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this District of Columbia to take care of the But I presume none of them did so consider | especially desirable on his part to remain in District only, with full staffs. The President, it. If we intend to reduce the Army, if that the service, while the position of the officers is the Commander-in-Chief, is one, the General is our intention in good faith-and I hope that a position for life--a position for which they of the Army another, the Secretary of War we do intend it-it is not right for us to com: have prepared themselves by years of study. still another, the Commissioner of the Freed- mence by cutting off the private soldiers, and Mr. WASHBURN, of Indiana. Do not men's Bureau is another, General Hancock, 1) leaving the great army of generals drawing their commissions run during the pleasure of commander of the military division, is another, their pay of $3,000, $5,000, or $6,000 a year the President? General Emory, the commander of the depart- each, with staffs around them drawing as much Mr. PILE. They do; but the practical ment of Washington, is another, General al

construction of that, as the gentleman very lace, the commander of the garrison of Wash- It is wrong to have in service officers for ) well knows, is that unless the officer is guilly ington, is another; there are, therefore, seven whom we have no use. This bill proposes to of some misconduct for which he is amenable general headquarters' to take care of this Dis- reduce the Army to twenty-five thousand men. under the rules and articles of war, and is sentrict in time of peace, and, I believe, from Now, the chairman of the Committee on Mili- || tenced to dismissal by a court-martial

, the twelve to fifteen generals on duty here in various tary Affairs (Mr. GARFIELD] was himself at President cannot dismiss him. Though the ways. A friend suggests nineteen. I always one time a general in the Army; and I should commission nominally runs during the pleasunderrate in my statements.

be glad if he would tell me by what rule of the ure of the President, it is a commission for Now, sir, that being so, I desire that we Army it will require a general, a lieutenant- | life unless the officer by misconduct renders shall come down somewhere near a peace general, four major generals, ten brigadier gen- || himself liable to dismissal by the judgment of establishment, and I know of no man better erals, and twelve staffs to command twenty-five a court-martial, situated to designate who shall hold these thousand troops. Both he and I in our military Mr. WASHBURN, of Indiana. Do I on: commissions of major generals than the Gen. ll experience, have known that number of men to derstand the gentleman to say that Congress eral of the Army.

be commanded by a far less number of generals cannot control this subject ? I propose to follow


this amendment by an without any major generals whatever except Mr. PILE. Certainly, Congress has power amendment providing that, instead of ten brig- at the head. There is no necessity in time of over the whole subject. It can abolish these adier generals, there shall be only six, to be peace for such a body of officers as this bill officers; it can do away with the army entirely; selected in the same way. This bill provides proposes. These officers ought not to con- but the President has no such power. for only twenty-five thousand soldiers, and three sider it a hardship that their services are dis- [Here the hammer fell.] major generals and a lieutenant general are pensed with. No man ought to consider it a Mr. CARY. I move to strike out the word amply sufficient to take charge of twenty-five hardship that, when the country does not General" and to insert "the President of thousand men; and those are twice as many require his services, it shall say so. I know the United States." Mr. Speaker, I see no general officers as are employed with a like that when my country required my services no reason why this duty should be devolved upon number of troops in the best European armies. longer I was informed of the fact, and that the General of the Army any more than upon A friend near me says that he would give was enough for me. It ought to be enough the Lieutenant General; but I do see a mani them six months. Why? Did you give any for everybody in such a position. It was enough || fest propriety in it being assigned to the Presi

: six months to the volunteer generals after they for many men wlio are now on this floor. dent of the United States, he being the Comwere no longer wanted? When you get through I do not know what is the present number of mander-in-Chief. I am not disposed to occupy with them they go out at once.

The most of our Army; but this bill proposes that when the my five minutes. It seems to me the propriety them knew, 100, where to go. We of the vol- number of officers shall be reduced those re. of the amendment is apparent. unteer service asked no favors. I am willing | lieved from duty shall be put on a retired list. Mr. MUNGEN. I ask my colleague to to give those officers sixty days after this act I am not in favor of that. I am in favor of l yield me the remainder of his time. shall pass. They have all been educated, wjih mustering out of service those officers for Mr. CARY. I yield to my colleague. one exception, at the expense of the Govern. wbose services the Government has no occa. Mr. MUNGEN. If I understand the amendment. They were given a first-rate education sion. There is no more justice in putting an ment of the gentleman from Massachusetts in at the expense of their country. They are all unnecessary officer on half pay than there is | extending the operation of this law to the 1st wanted as engineers of railroads and on other in putting upon half pay a private who is no of January-and I should like to know whether public works. They can all be employed and be longer needed. This bill contemplates that the that is not the fact it is to save General Grant, of some use, which they are not now, although || privates shall be mustered out. They are to provided he should not be elected President that is not their fault. I hope, therefore, my be turned loose without a dollar, for there is | by the people of the United States. amendment will be adopted.

not one in a thousand who has a dollar within Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. No, sir. [Here the hammer fell.]

a few weeks after receiving his pay. The pri- Mr. MUNGEN. Does this leave General Mr. GARFIELD. I hope the House will vates are to be turned loose upon the country Grant and Lieutenant General Sherman in not adopt the amendment of the gentleman without occupation, while at the same time you their present positions ? from Massachusetts, [Mr. BUTLER.]

propose to retain in service almost an army of Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. Yes, sir. Mr. MULLINS. 'I do hope they will. general officers for whom the country has no Mr. MUNGEN. I would as soon leave them

Mr. GARFIELD. In the first place, it is a occasion. No man who is truly a patriot will, out as any private soldier. very ungracious task which the Committee on when his services are dispensed with, in order Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. One of Military Affairs have felt it their duty to per to reduce the burdens of the people, and be. them will go out next March. form, to cut down so large a number of persons cause those services are no longer required Mr. SCHENCK. I rise to oppose the in official positions as this bill proposes; and say, “I have done service for ny country and amendment. Mr. Speaker, it seems to be a fore. particularly in the case of persons who have my country has forgotten me; and in its for- gone conclusion that there is to be some reducperformed so distinguished services as have (getfulness has inflicted disgrace upon itself and tion of the Army. When we do come to a been performed by the officers embraced in a great wrong upon me.” No nian with proper decision of that sort it seems to me we should this section. There are five major generals self respect and proper love for his country approach the subject with a consideration 100k now in the Army: Halleck, Meade, Sheridan, will say that. For these reasons I am in favor ing to all the interests involved both of public George H. Thomas, and Hancock. Now, tó of the amendment of the gentleman from and private citizens affected by our action. require the General of the Army to select two Massachusetts, and I hope it will be adopted. Now, sir, it strikes me the mode proposed by of them to be stricken from the rolls, to let the Mr. PILE.' Mr. Speaker, I rise to oppose

the gentleman from Massachusetts [dir

. Bur burden, and especially what odium there might the amendment to the amendment. The theory be in that selection rest upon the General of of this bill is that supernumerary officers sball | do not pretend to say Congress may not abola

LER) would be an exceedingly harsh one. the Army, I think would not be treating him be retained until vacancies occur in their grade, ish the office of major general, or reduce the fairly, nor would it be treating fairly the offi- and that subordinate officers below the rank

number of major generals. I'am inclined to cers who now occupy these positions. With- of brigadier general shall be placed upon a list think hereafter in our Army three will be out undertaking to debate this matter further, to be relieved and put upon half pay. I am in enough in any organization we propose to keep I ask for a vote on the amendment. favor of mustering out of service such major

up. But what is the amendment? That here. Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. I modify | generals and brigadier generals as we have no after there shall be three major generals; that my amendment so that it shall read “on the further occasion for. It we are to adopt the is, after the 1st of January nest, and those 1st day of January next," instead of "sixty rule that supernumerary officers throughout all three shall be designated by the General of the days after the passage of this act."

the lower grades of the Army shall be mustered Army. I suppose there are to be three selected The question was on the amendment, as modi. out, it certainly would not be proper to retain from the present five, but the amendment does fied,

the supernumerary major generals and briga- not say so. Mr. LOGAN. I move to amend the amend. dier generals. Hence I shall regard the vote

Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. Yes, il ment by striking out the last word for the pur. upon this amendment as a test of the sense of does. pose of saying a word in reply to at has the House upon the question whether these Mr. SCHENCK. The selection, then, is to been said by the chairman of the Committee | supernumeraries shall be retained or whether be made from the

present five major generals

. on Military Affairs, [Mr. GARFIELD.] I do all supernumeraries shall be mustered out.

Who are they? Halleck, Meade, Sheridan, not look upon this as being so great a hard- There is, as has been suggested by the gentle : Thomas, and Hancock. I am not an especial ship as some men seem to consider it. A

man from Illinois, (Mr. LOGAN,] a distinction admirer of General Halleck. I have regarded great many men might have considered it a between the position of the officer and that of

him always as a paper general, if I may make hardship, after they had served as generals in the private soldier in this respect: the private a criticism of that kind. I do not suppose the Army for four years, and lost their business soldier is enlisted for a term of years, and his

any one would think of excluding Meade, Sher; at home, to be mustered out at a day's notice, pay is not supposed to be such as to make it ll idan, or George H. Thomas ; and I confess I

should be unwilling to see a harsh measure of this Now, let us see further about the argument
kind extended to General Hancock, for while that these officers shall not be discharged. In
I never have believed, if he had been the for- the first place General Halleck left the Army
tunate or unfortunate man selected for defeat before the war and went into the law to serve
with any of the chances tendered to him by the his own interests after he had been educated
convention at New York, he would or would at the public expense. I have nothing to say
not have made much of a President; yet he || against him. But when he was in the Army
has proved himself a respectable soldier. Now, he wrote two or three military books. I do
these five men entered in boyhood the public not pretend to say whether he is a man to be
service in the profession of arms and have con- selected to be discharged or not. I am not
tinued up to this time. They have been put going to discuss personally any of these officers.
upon an increased establishment as compared || I only say that if we cannot begin here with
with what existed before the war. It is now our reduction-with these general officers-
proposed that they shall be thrust out of service if there is not nerve enough in this Congress
in their comparatively old age in this manner, to stand up here and now, you might as well
without provision. I object to it. If there has throw this bill into the fire and go home.
been any wrong in promoting them, in advanc- What is our proposition? To strike out
ing them until we have more of these officers || these generals ? Out from what? Simply
than we need, the wrong has not been theirs. because they are no longer needed for the ser-
They are not to be blamed for the natural vice. Seven years ago some of them were
ambition of getting advancement. If there has | captains, quartermasters, and right glad to have
been any wrong the wrong has been in Congress those positions. At the end of six years what
making this provision for them. Now, after do we propose to say to them?

"We say we Congress has done this, it seems to me the do not want to saddle the people of the coun: least thing we could do would be to let them try with your salaries any longer.” My friend down in some graceful way, considering who from Ohio agrees they are not needed; the they are and what they have done.

Military Committee agrees also; but it is said Mr. LOGAN. Will the gentleman let me we must let them down easy. Sir, who will ask him a question ?

let the tax burdened people down easy? Why Mr. SCHENCK. In five minutes' time one should we pension these men ? We have eduhas not much to spare.

cated them all, given them a thorough educaMr. LOGAN. Does not the gentleman from 1 tion, and I was about to say if they cannot Ohio know that quite a number of officers who make a living, what are our poor volunteers were educated at West Point, and served in to do who left their homes and their colleges, the Army as major generals and brigadier with their education unfinished, and went into generals, have been compelled to return to the the war, and having fought it through were positions of captains and lieutenants ?

then thrust out of the Army without education, Mr. SCHENCK. Certainly I do; but that without preparation, without position, without does not make the slightest reply to my argu- any saving clause whatever, many of them ment. These men are now regularly in the without arms or without legs, and with gaping service by the action of Congress, obtaining wounds? You gave them fifteen dollars a advancement as it has been held open to them, month at most, but when you come to the man and this amendment proposes to thrust them who is receiving $12,000 or $15,000 a year you out without provision, without half pay, with- must treat him very gently. Why? Because out retirement, with only the general declara- he has somebody here to speak for him. tion, “Begone, we have no further need of Now let us have it understood, if we proyour services. I am not ready for that. I pose to pass this bill let us begin with the powprefer that we shall gradually let ourselves erful men, these major generals, and deal with down from that point to which we extended them first, not harshly, but simply say to them, our legislation, if we are to take a back track "Your services are no longer needed ; you upon it; and in letting ourselves down, that have done well; we give you full recognition while we take care of the public interest, we

of your services; we have done so by continushall at the same time try not to do any injus-ing you in your places more than three years tice to those who served the country.

after the war is ended with nothing for you to [Here the hammer fell.]

do; we have had to make military provision The SPEAKER. The question recurs on

for you by giving you commands, but from this the amendment of the gentleman from Ohio,

time you, as military officers, with your staffs (Mr. Cary.]

or military households are to cease. Mr. WILSON, of Iowa. I propose to per

[Here the hammer fell.] fect the text.

Mr. GARFIELD. I rise to oppose the The SPEAKER. That is in order.

amendment, and to say simply before making Mr. WILSON, of Iowa. I move to strike a motion, that it is the opinion of the commitout "four' in both instances where it occurs tee that these officersand insert "three;" so that the section will The SPEAKER. Debate is exhausted on read:

the amendment. That no vacancies shall hereafter be filled in the Mr. WILSON, of Iowa. I withdraw the office of major general until the number of major amendment to enable the gentleman to renew it. generals shall be less than three, and thereafter there shall be but three major generals.

Mr. GARFIELD. I renew it. It will take

some time to reduce the Army as provided in I only say in support of this that I fully con

this bill, and during that time a large number I cur in the remark of the gentleman from Ohio, [Mr. Schenck,) as to the principle of reducing the large departments we now have and the of experienced officers are certainly needed in

t the Army; and, entertaining that view, I move extended number of posts. There are nearly to reduce the number of major generals to three. twelve hundred separate military posts now Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. I rise to

fi occupied by troops of the United States. And oppose the amendment. Now, sir, let us see in addition to the reasons given, we thought it what is proposed. We cannot strike out any. would be violent and almost in bad faith to body here who does not find a friend to uphold strike down the officers at once.

A him. We cannot strike out any provision in

Having said these few words, I move to close the Army bill without disturbing the gentleman | debate on this section. who is the author of it; for he always stands

The motion was agreed to. by his child. Now, I want to call the attention

L of the House to the provisions of the bill. It

The question was taken on the amendment

it proposes to keep these men

in office until

they FIELD,) and it was agreed to.
of Mr. Wilson, of Iowa, (renewed by Mr. GAR-

die. They never resign. They are of an aver-
age age of perhaps forty-five. They are good The question was next on the motion of Mr.

8 for thirty years longer. Now, it is proposed Cary, to amend the substitute for the section to pass a measure called a bill for the reduc- offered by Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts, by tion of the Army. If we pass this bill as it | striking out “ General of the Army'' and stands it will be no reduction, but a reductio ad inserting "President of the United States." absurdum.

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sition. All I contend for is this: enter upon and this was a sufficient reason if we had no profession of his life, he becomes, after a time, your business of reducing the Army, and if other. So we do keep the Lieutenant General unfitted for other pursuits. Not so in any these men are to be put aside, who have re- until there is a vacancy:

other department of the Government to ans. tained their positions under your laws, with Mr. SCHENCK. We are always to keep thing like the same extent. A man who lives advancement provided for them, some little | him, according to that.

many years in the Army cannot go to business. provision ought to be made for them in their Mr. BUTLER,of Massachusetts. The answer He is out of the range employments which old age, either in the shape of half-pay, or to that is a very plain one. "Sufficient unto belong to civil life. It seems to me, thereelse apply to the brigadier and major generals the day is the evil thereof." We are now fore, to be a just principle recognized in Eng the same principle that you apply to the Gen. | making a peace establishment for the present. land, recognized in France, recognized in all eral and Lieutenant General in this bill. I will We think that in the course of forty years there the civilized nations of the world, that an offi. not assume that it was because it was sup-1 may be a necessity for a change. The difficulty cer of the army shall be treated with some posed it might, perhaps, be unpopular to is that gentlemen here do not want any change, special regard in reference to his tenure of apply such a rule to the general or Lieutenant | if I may say so, under forty years. Now, we office. General that it is not applied to them; or that have ten brigadier generals. I propose six in I shall be sorry, sir, to see any attack upon it was applied to these others because it was my amendment. Why? Having three major the Army of the United States, which I believe supposed it would reach a class of officers | generals, there should be two brigades and two to day has no peer on the face of the earth; among whom would be found, in the first | brigadier generals to a division. My own belief an Army made up of men who have won fame grade, one or two over whose removal we is that one major general is sufficient and two on many battle-fields, and in a manner most would shed no tears, or, in the second grade, brigadier generals for the whole Army. But, honorable to our country. They took their five or six over whom noue of us would weep. if I should propose that it would be considered places in the Army as now constituted with Yet it does look so.

very harsh; and I have to do the best I can the distinct understanding that they were fixed Now, if we do not want a General, if we do when I cannot do as I would. Therefore, I and permanent places. Why, sir, in the bill not want a Lieutenant General, why not apply | have agreed to propose three major generals | which passed when my colleague[Mr.Scuenca] your rule of at once reducing the Army by get- and six brigadier generals, a great number. was chairman of the Committee on Military ting rid of these still higher oflicers, who, if Now, I do not admit the force of the argu- Affairs, it was declared in the title that it was anything, are wanted still less than those of ment of my friend, the chairman of the commit. an act to fix the military peace establishment the lower grades? The suggestion of the gen- tee, when he says that there are twelve hundred l of the United States." Every man who took tleman from Illinois [Mr. Logan] that you posts. There ought to be nine hundred and position under that law understood it was a would not then have a head to the Army, is no fifty less. And I will venture to say that none part of the fixed and permanent establishment. answer to the proposition, because, reduce the of these generals have seen one third of those | Every man now bolding a commission in the Army as you may, there would still be some posts within the last year. That being so they || Army holds it as he understood at the begin: officer senior to all the rest who would be the are absolutely of no use. Why, then, should ning as a commission which shall not be affected accepted head of the Army. It must be, there- we pension them? If you will pension your except by decision of court martial upon his fore, that it is not thought advisable to apply judges, if you will pension your collectors of own merits or demerits. Now, to say that these the same rule to one class of officers that you internal revenue, especially if you will pen. commissions shall be vacated, that these men propose to apply to the others, yet I cannot sion all the civil officers of this Government shall be thrown out, is to violate all the cusunderstand whythe distinction should be drawn. when they get to a certain age and you turn toms of civilized nations, and all the customs I am not opposing the reduction of the Army. them out, then I may vote for pensioning these of our own during all our history. I am not seeking to preserve what the gentle | military officers. That is the English system, (Here the hammer fell.] man from Massachusetts (Mr. BUTLER] seems I know; and I fear we are fast verging toward The question was upon the amendment to to think my own peculiar child. I have my it. When men are once fastened on the coun- the amendment. own opinion in regard to the reduction or the try it is very hard to get rid of them. But our Mr. GARFIELD. I hope by unanimous enlargement of the Army. I have my own theory of Government has been that a man is consent all further debate on this section will opinion in regard both to the officers and the called into the service of the Government when I be closed. privates. I will not enter into a controversy as we want him, and that he goes out when we Mr. PAINE. I hope not; I wish to say & to who sympathizes most or least with the pri- ' get through with him.

word. vates. I leave that for every soldier who ever [Here the hammer fell. )

Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. I with served under me to decide for himself.

Mr. GARFIELD. Mr. Speaker, in answer draw the amendment to the amendment. [Here the hammer fell.]

to what has been said by the gentleman from Mr. PAINE. I offer the following amend. Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. I move Massachusetts, (Mr. BUTLER,] I desire to say ment. to amend the amendment pro forma by strik: that his argument in favor of retaining the The Clerk read as follows: ing out the last word. This is not a new Lieutenant General, if good at all, is good in dilemma for us to be in. After the late war with

Add the following: favor of always having a Lieutenant General, There shall be but six brigadier generals after the Great Britain, Scott and Gaines were both so as to have a recognized head of the Army, 31st day of March 1869, and the officers who sha!! major generals They claimed rights against not an officer who can be assigned by the


their commissions as such shall, after the tentb each other, which finally led to an open quar- President of the United States at his pleasure.

day of March, 1869, be designated by the President of the United States without regard to seniority

, and rel between them. To compose that quarrel, One word in regard to the section now under all others shall be mustered out of the service on the John Quincy Adams hunted up General Ma- consideration. There are now ten brigadier

31st of March, 1869. comb, who was almost paralyzed, and put him generals. We have many different kinds of Mr. PAINE. Mr. Speaker, I bope I should in command, in order to have a senior officer military duty to be performed, requiring offi- never for one moment be willing to say or do to compose the difficulties between Scott and cers of considerable rank. If the proposition anything upon this floor or elsewhere which Gaines. He also made two great military || presented by the gentleman from Massachu- would seem to involve a want of appreciation departments-the department of the East and setts should prevail, we shall then have but six of the services of the offices and enlisted mer the department of the West, and put Scott in brigadier generals in the Army; and with our one and Gaines in the other, so as to keep | great extent of country, with the military || for one consent that any particular class of

of the Army of the United States, but I cannot them apart; and to keep the peace between departments and the districts within those officers should be picked out and allowed upon them. That went on until Macomb 'died.

departments, we should not have a general this floor to monopolize the fruits and results Then came the Mexican war. After the Mexiofficer to command each leading department of all the honor and all the merit which at

; can war, the same trouble arose between Wool and sub-department.

tached to the entire Army during the war. and Scott. Scott was made Lieutenant General In addition to that, let me say once for all

cannot be satisfied to hear my friend behind by brevet-he being at the time a major gen- that it has been the purpose of the Committee me [Mr. GARFIELD] say, when so many men eral--and Wool was made a major general by on Military Affairs to reduce the Army as much served gallantly and meritoriously in the last brevet. That composed all difficulties there, as we thought the condition of the country

war, that a few men shall be picked out and and gave an acknowledged head.

required, while at the same time we have made the recipients of the honors and benefits Now, sir, the reason we did not strike down endeavored to avoid all invidious personal dig.

which we are so ready and willing 10 accord to the General was that some of us have a reason. tinctions and all personal injustice. And it the great Army which crushed the late rebel able expectation that there will be a vacancy seems to me that if we require the General of

lion. Let us give honor where honor is due. in the course of a few months in that office; the Army to determine which of his comrades

Let us give to these men now in the Army the and then there being a vacancy in the office in arms shall be dropped from the Army and

honor that is due to them, but for heaven's of General, it would not only be removing him which retained, we shall impose upon him a

sake do not let us shower down upon tbeir for three months, if we put him on the same duty which we ought not to ask him to perform.

heads all the honor won by the volunteer and ground as to vacating his office with the major Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts.


regular officers and soldiers from the beginning general. put it on the President.

of this war to the end. We come, then, to the position of Lieutenant Mr. GARFIELD. If it is proposed to put

And let us not for one moment forget the General. That Officer we keep so that there it on the President of the United States, I ask may be a head to the Army-an acknowledged whether gentlemen on this side of the Hall

provisions of the eighth section of this bill, in

which the gentleman himself proposes to put head with authority in his own right-not an are willing that the President shall perform accidental head that any President may over- that duty at his discretion?

upon ball pay all junior officers of the Army

who shall be thrown out of full commission as slaugh or whose orders any President may One word further. The profession of arms reverse by relieving him. This is our reason

the result of the consolidation of regiments is recognized throughout the world as peculiar for retaining the office of Lieutenant General; in this : that when a man has adopted it as the

from sixty down to forty-ope. Let us not for get that the gentleman himself adopts in this bill the very principle he now deprecates. He Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. What is says that when a man enters the Army as Gen- the use of having it? eral Halleck did for the second time he enters Mr. GARFIELD. I suppose every gentleit for life, and so understands it, and yet he man will agree that the halcyons day will never proposes to cut out the officers of nineteen

come, the glorious age will never arrive, when regiments who happen, indeed, to be junior in we will not need to keep an Army; and while rauk, but who, I venture to say, won their we do keep it the Congress of the United States, commissions, in a large majority of cases, on I suppose, will endeavor to retain its valuable the field of battle itself.

officers and its men of experience. Mr. GARFIELD. We do not cut out those

Now, one word in reply to the gentleman's men at all.

suggestion that I have intimated that all the Mr, PAINE. The committee retires them

wisdom and glory of the late great struggle was from active service on haif pay.

concentrated in the regular Army, I am not Mr. GARFIELD. No: we do not retire

behind any gentleman in my admiration of the them. They are simply relieved temporarily, great body of citizen soldiers who won the until vacancies occur.

victory and saved the nation. But I desire to Mr. PAINE. Call it by whatever name you say that while there are thousands of noble will, they are virtually robbed of their com

men, not now in the Army, who did their part missions and left mere pensioners in the Army. as worthily as any who are in it, yet our pres. Mr. GARFIELD. They are withheld from

ent Army has in it more history, more glory, duty.

and the record of more heroism and patriotMr. RAUM. There is a provision in this

ism than any other Army that ever existed in bill which authorizes the Secretary of War to

time of peace; and I for one, though I am detail these officers on special service.

compelled by the necessities of the country to Mr. PAINE. I am aware of that; it is a

put the knife to the Army and reduce it nearly proviso in the eighth section.

fifty per cent., will not by my voice or vote Mr. RAUM. That proviso will certainly

consent that we shall strike down by the brutal put very nearly all these officers on active

force of numbers haif the official staff of the duty. Mr. PAINE. I cannot yield any longer.

Army, only to be under the necessity of reap

pointing them in less than six months. By The sole effect of that is to neutralize, so far

papers from the Secretary of War which I now as it goes, the whole plan of reduction.

hold in my hand, it is slown that the Army, by But I must ask the attention of the House

the reduction now going on by usual casualto one great fallacy into which my friend has

ties, will by the 1st of July next have reached fallen. He says that when these officers

twenty-eight thousand men. Officers are reentered the Army they were justified in the signing fast. Many who received wounds and understanding that it would become to them a

became partially incapacitated during the war perinanent position. Sir, the Constitution of

are becoming invalids. Many are leaving the the United States stands directly across the

Army for other reasons. All that is needed is track of the gentleman when lie makes that

that we simply let these patriotic men hold assertion. The Constitution provides that

their positions on half pay or in regular active appropriations for the Army shall be limited

service for a few months, and the Army will to two years; and if we do not know it from

reduce itself. our study of the history of the convention

[Here the hammer fell.] which framed that instrument, yet Thomas

Mr. LOGAN obtained the floor. Jefferson has told us and James Madison has told us that that provision was incorporated

Mr. PAINE. I will withdraw my amend.

ment if the gentleman will renew it. I want a for the express purpose of guarding against semblance of anything like permanency in the

vote upon it. military establishment; placed there for the

Mr. LOGAN. I will renew it.

Mr. MAYNARD. Is it in order to move to express purpose of affording to either branch of the Legislature an opportunity in every

aujourn? I suggest to the gentleman who lias period of two years to abolish the Army of

charge of the bill that it is now nearly half past the United States in spite of the other branch

ten o'clock. We bave been here for three

hours. I dislike to make the motion without of the Legislature and in spite of the Presi. dent by withholding appropriations for its sup

his consent. port.

The SPEAKER. When the gentleman from Mr. MILLER. Does the gentleman desire Illinois (Mr. LOGAN] closes his remarks a moto retain all those officers?

tion to adjourn will be in order. Mr. PAINE. Oh, no.

Mr. LOGAN. I will give way for a motion [liere the hammer fell.]

to adjourn. Mr. GARFIELD. I would not rise now but Mr. GARFIELD. I would inquire if this for what seems to be a very probable misunder: bill will come up to-norrow? standing, if not misrepresentation, on the part The SPEAKER. It will be the onlinished of my friend from Wiscousin. I perfectly business immediately after the reading of the recognize what the gentleman says, that the Journal. Constitution of the United States provides that no appropriation for the Army shall last for more than two years. The purpose of that On motion of Mr. PRICE. by unanimous provision is that the civil shall always control consent the anvendments of the Senate to the the military establishment of the Government, joint resolution (H. R. No. 201) in relation to and the provision is made so as to give either the Rock Island bridge were taken from the branch of Congress the power to control the | Speaker's table. military establishment. But I wish to know The amendments of the Senate were read if the gentleman means, by the interpretation and concurred in, as follows: of the Constitution he has given, to intimate

fi that it was ever presumed that the Congress

Page 1, linc cight, after the word "island” insert

to connect said island with the cities of Davenof the United States would abolish the Army port and Rock Island." altogether?

Page 2, line thirteen, after “sixty-six"insert "And Mr. PAINE. I will answer the gentleman provided, also that in no case shall the expenditure that it was the design of the framers of the

on the part of the United States exceed $1,000,000."

Add the following new section: Constitution to put it in the power of the Sen- SEC. 3. And be it further resolved, That any bridge ate alone or of the House alone at any time in

built under the provisions of this resolution shall be

constructed so as to confirm to the requirements of two years to abolish the Army of the United

section two of an act entitled "An act to authorizo Siates in spite of the other branch or in spite the construction of certain bridges and to establish

tl of the President.

them as post roads,” approved July 25, 1866. Mr. GARFIELD. Well, I have said that Mr. PRICE moved to reconsider the vote myself just now. But does the gentleman sup- by which the amendments of the Senate were B pose it was the purpose or intention of Con- concurred in: and also moved that the motion fa gress ever to use that power absolutely to abol. to reconsider be laid on the table.

0 ish the Army?

The latter motion was agreed to. 40TH CONG. 20 SESS. ---No. 248.

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Mr. CRAGIN presented a report of a com- resolution; which was considered by unani- amendment, ordered to a third reading, read mittee of the Legislature of Montana, recom- mous consent, and agreed to :

the third time, and passed. mending the passage of a memorial to Con- Resolved, That the President be requested to com

MESSAGE FROJ TIE HOUSE. gress, praying for an appropriation for the municate to the Senate whetber a commission has

been issued to James Coey, who has been nominated A message from the House of Representapurpose of paying the Montana volunteers for

and confirmed as collector for the first internal rey- tives, by Mr. McPherson, its Clerk, announced the late expedition against the Indians; which enue district of California; and if the samo has not that the House had agreed to the report of was referred to the Committee on Territo- been issued, the reasons therefor.

the committee of conference on the following ries.


bills : Mr. MORRILL, of Maine, presented addi

On motion by Mr. VAN WINKLE, the Sen. A bill (H. R. No. 373) to place the naine tional papers in relation to the claim of John H. Crowell; which were referred to the Com

ate proceeded to consider the amendments of of Mahala A. Straight upon the pension-roll

the House of Representatives to the following of the United States; mittee on Claims. bills of the Senate :

A bill (H. R. No. 456) granting a pension A bill (S. No. 175) for the relief of Joseph | to the minor children of Pleasant Stoops; Mr. VAN WINKLE, from the Committee on NcGhee Cameron, and Mary Jane Cameron, A bill (H. R. No. 518) granting a pension Pensions, to whom were referred the follow

minor children of La Fayette Cameron, de- to George F. Gorham, late a private in coni

ceased; ing bills, reported them without amendment:

pany B, twenty.ninth regiment Massachusetts A bill (H. R. No. 1239) granting a pension A bill (S. No. 382) granting an increase of volunteer infantry; to Owen Griffin ; pension to Obadiah T. Plum;

A bill (II. R. No. 522) granting a pension A bill (H. R. No. 1240) granting a pension

A bill (S. No. 422) granting a pension to to W. W. Cunningham ;

Maria Schweitzer and the children of Conrad A bill (H. R. No. 535) granting a pension to Margaret Lewis ; A bill (I. R. No. 1241) granting a pension Schweitzer, deceased ;

to Jeremiah T. Hallett;

A bill (S. No. 518) granting a pension to the A bill (H. R. No. 661) granting a pension to Mrs. Mary Brown ; widow and child of John P. Felty;

to the widow and minor children of William A bill (H. R. No. 1242) granting a pension

Craft; to Esther Fisk ;

A bill (S. No. 547) granting a pension to
A bill (H. R. No. 1213) granting a pension
John Sheets;

A bill (H, R. No. 662) granting a pension to William 0. Dodge;

A bill (S. No. 314) for the relief of George to the widow and minor children of George T, Brien;

R. Waters; A bill (II. R. No. 1241) granting a pension

A bill (S. No. 383) granting a pension to A bill (H. R. No. 663) granting a pension to the widow and minor children of Solomon Gause;

John A. Weed and Elizabeth J. Weed, miuor to Cyrus K. Wood, the legal representative of A bill (II. R. No. 1245) granting a pension children of Robert T. Weed, deceased ; Cyrus D. Wood; to Matthew C. Griswold ;

A bill (S. No. 517) granting a pension to the A bill (H. R. No. 664) granting a pensia

widow and children of Henry Brown; and to the minor children of Charles Gouler; A bill (II. R. No. 1214) granting a pension

A bill (S. No. 521) granting a pension to the A bill (H. R. No. 666) granting a pension to the widow and minor children of Hiram Hitchcock;

children of William M. Wooten, deceased. to Henry H. Hunter ; A hill (II. R. No. 1217) granting a pension

The message also announced that the House A bill' (H, R. No. 669) granting a pension to Orlena Walters; had passed the following bills, in which it to the widow and minor children of Jyron

Wilklow; A bill (li. R. No. 1218) granting a pension

requested the concurrence of the Senate: to Elizabeth Richardson ;

A bill (H. R. No. 1337) granting an increase A bill (H. R. No. 670) granting a pension to A bill (H. R. No. 1219) granting a pension

of pension to Frances T. Richardson, widow the widow and children of Andrew Holman; to Margaret C. Long;

of the late Major General Israel B. Richard- A bill (H. R. No. 521) to place the name of A bili (H. R. No. 1250) granting a pension ;

Solomon Zachman on the pension-roll; to James Rooney ;

A bill (H. R. No. 1363) granting an increase A bill (H. R. No. 673) granting a pension A bill (II. R. No. 1251) granting a pension of pension to Emily B. Bidwell, widow of to the widow and minor children of John S. to Charles Hamstead ; Brigadier General Daniel D. Bidwell.

Phelps; A bill (II. R. No. 1252) granting a pension

On motion by Mr. VAN WINKLE, it was A bill (H. R. No. 672) granting & pension to the minor children of Garrett W. Freer. Resolved, That the Senate disagree to the amend- to the widow and minor children of Charles IV. A bill (H. R. No. 1253) granting a pension ments of the House of Pepresentatives to the above

Wilcox; mentioned bills, and ask a conference on the disto Julia L. Doty; and

A bill (H. R. No. 076) granting a pension to agreeing votes of the two llouses thereon. A bill (H. R. No. 1254) granting a pension Ordered, That the conferees on the part of the Sen

Thomas Connolly; to Francis M, Webster,

ate be appointed by the President pro tempore of the A bill (H. R. No. 677) granting a pension to Senato.

the minor children of James Heatherly; REPORT OF ACADEMY OF SCIENCES.

The PRESIDENT pro tempore appointed A bill (H. R. No. 770) granting a pension to Mr. ANTHONY. The Committee on Print- Mr. VAN WINKLE, Mr. TRUMBULL, and Mr. John H. Finlay; ing, to whom was referred a resolution to EDMUNDS.

A bill (H. R. No. 675) granting a pension to print additional copies of the report of the


the widow and minor children of "Cornelius National Academy of Sciences for the year

L. Rice; 1867, have instructed me to report it back with

Mr. MORGAN. I move that the Senate

A bill (H. R. No.771) granting a pension to an amendment as a substitute, and I ask for its proceed to the consideration of House bill No.

John L. Lay; present consideration.

1119, reported from the Committee on ComThere being no objection, the Senate pro.

It is a bill of about twenty lines, and

A bill (H. R. No. 773) granting a pension to ceeded to consider the resolution. will not occupy any time.

William H. McDonald; and
Mr. ANTHONY. The Clerk need read only
The motion was agreed to; and the bill (H.

A bill (H. R. No. 825) granting a pension to the substitute.

John W. Hughes.
R. No. 1119) for the registration or enrollment
The Chief Clerk read the amendment, as

of certain foreign vessels was considered as
in Committee of the Whole. It directs the

Honse had passed the following bill and joint

resolution : Resolved, that the report of the operations of the

Secretary of the Treasury to issue certificates National Academy of Sciences for 1867-63 be printed;

of registry or enrollment and license to the and that one thousand extra copies be printed for

Government contractors; and the use of the Senate, and one thousand extra copies

schooner Bob, of Saint Andrew, New Brunsbe printed for the use of the Academy,

wick; and to the following named CanadianThe amendment was agreed to. built vessels, to wit: the schooner Royal Al

with others as to bounties. The resolution, as amended, was adopted.

bert, of Oakville; the bark John Breden, the

schooner Prince Alfred, and the brigantine BILLS INTRODUCED. Mr. CRAGIN asked, and by unanimous con

Orkney Lass, all of Kingston; the schooner sent obtained, leave to introduce a bill (S. No.

George Henry, of Toronto; the schooner An611) authorizing the appointment of a commis

nexation, of Port Hope; and the schooner
Emperor, of Saint Catharines; aiso to the
barges Champlain and Hochelega, of Quebec;
the bark Monarch, the brig Sea Gull, and the
schooner Smith and Post, all of Oakville; the

viceable arms, ordnance, and orda ance stores
schooner Welland, of Saint Catherines; the
schooner Governor, of Montreal; the schooner

L. S. Shicklana, of Saint Catharines; the the No: 612) in relation to the proof of vills in being owned by citizens of the United States,

schooner Victoria, of Toronto; those vessels
and having been at all times employed upon
the waters of the lakes; but there is to be paid
upon each of the foreign-built vessels a tax consider the bill. It provides that the duties
equal to the internal revenue tax upon the
materials and construction of similar vessels

the Relief of Freedmen and Refugees shall come of American build.

tinue to be discharged by tbe present Con The bill was reported to the Senate without

missioner of the bureau, and in case of racalicy


The message further announced that the

A bill (S. No. 307) for the relief of certain

A joint resolution (S. R. No. 81) placing certain troops of Missouri on an equal footing

The message also announced that the House had agreed to the amendments of the Seuate to the following joint resolutions:

A joint resolution (II. R. No. 201) in rela: tion to the Rock Island bridge; and

A joint resolution (H. R. No. 292) directing the Secretary of War to sell damaged or unser

sion to examine the claim of the Territory of Montana for volunteers during the late Indian war, and to report upon the same ; which was read twice by its title, referred to the Committee on Territories, and ordered to be printed.

Mr. CONKLING asked, and by unanimons consent obtained, leave to introduce a bill

the bill


the District of Columbia; which was read
twice by its title, referred to the Committee on
the District of Columbia, and ordered to be

Dr. CONNESS submitted the following

FREEDVEY'S BUREAU. Mfr. WILSON. I move to take (S. No. 567) relating to the Freedmen's Bureau and providing for its discontinuance. I presume it will take but a moment.

The motion was agreed to; and the Senate, as in Committee of the Whole, proceeded : and powers of Commissioner of the Bureau tor

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