintain in the southern States that has said that the power to remove from office its own, and now the people, after two or three system of government which has gradually sliall be taken from the Executive, when that years of delay, of distraction, of the disturbproceeded from step to step in arraying one power has been exercised, and as I believe ance of trade and commerce, want to know race against another; wliether it has been according to the spirit of the Constitution, and what has been gained by it. When you come expended in genuine acts of benevolence and as I know, according to the construction of the to answer that question to the people you can kindness, or in maintaining a political system | fathers, by the Executive all the time; and that not show them a single southern constitution by which the colored people have been organ- in the Senate, a many-headed body, where which any republican mind can say is a better ized throughout the South into a political responsibility is divided so that it lights upon constitution than had been adopted under the party; in other words, whether this enormous no particular individual, a responsibility should Johnson policy, unless you say it is a better sum that has been wrung from the people has be assumed which is worth nothing to the peo constitution because the negroes are entran: been expended for their benefit, for the pro- | ple and guaranties nothing to the fidelity and chised and a part of the whites disfranchised, motion of their interests and for their good, or security of the public service.

and the power in a great section of the coun: for other purposes; and no arts of the orator The people will want to know why for three l try taken from the white men and given to the or ingenuity of the sophist can avoid an answer years a party with a majority of two thirds in il colored men. to that grave, direct, and important inquiry. Congress have not restored the southern States The people will want to know why it is that

Why is it, sir, that in a time of profound to their practical relations to the Federal Gov. after the close of the war, after there was no peace it has cost $100,000,000 a year to sup- ernment; why it is that such a period has longer a rebel soldier with a gun in his band, port an Army of fifty-six thousand The people elapsed and no genuine, peaceful, and per- after the Sonth had amended its constitutions especially will want an answer to that ques- manent results have been attained? They and changed its laws according to the demands tion when you propose to elect t the Presi know what is the condition of affairs. They of the North in every particular, after they dency the head of that Army, who ror a portion know what temporary enterprises have been had declared slavery abolished, secession a of that period was not only the General of the set on foot in the southern States. They under- | fallacy, and the rebel debt not to be collected Army, but the Secretary of War. They want stand all that quite well; but they want to

why, then, in one third of this country did the to know how it was that during the adminis- know, and they demand to know, in my judg. party in power break down State governments tration of the Department by bin it cost at the ment, with a very earnest demand, why it is and establish in their stead military governo rate of $120,000,000 to support the War De- that these States have not been restored in the ments; why was it in that work you made the partment and Army, when it used to cost but spirit of the Constitution and with that bar- civil law subordinate to the military law; the $1,000,000 to the regiment. The people will mony which will promote the

judge upon the bench subordinate to the comwant to know why it is that in a time of pro- the Union, the stability of our institutions, and inanding officer ; and gave to a military officer found peace, when we have no war, except the prosperity of every section of the country.

the power to drive the legislators from the inconsiderable strifes on our borders with the The people will want to know in this contest halls of legislation, and to substitute ren of Indians, $95,000,000 were expended, in the why it is that Congress stepped in between the bis own selection in their place, and subverted fiscal year before the last, to maintain the Army, Executive and an immediate, peaceful, prac

all the principles of free government, recog. independent of bounties, and that for the quar- tical, and permanent restoration of the States nized, honored, and revered in this country's ter when the candidate for the Presidency was to their practical relations to the Federal Gov. and established in their stead a system of gof: the Secretary of War, it cost about thirty mil- ernment; why it was that when we were so far ernment that finds no parallel in any of the lion dollars, or at the rate of $120,000,000 per advanced in that work under the policy inau- countries of the world since the days of the annum ; $2,000,000 to the regiment; $2,000 gurated by the Executive, when States were

proconsuls. To that question, it seems to me, to the man. The people will want the majority accepting the propositions, adopting constitu- it will be difficult to find a suitable answer. !! in Congress, when they demand the continua tions that were acceptable everywhere, agree. ll is not enough to say that in neighborhoods polig

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pub some time ago I read to the Senate, from one be misunderstood. The man that runs may enca of the papers published in this city, a telegram read and understand. The plainest as well as west coming from the central portion of Alabama the most learned will interpret it alike. It of I that the fifth white man had been murdered in declares our views and our purposes so dis- wou the same neighborhood, and no notice what- tinctly and emphatically that the people are Stat ever had been taken of it; and that, too, not and cannot be misled. under the government, military, powerful, and The contrast between the two platforms he d despotic, which you had established there. struck me with great force as I listened to the bene

Mr. President, when the people of the coun- Senator from New Jersey [Mr. FRELINGHUY- A n: try demand to know of their legislators why sen] some minutes since, as he read one of the well civil law is subordinated to military law, why sections of the Chicago platform declaring that

but the judge upon the bench is stripped of bis the public debt must be paid in accordance | belie robes of office, and in his stead there is sub- with the letter and the spirit of the law. What stituted a military commander to decide upon does that mean? My colleague would say, I the rights of the people; when they demand have no doubt, that means one thing, and secti to know why in secret commission and military the Senator from New Jersey would claim court the citizen is tried for a criminal offense, that it means another, a very different thing. || dere or touching a civil right, why these things are Many Senators claim that the spirit of the law

whet done in this country in a time of profound is that the bonds shall all be paid in gold; those peace, some grave and weighty answer must while other Senators, eminentand clear-headed,

with be given them.

say that it means they shall be paid in green- tions. They will want to know why it is that you backs, if Congress chooses so to pay them.

Of pretend for the time to repudiate on the part The resolution of the Democratic conven: Presi of Congress the right to establish negro suf- tion is as follows:

He frage in the northern States and yet establish “Payment of the public debt of the United States brand it in the southern States; why it is that you as rapidly as practicable; all moneys drawn from

posse rally upon a platform attempting to avoid the the people by taxation, except so much as is requi

Taler sito for the neces-ities of the Government, economiresponsibility of this issue at home, and yet || cally administered, being honestly applied to such would seek to establish such a system of suf- payment; and where the obligations of the Govern

Army frage in ten of the States of the South ; and

ment do not expressly state upon their face, or the

law under which they were issued does not provide what answer will you give? Do you tell the that they shall be paid in coin, they ought in right, people of the North that they are not inter- and in justice, bo paid in the lawful money of the

guard United States." ested in the question of suffrage in the south

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The resolution declares that, unless the obli- been for this fall it may occur that the negro votes gation issued by the Government, or the law

expre of the South will decide the presidential elec- authorizing its issue, expressly provides that tion. It may occur that a majority of the elect- it is to be paid in gold it may be paid in law. be he oral votes in the North will be overcome by | ful money. the negro votes of the South. It may not so The law authorizing the issue of the five- agains occur; but yet if it does occur, and if the col- twenties provided for a lawful money, and which pred people of the southern States, holding the declares Treasury notes, with the legal-tender that balance of political power in this country, shall clause, to be lawful money; and neither the reviei decide who is to be the President and the Vice law nor the obligation provides that these bonds itself President of the United States, is not that shall be paid in gold. coming home, as a practical and direct ques- Governor Seymour stands upon this plat- l of rec tion, to every northern man; his vote being form, and I claim that the platform explains You ! overcome by the vote of the colored man of itself, and standing upon the platform his

to det the South, and that, too, by an act of Con- | position is not and cannot be misunderstood. Mr. gress? So that the people of the North will I had thought of reading one or two other of intere: want to understand how it is that you pretend the resolutions adopted at New York, in con- of this not to force upon them negro suffrage at home, trast with the resolutions adopted at Chicago, that th and yet establish it in ten of the States of the to show that at New York positions were South.

assumed plainly, distinctly, directly, so that jection The people will want to know why, in a time the people could not be misled by anything that supren of peace, the rights of the citizen have been was there said. But, sir, as would likely | author trampled under foot, and the ancient writs of take more time than I am able to occupy this the law which protect and secure them in their morning, I will not go further in that direction. property and in their personal liberty have With a platform explicit and direct upon all

Mr. been abrogated; why it is that instead of the the great questions that now attract public Mr. courts of law where men are heard face to face, attention, it only remains to inquire who are the witnesses called face to face, the jury from the men that stand upon it. I need not, in from tl the neighborhood hearing all the evidence, addressing either the Senate or the country, cellane deciding the case, why that mode of trial in occupy much time in speaking of Governor

Mr. court has been abolished, and in its stead has Seymour. He has been long known to the been established the military court, where there country as one of the first of her statesmen. are none of the guards and securities for jus- A ripe scholar and profound thinker, in times Mr. tice that a thousand years of experience have and in positions of great difficulty he has done followii shown to be essential? the State much service. He has filled posi

The ci Mr. President, the two parties into which tions the highest in this country except that to the people of this country are now divided which he has been nominated, and to which, in bill (II.

dry civil have declared their platforms of principles; | my judgment, he will be elected. A states

ending) they have put their tickets in nomination; and man cool in thought and efficient in action he it is for the people now to decide which set of will command the confidence of the country.

Houses, principles they will adopt, and which set of I know that criticisms have been made upon

That t candidates they will elect. Upon this subject || his conduct during the war. I am glad that it numbere I have but very few remarks to submit. requires but a sentence to answer all criticisms.

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their disi In my opposition to the ticket that was nom. So efficient was he as the Executive of the great numbere inated at Chicago I never expect to place it State of New York, in the raising of troops, 59, 60, ar upon personal grounds. I recognize the gen- and especially in the aid he gave to the Gov

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the first tleman at the head of that ticket as an emi- ernment about the time of the battle of Getnent military man, and his associate as a dis- tysburg, that Mr. Lincoln returned him, in the

said am tinguished civilian. Against them, personally, most earnest and emphatic manner, his thanks.

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at the en I expect never to express a sentiment. I He is an eastern man, but he is acceptable following oppose their election because they have become, to the Northwest. We know from the senti- letter-pr by acquiescing in their nomination, the repre- ments that he has always expressed that he

Departm sentatives of the sentiments that have con- is not a sectional man. He is a man who, at

where, e trolled Congress for the last three years; the head of this Government, will recognize

which in because they stand upon a platform which is all sections, and respect and labor to promote

ment.

That ti objectionable in part and equivocal in part. the interests of each. While the chief Exec.

the seven The convention at New York has expressed || utive of the State of New York he favored,

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said amendinent insert the words "two hundred and records, and drawings, and all other moneys received thought that it would be done to better adranseventy-five;" and the Senate ngree to the same. by virtue of said ofico, and of all moneys expended That the House recede from their disagreeinent to by him under and by virtue of this provision for said

tage in private establishments. Now, upon the tenth amendment of the Senate and agree to the contingent and miscellaneous expenses and for sal

an apprehension that there was some contract sape, with an amendinent, as follows: strike out of aries, and the names of persons to whom such salarios about to be made on the Pacific coast, which said Senate amendment the words "and eight;" and are paid and the amounts thereof paid to each." the Senato agree to the same.

That the House recede from their disagreement to

was prejudicial to the general policy of the That the llouse recede from their disagreement to the sixty-seventh amendment of the Senate, and

Government and the general interests of the the twelfth amendment of the Senate and agree to agree to the same, with an amendment, as follows: miners particularly, a bill passed the House the same, with the following verbal amendment: at the end of said amendment add the following: strike out of said amendment the word "Califor- Provided, That no part of this property shall be sold

of Representatives such as I have referred to; nia," where it occurs, and insert the word "Califor- or transferred without the consent of the United

and this proposition in this bill is made in some nia' after the word "vicinity." States first bad and received.".

sense to meet what are supposed to be the That the Ilouse recede froin their disagreement to

L. M. MORRILL, the thirteenth amendment of the Senate, and agree

reasonable expectations or demands on the

J. HARLAN, to the same, with the following aneudments: strike

C. COLE,

part of the House who passed that bill. Asit out the word “two" in line one of said amendment

Managers on the part of the Senate. now stands, it will be seen that the laws on aud insert in lieu thereof the word "one;" and strike *8" from the word "tenders" in line two; and in

E. B. WASHBURNE, this subject remain as beretofore ; but the line three of said amendincnt strike out the word

B. F. BUTLER,
J. B. BECK,

Secretary of the Treasury is prohibited from cigary" and insert the word “forty;" and ihe Sen

Managers on the part of the House, making any contract for refining. Whether ate agree to the same,

That the House recede from their disagreement to Mr. MORRILL, of Maine. I perhaps ought she ever had that power I do not know; or the sixteenth amendment of the Senate and agree to to make a statement in regard to two or three

whether he ever undertook to exercise that the same, with an amendment, its follows: strike out of said amendment the word "billy" and insert in points of this report, which provide matters of

power I do not know. I suppose that the lieu tbereof the words "twenty-five;" and the Sen- legislation outside of an appropriation, which policy that has existed since 1833 will continue ate agree to the same,

I should like the Senate to understand so that to exist under these statutes, so that where at That the Ilouso recede from their disagreement to the seventeenth amendment of the Senate and agree hereafter it may not be said that they were

any mint or branch mint it is found that a to the same, with the following amendinent: in lieu taken by surprise. As a general thing I am private establishment is refining under circumof the words stricken out by said amendment insert opposed to legislating on these appropriation

stances more favorable to the Goveroment the following: "Five of the six steam revenue-cutters stationed upon the northern and northwestern bills, and I should be very glad for the relief

than it could be done by the Government, still lakes and their iributaries shall be laid un, and that of the committee if the rule of the Senate was that policy would be pursued. That is all no more of the money appropriated by this act shall be paid on their account than so much as may be

the same as that of the House of Representatives there is of that. necessary for their safe and proper care and keeping, that no matter of legislation should be put Then we make a change in regard to the and that;" and the Senate agree to the same. upon these bills; but it is otherwise, and the | Patent Office fund, which is a radical change

That the llouse recede from their disagreement to practice is otherwise. What I want to call the and which the Senate ought to understand. the twenty-third amendment of the Senate and agree to the saine, with an amendment, as follows: strike

attention of the Senate to, and particularly of This provision provides that the Patent Office out of said apendment the words "seventy-five" the Committee on Finance, is the first amend. fund so called, a fund arising from established and insert in lieu thereof the word "fifty;" and the

ment, which is in the appropriation for the ne- fees in that department, shall be covered into Senate agree to the same.

That the blouse recede from their disagreement to cessary expenses of carrying into effect several the Treasury of the United States. That is the twenty-fourth amendment of the Senate, and acts of Congress authorizing loans. The Sen- the amount of that. I understand the fund to agree to the same, with an awendmont, as follows: at the end of said awendment add the following:

ate agreed to appropriate $1,500,000. The be about a quarter of a million dollars; and Provilleil, That said building, when completed, shall conference committee agreed to a reduction

all the funds which shall arise from fees in coat not more than $100,000;" and the Senate agree of $250,000 upon the ground that there has that establishment hereafter are to be paid into to the same. That the Ilouse recede from their disagreement to

been so much reduction in the expenditures the Treasury of the United States, and the twenty-eighth amendinent of the Senate, and under the tax bill that possibly that may be $250,000 is appropriated out of the Treasury agree to the same, with an amendment, as follows: sufficient; but we have agreed to that with an for the payment of the current expenses of the at the end of said amendment add the following: amendment relative to the printing in that

establishment. This branch of the service is ** Provided, That the Mint of the United States and branches shall continue to refine gold and silver bui- department which is now very large. We entirely, I may say, conducted at the discre: lion, and no contract to exchango crude or imported have no means of estimating it; it is not so

tion of the Commissioner of Patents. I do bullion for refined bars shall be made until authorized by law;" and the Senate agree to the same.

large of course as the printing establishment not know that there are any complaints against That the blouse recede from their disagreement to

proper, but it has grown to very large dimen- the Commissioner of Patents now, or that there the twenty-ninth amendment of the Senate, and sions ; in that establishment a great deal of have been heretofore of any abuses. But it is agree to the same with an amendment, ils follows:

printing for all the Departments and all the strike out of said amendment the words "five thou

a very extraordinary exercise of discretion to sand" and insert in licu thereof the words "twenty

bureaus, of a character over which Congress be deposited in any Department or bureau of five inundred;" and at the end of said amendment has not the slightest control, is done; and the the Government. This establishment, fron add the following words: “to be expended under the cost of it of course we have no information direction of the Commissioner of the General Land

very small beginnings, beginning, I think, with Ollice;" and the Senato agree to the same.

about, and the expense of which it is impossi- a Commissioner and two or three clerks, has That the Senate recede from their disagreement to ble for us to tell. . This is a proposition that the amendment of the llouse to the thirty-first

now grown up so that the expenditure the last amendment of the Senate, and agree to the same.

all the letter-press printing and binding for the year was between six and seven hundred thoThat the House recedo froin their disagrecinent to Departments and bureaus hereafter shall be sand dollars, all collected and disbursed the forty-third amendment of the Senate and agree done at the general printing establishment of entirely in the discretion of the Commissioner. to the same, with the following amendment: strike

the Government, except in relation to the bindout of said amendinent the word “five;" and the

He receives it all and disburses and expends Senate agree to the same.

ing of the registered bonds and blank books that it all, with no oversight or supervision from That the House recede from their disagreement to are peculiar to this department and bureau, and the forty-fourth amendment of the Senate and agree

any quarter, not even under the direction of which may more appropriately be done there. to the same with an amendment, as follows; strike

the Secretary of the Interior. But then I say, out of said amendment the word "five," and insert That is one point. Another is in regard to in justice to the present incumbent and his in lieu thereof the word "twenty;" and the Senate the mints. It may have been noticed that predecessors, that I know of no complaint. agree to the same. That the House recede from their disagreement to

there is a provision in one of the amendments Still this fund has grown to sach dimensions the forty-fifth amendment of the Senate and agree that the relining of gold shall continue to be and the discretion is so very great that, in to the same, with an amendment as follows: strike done in the Mint and branch mints in the justice to the officer himself and the departout of said amendment the word “twenty;" and in lieu thereof insert the word

country, and that no contract shall be made by ment itself, it would seem that the money as

ten.' That the flouse recede from their disagreement to the Secretary of the Treasury to the contrary ;

it arises should go into the Treasury of the the fifty-first amendment of the Senate and agree to that is, he shall be authorized to make no con

United States and be paid out under such lim. the same, with an amendment as follows: at the end

tract by which the refining shall cease to be of said Senate amendinent add the following: " to

itations and conditions as apply to other funds. pay William H. West for services rendered in taking done in the mints. I way be permitted to As this is so radical a change and upon an care of and keeping safely the bonds held in trust remark, perhaps, that yesterday a bill passed appropriation bill

, I thought it my duty to start by the Secretary of the Treasury for the benefit of the

the House of Representatives repealing the Smithsonian Institution from March 1, 1850, to July

thus much to the Senate ihat hereafter it shall 1, 1863, $2,500, to be paid out of the Smithsonian laws on the subject of refining in the Mint not be said that they were taken by surprise. fund;" and the Senato agree to the same. and branch mints of this country. The law

Mr. SHERMAN. I wish to ask the Senator That ihe Senate reccdc from their disagreement to stands in this wise: in 1853 an act was passed the amendment of the House to the sixty-second

a question as to the construction to be placed amendment of the Senate, and agree to the same. authorizing the director of the Mint at Phila

on one of these amendments. I am not familiar That the House reccde from their disagreement to delphia, whenever a private establishment was the sixty-third amendment of the Senate, and agreo

with the technical language in which these procapable of doing the refining then being done to the same, with amendments as follows: strike out

visions have been made; but the first proviso all of said amendment after the word "office." in at the Mint, to cease refining at the Mint. added is that all necessary letter press print: Jine seven, and insert in licu thereof the following: In 1861 this provision was extended to all Provided, That all the moneysstanding to the credit branch mints, so that it came to be regarded | and bureaus shall be done and executed at the

ing and book binding in all the Departments of sioner of Patents, and all moneys hereafter received as the settled policy of the Government that it Government Printing Office and not elsewhere

; at the Patent Office for any purpose or from any was not worth while for the Government to do except registered bonds and written records source whatever, shall be paid into the Treasury as received, without any reduction whatever, and the the refining in the Mint and branch mints,

may be bound, as heretofore, at the Departsum of $250,000 is hereby appropriated for salaries provided it could be done by private estab. ment.'

That applies to all printing except and miscellaneous and contingent expenses of the lishments. The Committee on Appropriations Patent Ofice and for withdrawals and for moneys

that connected with money. The tax law now paid by inistako, to be disbursed under the direction

were not very well informed on this subject, under consideration contemplates the possiof the Secretary of the Interior; and it shall be the but it seems to have been the policy since 1853

bility of new stamps which are really in the duty of the Commissioner of Patents to communicato to discountenance the refining of bullion in the to Congress at the commencement of overy Decom

nature of Government bills, being printed at ber session a full and detailed account of money public establishments of the Government, for

the Treasury Department for safely. I ask received for duties on patents, and for copies of what reason I do not know; probably it was whether this would prevent that?

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