more. this District of Columbia to take care of the || But I presume none of them did so consider || especially desirable on his part to remain in District only, with full staffs. The President, it. If we intend to reduce the Army, if that the service, while the position of the officers is the Commander-in-Chief, is one, the General is our intention in good faith-and I hope that a position for life--a position for which they of the Army another, the Secretary of War we do intend it-it is not right for us to com. have prepared themselves by years of study. still another, the Commissioner of the Freed- mence by cutting off the private soldiers, and Mr. WASHBURN, of Indiana. Do not men's Bureau is another, General Hancock, leaving the great army of generals drawing their commissions run during the pleasure of commander of the military division, is another, their pay of $3,000, $5,000, or $6,000 a year the President? General Emory, the commander of the depart- each, with staffs around them drawing as much Mr. PILE. They do; but the practical ment of Washington, is another, General al construction of that, as the gentleman very lace, the commander of the garrison of Wash- It is wrong to have in service officers for well knows, is that unless the officer is guilty ington, is another; there are, therefore, seven whom we have no use. This bill proposes to of some misconduct for which he is amenable general headquarters' to take care of this Dis. reduce the Army to twenty-five thousand men. under the rules and articles of war, and is sentrict in time of peace, and, I believe, from Now, the chairman of the Committee on Mili- tenced to dismissal by a court-martial, the twelve to fifteen generals on duty here in various tary Affairs [Mr. GARFIELD] was himself at President cannot dismiss him. Though the ways. A friend suggests nineteen. I always one time a general in the Army; and I should commission nominally runs during the pleasunderrate in my statements. be glad if he would tell me by what rule of the ure of the President, it is a commission for Now, sir, that being so, I desire that we Army it will require a general, a lieutenant- life unless the officer by misconduct renders shall come down somewhere near a peace general, four major generals, ten brigadier gen- himself liable to dismissal by the judgment of establishment, and I know of no man better || erals, and twelve staffs to command twenty-five a court-martial. situated to designate who shall hold these thousand troops. Both he and I in our military Mr. WASHBURN, of Indiana. Do I uncommissions of major generals than the Gen. | experience, have known that number of men to derstand the gentleman to say that Congress eral of the Army. be commanded by a far less number of generals cannot control this subject ? I propose to follow up this amendment by an without any major generals whatever except Mr. PILE. Certainly, Congress has power amendment providing that, instead of ten brig. at the head. There is no necessity in time of over the whole subject. It can abolish these adier generals, there shall be only six, to be peace for such a body of officers as this bill officers; it can do away with the army entirely ; selected in the same way. This bill provides proposes. These officers ought not to con- but the President has no such power. for only twenty-five thousand soldiers, and three sider it a hardship that their services are dis- [Here the hammer fell.] major generals and a lieutenant general are pensed with. No man ought to consider it a Mr. CARY. I move to strike out the word amply sufficient to take charge of twenty-five hardship that, when the country does not “General” and to insert “the President of thousand men ; and those are twice as many || require his services, it shall say so. I know the United States." Mr. Speaker, I see no general officers as are employed with a like that when my country required my services no reason why this duty should be devolved upon number of troops in the best European armies. | longer I was informed of the fact, and that the General of the Army any more than upon A friend near me says that he would give was enough for me. It ought to be enough || the Lieutenant General; but I do see a mani. them six months. Why? Did you give any || for everybody in such a position. It was enough || fest propriety in it being assigned to the Presi. six months to the volunteer generals after they for many men who are now on this floor. dent of the United States, he being the Comwere no longer wanted? When you get through I do not know what is the present number of mander-in-Chief. I am not disposed to occupy with them they go out at once. The most of our Army; but this bill proposes that when the | my five minutes. It seems to me the propriety them knew, too, where to go. We of the vol- number of officers shall be reduced those re- of the amendment is apparent. unteer service asked no favors. I am willing | lieved from duty shall be put on a retired list. Mr. MUNGEN. I ask my colleague to to give those officers sixty days after this act I am not in favor of that. I am in favor of | yield me the remainder of his time. shall pass. They have all been educated, with mustering out of service those officers for Mr. CARY. I yield to my colleague. one exception, at the expense of the Govern. whose services the Government has no occa- Mr. MUNGEN. If I understand the amendment. They were given a first-rate education sion. There is no more justice in putting an ment of the gentleman from Massachusetts in at the expense of their country. They are all unnecessary officer on half pay than there is extending the operation of this law to the 1st wanted as engineers of railroads and on other in putting upon half pay a private who is no of January—and I should like to know whether public works. They can all be employed and be longer needed. This bill contemplates that the that is not the fact-it is to save General Grant, of some use, which they are not now, although i privates shall be mustered out. They are to provided he should not be elected President that is not their fault. I hope, therefore, my be turned loose without a dollar, for there is || by the people of the United States. amendment will be adopted. not one in a thousand who has a dollar within Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. No, sir. [Here the hammer fell.] a few weeks after receiving his pay. The pri- Mr. MUNGEN. Does this leave General Mr. GARFIELD. I hope the House will vates are to be turned loose upon the country Grant and Lieutenant General Sherman in not adopt the amendment of the gentleman | without occupation, while at the same time you their present positions ? from Massachusetts, [Mr. BUTLER.) propose to retain in service almost an army of Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. Yes, sir. Mr. MULLINS. I do hope they will. general officers for whom the country has no Mr. MUNGEN. I would as soon leave them Mr. GARFIELD. In the first place, it is a occasion. No man who is truly a patriot will, out as any private soldier. very ungracious task which the Committee on when his services are dispensed with, in order Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. One of Military Affairs have felt it their duty to per to reduce the burdens of the people, and be. || them will go out next March. form, to cut down so large a number of persons cause those services are no longer required, Mr. SCHENCK. I rise to oppose the in official positions as this bill proposes; and say, “I have done service for any country and amendment. Mr. Speaker, it seems to be a fore. particularly in the case of persons who have my country has forgotten me; and in its for: gone conclusion that there is to be some reducperformed so distinguished services as have | getfulness has inflicted disgrace upon itself and tion of the Army. When we do come to a been performed by the officers embraced in a great wrong upon me. No man with proper decision of that sort it seems to me we should this section. There are five major generals self-respect and proper love for his country || approach the subject with a consideration looknow in the Army: Halleck, Meade, Sheridan, will say that. For these reasons I am in favor ing to all the interests involved both of public George H. Thomas, and Hancock. Now, tó of the amendment of the gentleman from and private citizens affected by our action. require the General of the Army to select two Massachusetts, and I hope it will be adopted. Now, sir, it strikes me the mode proposed by of them to be stricken from the rolls, to let the Mr. PILE.' Mr. Speaker, I rise to oppose the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Bur. burden, and especially what odium there might | the amendment to the amendment. The theory || LER] would be an exceedingly harsh one. I be in that selection rest upon the General of of this bill is that supernumerary officers shall | do not pretend to say Congress may not abol. the Army, I think would not be treating him be retained until vacancies occur in their grade, lish the office of major general, or reduce the fairly, nor would it be treating fairly the offi- and that subordinate officers below the rank number of major generals. I am inclined to cers who now occupy these positions. With- of brigadier general shall be placed upon a list think hereafter in our Army three will be out undertaking to debate this matter further, to be relieved and put upon half pay. I am in enough in any organization we propose to keep I ask for a vote on the amendment. favor of mustering out of service such major up. But what is the amendment? That here. Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. I modify | generals and brigadier generals as we have no after there shall be three major generals; that my amendment so that it shall read “on the further occasion for. If we are to adopt the is, after the 1st of January next, and those 1st day of January next," instead of "sixty rule that supernumerary officers throughout all three shall be designated by the General of the days after the passage of this act." the lower grades of the Army shall be mustered | Army. I suppose there are to be three selected The question was on the amendment, as modi. | out, it certainly would not be proper to retain from the present five, but the amendment does fied. the supernumerary major generals and briga- not say so. Mr. LOGAN. I move to amend the amend. dier generals. Hence I shall regard the vote Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. Yes, it ment by striking out the last word for the pur- upon this amendment as a test of the sense of does. pose of saying a word in reply to what has the House upon the question whether these Mr. SCHENCK. The selection, then, is to been said by the chairman of the Committee supernumeraries shall be retained or whether be made from the present five major generals. on Military Affairs, [Mr. GARFIELD.] I do all supernumeraries shall be mustered out. Who are they? Halleck, Meade, Sheridan, not look upon this as being so great a hard- There is, as has been suggested by the gentle || Thomas, and Hancock. I am not an especial ship as some men seem to consider it. A man from Illinois, [Mr. Logan,) a distinction admirer of General Halleck. I have regarded great many men might have considered it a between the position of the officer and that of him always as a paper general, if I may make hardship, after they had served as generals in the private soldier in this respect: the private a criticism of that kind. I do not suppose the Army for four years, and lost their business soldier is enlisted for a term of years, and his any one would think of excluding Meade, Sherat home, to be mustered out at a day's notice. pay is not supposed to be such as to make it II idan, or George H. Thomas; and I confess I We say we should be unwilling to see a harsh measure of this Now, let us see further about the argument The question was put on ordering the yeas kind extended to General Hancock, for while that these officers shall not be discharged. In || and nays; and there were 13 in the affirmative I never have believed, if he had been the for- the first place General Halleck left the Army || and 71 in the negative. tunate or unfortunate man selected for defeat before the war and went into the law to serve So (one fifth not voting in the affirmative) with any of the chances tendered to him by the his own interests after he had been educated the yeas and nays were not ordered. convention at New York, he would or would at the public expense. I have nothing to say Mr. BOYER. I would inquire if a quorum not have made much of a President; yet he against him. But when he was in the Army voted ? has proved himself a respectable soldier. Now, he wrote two or three military books. I do The SPEAKER. It does not need a quorum. these five men entered in boyhood the public not pretend to say whether he is a man to be By constitutional provision one fifth of those service in the profession of arms and have con- selected to be discharged or not. I am not present can order the yeas and nays. If there tinued up to this time. They have been put || going to discuss personally any of these officers. were only fifteen members present three could upon an increased establishment as compared I only say that if we cannot begin here with || order the yeas and nays. with what existed before the war. It is now our reduction--with these general officers- The amendment was disagreed to. proposed that they shall be thrust out of service if there is not nerve enough in this Congress The question recurred on the amendment in their comparatively old age in this manner, to stand up here and now, you might as well offered by Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts, as a without provision. I object to it. If there has throw this bill into the fire and go home. substitute for the fourth section. been any wrong in promoting them, in advanc- What is our proposition? To strike out Mr. GARFIELD. I will ask if the gentle. ing them until we have more of these officers these generals ? Out from what ? Simply man will not consent to let the vote be taken than we need, the wrong has not been theirs. because they are no longer needed for the ser- to-morrow when we have a fuller House. They are not to be blamed for the natural vice. Seven years ago some of them were [Cries of “No!" "No!''] ambition of getting advancement. If there has || captains, quartermasters, and right glad to have The SPEAKER. The gentleman can attain been any wrong the wrong has been in Congress | those positions. At the end of six years what his object by moving to reconsider if the amendmaking this provision for them. Now, after do we propose to say to them? ment shall be adopted. Congress has done this, it seems to me the do not want to saddle the people of the coun. The question was taken on the amendment, least thing we could do would be to let them || try with your salaries any longer.” My friend and it was agreed to. down in some graceful way, considering who from Ohio agrees they are not needed ; the The Clerk then read the fifth section, as folthey are and what they have done. Military Committee agrees also; but it is said lows. Mr. LOGAN. Will the gentleman let me we must let them down easy. Sir, who will Sec.3. And be it further enacted, That no vacancy ask him a question ? let the tax burdened people down easy? Why shall hereafter be filled in the office of brigadier genMr. SCHENCK. In five minutes' time one should we pension these men ? We have edu- eral until the number of brigadier generals shall bo has not much to spare. cated them all, given them a thorough educa less than eight, and thereafter there shall be but eight brigadier generals. Mr. LOGAN. Does not the gentleman from | tion, and I was about to say if they cannot Ohio know that quite a number of officers who make a living, what are our poor volunteers Mr. ALLISON. I move to amend the secwere educated at West Point, and served in to do who left their homes and their colleges, tion by striking out the word "eight,”' in the the Army as major generals and brigadier | with their education unfinished, and went into two places where it occurs, and inserting five." generals, have heen compelled to return to the the war, and having fought it through were The amendment was agreed to. positions of captains and lieutenants ? then thrust out of the Army without education, Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. I move Mr. SCHENCK. Certainly I do ; but that without preparation, without position, without I to strike out all after the enacting words of the does not make the slightest reply to my argu- any saving clause whatever, many of them section and to insert in lieu thereof what I send ment. These men are now regularly in the without arms or without legs, and with gaping || to the desk. service by the action of Congress, obtaining / wounds? You gave them fifteen dollars a The Clerk read as follows : advancement as it has been held open to them, month at most, but when you come to the man There shall be but six brigadier generals, and the and this amendment proposes to thrust them who is receiving $12,000 or $15,000 a year you officers who sball retain their commissions as such shall be designated by the General of the Army out without provision, without half pay, with- must treat him very gently. Why? Because without regard to seniority, and all others shall be out retirement, with only the general declara- he has somebody here to speak for him. mustered out of service on the 1st day of January tion, “Begone, we have no further need of Now let us have it understood, if we proyour services." I am not ready for that. I pose to pass this bill let us begin with the pow. Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. I do not prefer that we shall gradually let ourselves erful men, these major generals, and deal with care to debate it. down from that point to which we extended them first, not harshly, but simply say to them, Mr. SCHENCK. I do. I propose to op: our legislation, if we are to take a back track 66 Your services are no longer needed; you pose it. Mr. Speaker, all the answer that I upon it; and in letting ourselves down, that have done well; we give you full recognition need to make to what is insisted upon by the while we take care of the public interest, we of your services; we have done so by continu. gentleman from Massachusetts [Mr. Butler] shall at the same time try not to do any injus- || ing you in your places more than three years and others in reply to what I have before said tice to those who served the country. after the war is ended with nothing for you to of the injustice of this summary mode of pro[Here the hammer fell.] do; we have had to make military provision ceeding considered in a proper light, they have The SPEAKER. The question recurs on for you by giving you commands, but from this answered themselves by going for the first two the amendment of the gentleman from Ohio, time you, as military officers, with your staffs sections of the bill. By their votes they admit Mr. Cary.] or military households are to cease. that a General is not needed in the organization Mr. WILSON, of Iowa. I propose to per [Here the hammer fell.] proposed for the Army. By their votes they fect the text. Mr. GARFIELD. I rise to oppose the also admit that a Lieutenant General is not The SPEAKER. That is in order. amendment, and to say simply before making needed. But, by their votes they say that in Mr. WILSON, of Iowa. I move to strike a motion, that it is the opinion of the commit- the case of the General they will wait until a out “four” in both instances where it occurs tee that these officers vacancy occurs and then there shall be no future and insert "three;'' so that the section will The SPEAKER. Debate is exhausted on General appointed; and by their votes they say read: the amendment. that in the case of the Lieutenant General, they That no vacancies shall hereafter be filled in the Mr. WILSON, of Iowa. I withdraw the will let him continue in office until a vacancy office of major general until the number of major amendment to enable the gentleman to renew it. occurs and then no successor shall be ap. generals shall be less than three, and thereafter there shall be but three major generals. Mr. GARFIELD. I renew it. It will take pointed. The very principle, therefore, for some time to reduce the Army as provided in which I contend as being the principle that I only say in support of this that I fully conthis bill, and during that time a large number pervades this bill, they themselves have suge cur in the remark of the gentleman from Ohio, tained in the first and second sections of the [Mr. Schenck,) as to the principle of reducing || the large departments we now have and the of experienced officers are certainly needed in bill. If it be right as to the General, if it be the Army; and, entertaining that view, I move extended number of posts. There are nearly not wrong as to the Lieutenant General, then to reduce the number of major generals to three. twelve hundred separate military posts now surely and on principle it is as right and as Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. I rise to occupied by troops of the United States. And far from wrong as applied to major generals oppose the amendment. Now, sir, let us see in addition to the reasons given, we thought it or to brigadier generals. what is proposed. We cannot strike out any. would be violent and almost in bad faith to Mr. LOGAN We want a head of the body here who does not find a friend to uphold | strike down the officers at once. Army. him. We cannot strike out any provision in the Army bill without disturbing the gentleman | debate on this section. Having said these few words, I move to close Mr. SCHENCK. The gentleman says we want a head of the Army. Suppose that be who is the author of it; for he always stands The motion was agreed to. SO; you have the by his child. Now, I want to call the attention Lieutenant General for the head of the Army ; of the House to the provisions of the bill. It The question was taken on the amendment if you abolish the Lieutenant General you have proposes to keep these men in office until they of Mr. WILSON, of Iowa, (renewed by Mr. GARdie. They never resign. the senior major-general; if you abolish the They are of an averFIELD,) and it was agreed to. major generals you have the senior brigadier age age of perhaps forty-five. They are good The question was next on the motion of Mr. general; and so on. Therefore that considfor thirty years longer. Now, it is proposed Cary, to amend the substitute for the section eration is entitled to no weight. Do what you to pass a measure called a bill for the reduc- offered by Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts, by may, you still have a head of the Army ; tion of the Army. If we pass this hill as it | striking out “General of the Army” and muster out or retain, in either case there stands it will be no reduction, but a reductio ad inserting "President of the United States." would be some officer remaining senior to all absurdum. Mr. BOYER demanded the yeas and nays. the rest. So that does not answer my propo next. : a General that it is not applied to them ; or that have ten brigadier Generalitavi propose major the Army of the United States, which I believe an act sition. All I contend for is this: enter upon and this was a sufficient reason if we had no profession of his life, he becomes, after a time, your business of reducing the Army, and if | other. So we do keep the Lieutenant General | unfitted for other pursuits. Not so in any these men are to be put aside, who have re- until there is a vacancy. other department of the Government to any. tained their positions under your laws, with Mr. SCHENCK. We are always to keep thing like the same extent. A man who lives advancement provided for them, some little him, according to that. many years in the Army cannot go to business. provision ought to be made for them in their Mr. BUTLER,of Massachusetts. The answer He is out of the range of employments which old age, either in the shape of half-pay, or to that is a very plain one. “Sufficient unto belong to civil life. It seems to me, there. else apply to the brigadier and major generals | the day is the evil thereof." We are now fore, to be a just principle recognized in Eng: the same principle that you apply to the Gen. | making a peace establishment for the present. land, recognized in France, recognized in all eral and Lieutenant General in this bill. I will We think that in the course of forty years there the civilized nations of the world, that an offi. not assume that it was because it was sup. || may be a necessity for a change. The difficulty cer of the army shall be treated with some posed it might, perhaps, be unpopular io is that gentlemen here do not want any change, special regard in reference to his tenure of apply such a rule to the general or Lieutenant | if I may say so, under forty years. Now, we office. shall be it was applied to these others because it was Why? three supposed it would reach a class of officers | generals, there should be two brigades and two to day has no peer on the face of the earth; among whom would be found, in the first | brigadier generals to a division. My own belief an Army made up of men who have won fame grade, one or two over whose removal we is that one major general is sufficient and two on many battle-fields, and in a manner most would shed no tears, or, in the second grade, brigadier generals for the whole Army. But, | honorable to our country. They took their five or six over whom none of us would weep. if I should propose that it would be considered places in the Army as now constituted with Yet it does look so. very harsh; and I have to do the best I can the distinct understanding that they were fixed Now, if we do not want a General, if we do when I cannot do as I would. Therefore, I and permanent places. Why, sir, in the bill not want a Lieutenant General, why not apply have agreed to propose three major generals which passed when my colleague[Mr.SCIENCE] your rule of at once reducing the Army by get- and six brigadier generals, a great number. was chairman of the Committee on Military ting rid of these still higher officers, who, if Now, I do not admit the force of the argu- || Affairs, it was declared in the title that it was anything, are wanted still less than those of ment of my friend, the chairman of the commit. to fix the military peace establishment the lower grades? The suggestion of the gen- tee, when he says that there are twelve hundred of the United States." Every man who took tleman from Illinois [Mr. LOGAN] that you posts. There ought to be nine hundred and position under that law understood it was a would not then have a head to the Army, is no fifty less. And I will venture to say that none part of the fixed and permanent establisbment. answer to the proposition, because, reduce the of these generals have seen one third of those Every man now holding a commission in the Army as you may, there would still be some posts within the last year. That being so they Army holds it as he understood at the begin. officer senior to all the rest who would be the are absolutely of no use. Why, then, should ) ning as a commission which shall not be affected accepted head of the Army. It must be, there- we pension them? If you will pension your except by decision of court-martial upon his fore, that it is not thought advisable to apply judges, if you will pension your collectors of own merits or demerits. Now, to say that these the same rule to one class of officers that you internal revenue, especially if you will pen- commissions shall be vacated, that these men propose to apply to the others, yet I cannot sion all the civil officers of this Government shall be thrown out, is to violate all the cusunderstand why the distinction should be drawn. when they get to a certain age and you turn toms of civilized nations, and all the customs I am not opposing the reduction of the Army. them out, then I may vote for pensioning these of our own during all our history. I am not seeking to preserve what the gentle. || military officers. That is the English system, [Here the hammer fell.] man from Massachusetts [Mr. BUTLER] seems I know; and I fear we are fast verging toward The question was upon the amendment to to think my own peculiar child. I have my it. When men are once fastened on the coun: the amendment. own opinion in regard to the reduction or the || try it is very hard to get rid of them. But our Mr. GARFIELD. I hope by unanimous enlargement of the Army. I have my own theory of Government has been that a man is consent all further debate on this section will opinion in regard both to the officers and the called into the service of the Government when be closed. privates. I will not enter into a controversy as we want him, and that he goes out when we Mr. PAINE. I hope not; I wish to say & io who sympathizes most or least with the pri- | get through with him. word. I leave that for every soldier who ever [Here the hammer fell.] Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. I with. served under me to decide for himself. Mr. GARFIELD. Mr. Speaker, in answer draw the amendment to the amendment. [Here the hammer fell.] to what has been said by the gentleman from Mr. PAINE, I offer the following amendMr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. I move Massachusetts, [Mr. Butler,] I desire to say to amend the amendment pro forma by strik: that his argument in favor of retaining the The Clerk read as follows: ing out the last word. This is not a new Lieutenant General, if good at all, is good in Add the following: dilemma for us to be in. After the late war with favor of always having a Lieutenant General, There shall be but six brigadier generals after the Great Britain, Scott and Gaines were both so as to have a recognized head of the Army, 31st day of March 1869, and the officers who shall major generals. They claimed rights against not an officer who can be assigned by the retain their commissions as such shall, after the tenth day of March, 1869, be designated by the President each other, which finally led to an open quar President of the United States at his pleasure. of the United States without regard to seniority, and rel between them. To compose that quarrel, One word in regard to the section now under all others shall be mustered out of the service on the John Quincy Adams hunted up General Ma- consideration. There are now ten brigadier 31st of March, 1869. comb, who was almost paralyzed, and put him generals. We have many different kinds of Mr. PAINE. Mr. Speaker, I hope I should in command, in order to have a senior officer military duty to be performed, requiring offi- never for one monent be willing to say or do to compose the difficulties between Scott and cers of considerable rank. If the proposition anything upon this floor or elsewhere which Gaines. He also made two great_military | presented by the gentleman from Massachu- would seem to involve a want of appreciation departments-the department of the East and setts should prevail, we shall then have but six | of the services of the offices and enlisted men the department of the West, and put Scott in brigadier generals in the Army; and with our of the Army of the United States, but I cannot one and Gaines in the other, so as to keep | great extent of country, with the military for one consent that any particular class of them apart; and to keep the peace between departments and the districts within those officers should be picked out and allowed upon them. That went on until Macomb 'died. departments, we should not have a general | this floor to monopolize the fruits and results Then came the Mexican war. After the Mexi- officer to command each leading department of all the honor and all the merit which at. can war, the same trouble arose between Wool and sub-department. tached to the entire Army during the war. I and Scott. Scott was made Lieutenant General In addition to that, let me say once for all cannot be satisfied to hear my friend behind by brevet-he being at the time a major gen: that it has been the purpose of the Committee me [Mr. GARFIELD] say, when so many men eral-and Wool was made a major general by on Military Affairs to reduce the Army as much served gallantly and meritoriously in the last brevet. That composed all difficulties there, as we thought the condition of the country war, that a few men shall be picked out and and gave an acknowledged head. required, while at the same time we have made the recipients of the honors and benefits Now, sir, the reason we did not strike down endeavored to avoid all invidious personal dis- which we are so ready and willing to accord to the General was that some of us have a reason. tinctions and all personal injustice. And it the great Army which crushed the late rebelable expectation that there will be a vacancy seems to me that if we require the General of lion. Let us give honor where honor is due. in the course of a few months in that office; the Army to determine which of his comrades Let us give to these men now in the Army the and then there being a vacancy in the office in arms shall be dropped from the Army and honor that is due to them, but for heaven's of General, it would not only be removing him which retained, we shall impose upon him a sake do not let us shower down upon tbeir for three months, if we put him on the same duty which we ought not to ask him to perform. heads all the honor won by the volunteer and ground as to vacating his office with the major Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. Then regular officers and soldiers from the beginning general. put it on the President. of this war to the end. We come, then, to the position of Lieutenant Mr. GARFIELD. If it is proposed to put And let us not for one moment forget the General. That officer we keep so that there it on the President of the United States, I ask provisions of the eighth section of this bill, in may be a head to the Army-an acknowledged whether gentlemen on this side of the Hall which the gentleman himself proposes to put head with authority in his own right-not an are willing that the President shall perform upon half pay all junior officers of the Army accidental head that any President may over- that duty at his discretion? who shall be thrown out of full commission as slaugh or whose orders any President may One word further. The profession of arms the result of the consolidation of regiments reverse by relieving him. This is our reason is recognized throughout the world as peculiar from sixty down to forty-one. Let us not for for retaining the office of Lieutenant General; in this : that when a man has adopted it as the get that the gentleman himself adopts in this vates. ment. a THE CONGRESSIONAL GLOBE. 3953 pleted. bill the very principle he now deprecates. He Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. What is CLERICAL FORCE STATE DEPARTMENT. says that when a man enters the Army as Gen- the use of having it? Mr. BANKS, by unanimous consent, preeral llalleck did for the second time he enters Mr. GARFIELD. I suppose every gentle- sented a communication from the Department it for life, and so understands it, and yet he man will agree that the halcyon day will never of State in relation to a deficiency in the clerproposes to cut out the oflicers of nineteen come, the glorious age will never arrive, when ical force of that Department; which was reregiments who happen, indeed, to be junior in we will not need to keep an Army; and while ferred to the Committee on Appropriations, rank, but who, I venture to say, won their commissions, in a large majority of cases, on wedo keep it the Congress of the United States, and ordered to be printed. I suppose, will endeavor to retain its valuable MOUNT VERNON LADIES' ASSOCIATION, Mr. SCHENCK. I propose to the House suggestion that I have intimated that all the to take up from the Speaker's table the bill from active service on haif pay. wisdom and glory of the late great struggle was (S. No. 588) for the relief of the Mount VerMr. GARFIELD. concentrated in the regular Army, I am not non Ladies' Association of the Union. It has No: we do not retire them. They are simply relieved temporarily, behind any gentleman in my admiration of the passed the Senate, and a large majority of the until vacancies occur. great body of citizen soldiers who won the House once agreed to pass it; but it required a Mr. PAINE. Call it by whatever name you victory and saved the nation. But I desire to suspension of the rules. say that while there are thousands of noble Nr. LAWRENCE, of Ohio. I object. will, they are virtually robbed of their com Mr. SCHENCK. As my colleague is a standing objection, I move that the House do ent Army has in it more history, more glory, now adjourn. duty. and the record of more heroism and patriot: || (at half past ten o'clock p. m.) adjourned. The motion was agreed to, and the House Nr. RAUM. There is a provision in this bill which authorizes the Secretary of War to ism than any other Army that ever existed in time of peace; and I for one, though I am PETITIONS, ETC. put the knife to the Army and reduce it nearly The following petitions, &c., were presented Mr. RAUM. fifty per cent., will not by my voice or vote under the rule, and referred to the appropriate That proviso will certainly consent that we sball strike down by the brutal committees : put very nearly all these officers on active force of numbers half the official staff of the By the SPEAKER: The petition of J. A. duty. Army, only to be under the necessity of reap- Richardson, Elizabethtown, North Carolina, Mr. PAINE. I cannot yield any longer. || pointing them in less than six months. By for removal’of political disabilities incurred by The sole effect of that is to neutralize, so far papers from the Secretary of War which I now participation in the rebellion. as it goes, the whole plan of reduction. hold in my hand, it is slown that the Army, by By Mr. ALLISON: A memorial of RosBut I must ask the attention of the House the reduction now going on by usual casual- well Bates, asking for back pension on account to one great fallacy into which my friend has ties, will by the 1st of July next have reached of services in the war of 1812. fallen. He says that when these officers twenty-eight thousand men. Officers are reentered the Army they were justified in the Also, the claim of leirs of Richard Cheney signing fast. Many who received wounds and for reimbursement on account of lands sold understanding that it would become to them a became partially incapacitated during the war by the United States. permanent position. Sir, the Constitution of the United States stands directly across the are becoming invalids. Many are leaving the By Mr. LAWRENCE, of Pennsylvania : Army for other reasons. All that is needed is The petition of General Leon and others, asktrack of the gentleman when he makes that assertion. The Constitution provides that that we simply let these patriotic men holding that the forfeited franchises of a certain their positions on half pay or in regular active railroad in Louisiana he granted to parties appropriations for the Army shall be limited service for a few months, and the Army will herein named, that the road may be comto two years; and if we do not know it from reduce itself. our study of the history of the convention which framed that instrument, yet Thomas [Here the hammer fell.] By Mr. TRIMBLE, of Kentucky: The Jefferson has told us and James Madison has Mr. LOGAN obtained the floor. petition of T. M. Davis and others, praying told us that that provision was incorporated Mr. PAINE. I will withdraw my amend. for the improvement of Cumberland bar, in ment if the gentleman will renew it. I want a for the express purpose of guarding against the Ohio river. semblance of anything like permanency in the vote upon it. military establishment; placed there for the Mr. LOGAN. I will renew it. IN SENATE. Mr. MAYNARD. Is it in order to move to express purpose of affording to either branch SATURDAY, July 11, 1868. of the Legislature an opportunity in every aujourn?. I sugest to the gentleman who lias period of two years to abolish the Army of charge of the bill that it is now nearly half past Prayer by Rev. E. H. Gray, D. D. the United States in spite of the other branch ten o'clock. We have been here for three On motion of Mr. CONNESS, and by unanof the Legislature and in spite of the Presi. hours. I dislike to make the motion without imous consent, the reading of the Journal of dent by withholding appropriations for its suphis consent. yesterday was dispensed with. port. The SPEAKER. When the gentleman from PETITIONS AND MEMORIALS. Mr. MILLER. Does the gentleman desire Illinois [Mr. LOGAN] closes his remarks a mo- Mr. POMEROY presented a petition of citto retain all those officers ? tion to adjourn will be in order. izens of Kansas, praying for the establishment Mr. PAINE. Oh, no. Mr. LOGAN. I will give way for a motion of a mail route from Waterville to Wishita ; [IIere the hammer fell.] to adjourn. which was referred to the Committee on Post Mr. GARFIELD. I would not rise now but Mr. GARFIELD. I would inquire if this Offices and Post Roads. for what seems to be a very probable misunder- bill will come up to-morrow? Mr. CONKLING presented a petition of standing, if not misrepresentation, on the part The SPEAKER. It will be the unfinished citizens of New York, praying for the passage of my friend from Wisconsin. I perfectly business ininediately after the reading of the of the bill granting pensions to the surviving recognize what the gentleman says, that the Journal. soldiers in the war of 1812 ; which was ordered Constitution of the United States provides to lie on the table, a bill on that subject hav ROCK ISLAND BRIDGE. that no appropriation for the Army shall last ing been reported from the Committee on for more than two years. The purpose of that On motion of Mr. PRICE, by unanimous Pensions. provision is that the civil shall always control consent the anvendments of the Senate to the He also presented a memorial of merchants The military establishment of the Government, joint resolution (H. R. No. 201) in relation to and importers of New York city, in relation to and the provision is made so as to give either the Rock Island bridge were taken from the the appraisement of merchandise; which was branch of Congress the power to control the Speaker's table. referred to the Committee on Finance. military establishment. But I wish to know The amendments of the Senate were read Mr. WILLEY presented the petition of Hoy if the gentleman means, by the interpretation and concurred in, as follows: McLane, of Beverly, West Virginia, praying of the Constitution he has given, to intimate for compensation for a house destroyed and that it was ever presumed ibat the Congress Page 1, line eight, after the word "island” insert the lumber thereof appropriated to the buildof the United States would abolish the Army to connect said island with the cities of Davenport and Rock Island." ing of barracks for the soldiers of the twentyaltogether? Page 2, line thirteen, after “sixty-six"insert". And eighth Ohio volunteers, in November, 1863 ; Mr. PAINE. I will answer the gentleman provided, also that in no case shall the expenditure which was referred to the Committee on Claims. on the part of the United States exceed $1,000,000.” that it was the design of the framers of the Add the following new section: Mr. WILSON presented a petition of offiConstitution to put it in the power of the Sen. Sec. 3. And be it further resolved, That any bridge cers of the Army, praying for the passage of ate alone or of the House alone at any time in built under the provisions of this resolution shall be the bill " to fix and equalize the pay of officers, constructed so as to couform to the requirements of two years to abolish the Army of the United section tro of an act entitled "An act to authorize and to establish the pay of enlisted soldiers in States in spite of the other branch or in spite the construction of certain bridges and to establish the Army;" which was referred to the Comof the President. them as post roads," approved July 25, 1866. mittee on Military Affairs and the Militia. Mr. GARFIELD. Well, I have said that Mr. PRICE moved to reconsider the vote Mr. ROSS presented resolutions of the myself just now. But does the gentleman sup- by which the amendments of the Senate were Board of Trade of Leavenworth, Kansas, in pose it was the purpose or intention of Con-concurred in: and also moved that the motion favor of the racilication of the treaty with the gress ever to use that power absolutely to abol. to reconsider be laid on the table. Osage Indians; which were referred to the ish the Army? The latter motion was agreed to. Committee on Indian A Hairs. 40TH CONG. 20 SESS. ---- No. 248. : bills: REPORTS OF COMMITTELE. son; and Mr. CRAGIN presented a report of a com- resolution; which was considered by unani- amendment, ordered to a third reading, read mittee of the Legislature of Montana, recom- mous consent, and agreed to : the third time, and passed. mending the passage of a memorial to Con. Resolved, That the President be requested to com MESSAGE FROM THE HOUSE. gress, praying for an appropriation for the municate to the Senate whether a commission baş been isened to James Coey, who has been nominated A message from the House of Representapurpose of paying the Montana volunteers for and confirmed as collector for the first internal rey- tives, by Mr. McPherson, its Clerk, announced the late expedition against the Indians; which enue district of California; and if the same has not that the House had agreed to the report of was referred to the Committee on Territo- been issued, the reasons therefor. the committee of conference on the following ries. AMENDMENTS TO PENSION BILLS. Mr. MORRILL, of Maine, presented addi On motion by Mr. VAN WINKLE, the Sen- A bill (H. R. No. 373) to place the name tional papers in relation to the claim of John ate proceeded to consider the amendments of of Mahala A. Straight upon the pension-roll H. Crowell; which were referred to the Com the House of Representatives to the following of the United States; mittee on Claims. bills of the Senate : A bill (H. R. No. 456) granting a pension A bill (S. No. 175) for the relief of Joseph to the minor children of Pleasant Stoops ; Mr. VAN WINKLE, from the Committee on McGhee Cameron, and Mary Jane Cameron, A bill (H. R. No. 518) granting a persion Pensions, to whom were referred the follow minor children of La Fayette Cameron, de- to George F. Gorham, late a private in coning bills, reported them without amendment: ceased; pany B, twenty.ninth regiment Massachusetts A bill (H. R. No. 1239) granting a pension A bill (S. No. 382) granting an increase of volunteer infantry; to Owen Griffin ; pension to Obadiah T. Plum; A bill (II. R. No. 522) granting a pension A bill (H. R. No. 1240) granting a pension A bill (S. No. 422) granting a pension to to W. W. Cunningham ; to Margaret Lewis ; Maria Schweitzer and the children of Conrad A bill (H. R. No. 535) granting i pension to Jeremiah T. Hallett; A bill (H. R. No. 1241) granting a pension Schweitzer, deceased; to Mrs. Mary Brown; A bill (S. No. 518) granting a pension to the A bill (H. R. No. 601) granting a pension A bill (H. R. No. 1242) granting a pension widow and child of John P. Felty; to the widow and minor children of Willian to Esther Fisk; A bill (S. No. 547) granting a pension to Craft; A bill (H. R. No. 662) granting a pension A bill (H. R. No. 1243) granting a pension | John Sheets; to William 0. Dodge; A bill (S. No. 314) for the relief of George to the widow and minor children of George R. Waters ; A bill (H. R. No. 1244) granting a pension T. Brien; to the widow and minor children of Solomon A bill (S. No. 383) granting a pension to A bill (H. R. No. 663) granting a pension Gause; John A. Weed and Elizabeth J. Weed, minor to Cyrus K. Wood, the legal representative of A bill (H. R. No. 1245) granting a pension children of Robert T. Weed, deceased; Cyrus D. Wood; to Matthew C. Griswold ; A bill (S. No. 517) granting a pension to the A bill (H. R. No. 664) granting a pension A bill (II. R. No. 1214) granting a pension widow and children of Henry Brown; and to the minor children of Charles Gouler; to the widow and minor children of Hiram A bill (S. No. 521) granting a pension to the A bill (H. R. No. 666) granting a pension Hitchcock; children of William M. Wooten, deceased. to Henry H. Hunter ; A bill (11. R. No. 1217) granting a pension had passed the following bills, in which it ) a The message also announced that the House A bill (H. R. No. 669) granting a pension to Orlena Walters ; to the widow and minor children of Myron Wilklow; A bill (Fi. R. No. 1248) granting a pension requested the concurrence of the Senate: to Elizabeth Richardson ; A bill (H. R. No. 1337) granting an increase A bill (H. R. No. 670) granting a pension to A bill (H. R. No. 1249) granting a pension of pension to Frances T. Richardson, widow the widow and children of Andrew Holman ; to Margaret C. Long; of the late Major General Israel B. Richard- A bill (H. R. No. 521) to place the name of A bill (H. R. No. 1250) granting a pension Solomon Zachman on the pension-roll ; to James Rooney ; A bill (H. R. No. 1363) granting an increase A bill (H. R. No. 673) granting a pension A bill (H. R. No. 1251) granting a pension of pension to Emily B. Bidwell, widow of to the widow and minor children of John S. to Charles Hamstead ; Brigadier General Daniel D. Bidwell. Phelps; A bill (H. R. No. 1252) granting a pension On motion by Mr. VAN WINKLE, it was A bill (H. R. No. 672) granting a pension to the minor children of Garrett W. Freer. Resolved, That the Senate disagree to the amen to the widow and minor children of Charles W. A bill (H. R. No. 1253) granting a pension ments of the House of Pepresentatives to the above Wilcox; mentioned bills, and ask a conference on the disto Julia L. Doty; and A bill' (H. R. No. 676) granting a pension to agreeing yotes of the two Houses thereon. A bill (H. R. No. 1254) granting a pension Ordered, That the conferees on the part of the Sen Thomas Connolly; to Francis M. Webster. ate be appointed by the President pro tempore of the A bill (H. R. No. 677) granting a pension to Senato. the minor children of James Heatherly ; REPORT OF ACADEMY OF SCIENCES. The PRESIDENT pro tempore appointed A bill (H. R. No. 770) granting a pension to Mr. ANTHONY. The Committee on Print- Mr. Van WINKLE, Mr. TRUMBULL, and Mr. John H. Finlay i ing, to whoin was referred a resolution to EDMUNDS. A bill (H. R. No. 675) granting a pension to print additional copies of the report of the REGISTRATION OF FOREIGN VESSELS. the widow and minor children of Cornelius National Academy of Sciences for the year L. Rice; Mr. MORGAN. I move that the Senate 1867, have instructed me to report it back with A bill' (H. R. No.771) granting a pension to an amendment as a substitute, and I ask for its proceed to the consideration of House bill No. John L. Lay ; 1119, reported from the Committee on Compresent consideration. There being no objection, the Senate pro A bill (H. R. No. 773) granting a pension to It is a bill of about twenty lines, and William H. McDonald; and ceeded to consider the resolution. will not occupy any time. Mr. ANTHONY. The Clerk need read only The motion was agreed to; and the bill (H. | John W. Hughes. A bill (H. R. No. 825) granting a pension to the substitute. R. No. 1119) for the registration or enrollment The message further announced that the The Chief Clerk read the amendment, as of certain foreign vessels was considered as follows: in Committee of the Whole. It directs the Honse had passed the following bill and joint resolution : Resolved, That the report of the operations of the Secretary of the Treasury to issue certificates A bill (S. No. 307) for the relief of certain National Academy of Sciences for 1867-68 be printed; of registry or enrollment and license to the Government contractors; and and tbat one thousand extra copies be printed for schooner Bob, of Saint Andrew, New Brunsthe use of the Senate, and one thousand extra copies be printed for the use of the Academy. wick; and to the following named Canadian A joint resolution (S. R. No. 81) placing The amendment was agreed to. built vessels, to wit: the schooner Royal Al certain troops of Missouri on an equal footing with others as to bounties. The message also announced that the House had agreed to the amendments of the Senate to Mr. CRAGIN asked, and by unanimous conGeorge Henry, of Toronto; the schooner An. the following joint resolutions: A joint resolution (H. R. No. 201) in rela. sent obtained, leave to introduce a bill (S. No. nexation, of Port Hope; and the schooner tion to the Rock Island bridge; and 611) authorizing the appointment of a commis. A joint resolution (H. R. No. 292) directing sion to examine the claim of the Territory of barges Champlain and Hochelega, of Quebec; Montana for volunteers during the late Indian the bark Monarch, the brig Sea Gull, and the the Secretary of War to sell damaged or unserwar, and to report upon the same; which was schooner Smith and Post, all of Oakville; the viceable arms, ordnance, and ordnance stores. read twice by its title, referred to the Commitschooner Welland, of Saint Catherines; the FREEDVEX'S BUREAU. tee on Territories, and ordered to be printed. schooner Governor, of Montreal; the schooner Mr. WILSON. I move to take up the bill Mr. CONKLING asked, and by unanimous L. S. Shicklana, of Saint Catharines; the || (S. No.567) relating to the Freedmen's Bureau consent obtained, leave to introduce a bill sclooner Victoria, of Toronto; those vessels and providing for its discontinuanee. I pre(S. No. 612) in relation to the proof of wills in being owned by citizens of the United States, sume it will take but a moment. the District of Columbia ; which was read and having been at all times employed upon The motion was agreed to; and the Senate, twice by its title, referred to the Committee on the waters of the lakes; but there is to be paid as in Committee of the Whole, proceeded to the District of Columbia, and ordered to be upon each of the foreign-built vessels a tax consider the bill. It provides that the duties printed. equal to the internal revenue tax upon the and powers of Commissioner of the Bureau for materials and cousiruction of similar vessels the Relief of Freedmen and Retugees shall conJAMES COEY. of American build. tinue to be discharged by the present CoinMr. CONNESS submitted the following The bill was reported to the Senate without missioner of the bureau, and in case of vacancy merce. |