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makes it a loyal State. In Colorado will be pel the new communities springing up there to clusion, that the reason that would exist, and found the sons of Vermont. They bring with wait until by the plodding necessities of New did exist, in 1818 and 1820, cannot by any them the babits of industry and economy and England, Vermont included, they wended their possibility apply now. The olden time has frugaiity which stamp New England's great- way in wagons there, until they had population passed away, and all things have become new. ness everywhere, and the West glories in it. enough to be cut up into two or three States ? States are born with a rapidity that would have It is this combined energy, this emigrating Sir, I repudiate that idea. I say that the faith astonished the men of that day, and they are power of the older States, that is building up of this nation is pledged to admit Colorado. peopled with a rapidity which no human lead new ones like the gourd in the night, that will She lies now right at the gateway of this can calculate. Sir, the great national thoroughreflect back the principles of New England mighty West. The whistle is first heard upon fare through Colorado will, in two or three improved by their expansion upon the broad her domain across the Missouri, and its last years, take by its cheap and rapid communiplains of the West. Sir, I hope we shall hear notes sound as it goes into the gorges of the cation to that State a population equal to Verno more of that jealousy. It was a similar cry | Rocky mountains. With widespread pastoral mont. The State of Nevada, to which my col. that once rent this Union in twain-North; fields, with fields now waving with the ripening | league on the committee alluded, will have South! I appeal to the Senator from Vermont | grain, with mines rich in themselves, with an a population of one hundred thousand ere if there has not been a new birth of this nation. energetic population-all save one, and that is autumn comes. I see my honorable friend We are one and indivisible. I share in the Teller-she asks to be admitted. She has from Maine [Mr. FESSENDEN] smiles. I honor and glory of Colorado as much as I do stood here by her representatives and knocked hope he smiles with gladness at the prospect. in that of Vermont or Nevada.

until their knocks have gone far into the night Now the State of California, just born, sends I repudiate the idea that the people of Col- in response to our own invitation. It is time out more from her borders to-day than any orad are asking anything that the Govern- that we should this people in, and have none other State in the Union, and her fields are ment has not invited them to ask. This is the of this little jealousy.

not half touched. feast to which the Government invited them, Mr. President, I insist upon it that the Com- A word more, sir, and I shall have done. and they come as soon as they may. They | mittee on Territories, when they laid this The committee, at its last meeting, reported have come here clad in the garments of loy: | report on the honorable Senator's desk, laid it an amendment to this bill which takes away alty to this Government, and I insist upon it there with full as much confidence in its cor- all the objections of the Senator from Verthat the honorable Senator from Vermont is rectness as he has in the statements of Mr. mont. The Senators-elect from Colorado had not at liberty to treat them with that disrespect || Teller. There is the fruit of the examination been here so long waiting for my honorable which he so earnestly and so short-handedly of the committee; and I can say that this sub. friend's and other's minds to open to the did this morning.

ject has not only been examined now, but it occasion, that they thought their time was We had the question up a year or two ago,

has been under the examination of that com- served ont, and in order to prevent any feel. and the honorable Senator on my left [Mr. mittee for more than two years.

ing upon that score, the committee reported SUMNER] took grounds against it, because he Mr. MORTON. I should like to ask my an amendment providing for a new election wanted a greater number of population. Şir, | friend from Nevada a question which I think of a Legislature, with this proviso added to that it does not make so much odds what the number is material to the decision we are about to section : is as what the quality is. That is what makes make. I want to ask him the population of Provided, That before being admitted to represent, a State, the energy of the people. What are Colorado, and what data and what evidence he ation in Congress, the Legislature so elected and you going to do with Colorado? You have has got on that subject?

convened shall ratify the amendment to the Consti. admitted Nebraska on the one side with a

tution of the United States, known as the fourteenth Mr. NYE. I was coming to that. I read

article, and also the fundamental conditions hercin population less than hers, or no more; you from the report of the committee:

imposed. And in case said Legislature shall refuse have admitted Nevada on the other to the "The Commissioner of the General Land Office"

to ratify said amendment and said conditions this

act shall be pull and void. same feast, on the same invitation; and now

who is generally suspected to have about as the honorable Senator from Vermont rises here much information as Teller

If the honorable Senator has faith in the and says to Colorado, “Notwithstanding you "in his last report estimates the present population

representation of Mr. Teller, that the people of are invited and the feast prepared, yet two of Colorado at about one hundred thousand. Others

Colorado do not want to become a State, let meals liave been eaten, and you shall not have estimate it at from seventy-five to one hundred him vote for this bill, and they will have in two the other; we are going to keep that in

thousand. While these may be over estimates, the
facts above cited show that thirty or forty thousand,

months the opportunity to say so by their vote. reserve until you grow to be a great people. as claimed by the opponents of admission, must be

Before they can come into the Union, a new Look at the reasoning of the honorable Sena- too low."

Legislature must be elected and convened, and tor. He is going to wait until they grow up Then it goes on to state the population of

that Legislature must ratify the constitutional suficiently to make two or three States before other States at the time of their admission:

amendment, Thus the people of Colorado he will admit them. What a sensible thing

"Obio was admitted in 1802. The census of 1800

have the full opportunity of deciding upon the that will be, to keep these Territories until gave her a population of forty-five thousand and question whether they will be admitted or not, they get population enough to make two or twenty-eight,

and I contend that it is not fair to avoid rethree States, so that they can be divided up! Mr. FESSENDEN. What was the ratio of submitting the opportunity this bill presents Why did you not think of that when you representation then?

to Colorado of becoming one of the family of admitted Arkansas ? Why did you not think Mr. NYE. I do not remember-less than this nation. It is due to their interests, it of that when you admitied Florida ? Why did it is now.

is due to the interests of this Government, it is you not think of that in the case of Rhode Mr. FESSENDEN. Was not that popula- due to the growing interests of that people, Island? We poll more votes in my State to. tion then equal to the ratio ?

that they should have the protection which day than they do in the State of Rhode Island; Mr. SUMNER. That was required under only a State government can give. and yet we find no fault about it. To be sure, the ordinance that there should be enough for Mr. HENDRICKS. I had supposed, from we are not all huddled in together as they are a member.

the statement made by the Senator from Illitbere; but we are spread out upon wide Mr. NYE. Does the honorable Senator | nois, [Mr. Yates,] that this bill would excite extended plains, and in the mountain gorges : from Massachusetts mean to say that it was

very little controversy. I understood from his but what of that? We are one people. We very irregular or illegal to admit a State with statement made on Friday are there beating the mountains fine, in scrip: less population than that?

Mr. MORRILL, of Vermont. Will the tural parlance, and filling up the valleys; and

Mr. SUMNER. I simply mean to say that Senator from Indiana yield to me for a few yet to-day, with the marks of our swaddling the rule under the original ordinance for the clothes still upon us, the whistle of the engine | Northwest Territory required that there should

moments, that I may say a few words to the

Senator from Nevada? and the rattling of the train is heard in that

be population enough to choose one Represent- Mr. HENDRICKS. With great pleasure. new-born State. ative in the House of Representatives ?

Mr. MORRILL, of Vermont. Mr. Presimy honorable friend says he would keep

Mr. NYE. I undertake to say that accordus in a territorial condition until we get large ing to that rule Obio had not enough; and have permitted myself to say anything on this

dent, it is, perhaps, unfortunate that I should enough to make three or four States, so that there was no rule then existing that does not subject; but if I had not, I should never have Congress could cnt it up and equalize it. Why, exist now for the admission of States. Il given the chance for the exhibition of wit which sir, the claim of the West is that New England undertake to say that the rule stands as it has the Senator from Nevada always bas at his disbas got too small States. She huddles twelve

ever stood, precisely; and

I assert that at the posal; but take away the perversions, take Senators right in a nest there. I share not in

time Ohio was admitted she had not the rethat feeling. The complaint of the East is that quisite number for a Representative in Con

away the misstatements, not intentional, of the States of the West are too large; but that

course, as to what I said, and there will be very, gress; neither had Illinois. I read from the gives the last always the preponderance. Sir, report of the committee:

little foundation for any of the remarks of the

Seuator from Nevada. I have said nothing who would strike at Ohio because she is larger

"Illinois was admitted in 1818. The census of 1820, derogatory of Colorado, or of any of ber citithan Vermont? Who would strike off Illinois, two years after, gave her a white population of 53,188. Four years after the admission of Florida,

I merely called attention to the fact, as admitted with a population of forty-five thou. the census of 1850 gave her a white population of

I believe, that she has an insufficient populasand, because she spreads so widely over the

47,203. Two years after the admission of Oregon tho țion to support a State government or to entitle prairies, and to-day attracts the eyes of the census of 1860 gave her a population of 52,337. The census of 1820 gave the white population of Missouri

her to representation in Congress. I believe world for her aggregated wealth? Who would at 55.988. She made application that year, and was

the fact to be so, and notwithstanding the statestrike Wisconsin, because she is larger than

finally admitted in 1821. A number of other States Massachusetts, from the sisterhood of States ? were admitted with evidence of no more population

ments here of the Commissioner of the GenWho that has looked at the growth of the great tban is indicated in Colorado."

eral Land Office upon no substantial basis that Northwest, magical as it has been, would com.

Now, Mr. President, I have to say, in con

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itants in that Territory. I believe that no vote Mr. CRAGIN. I am aware of the fact sug- the bill under consideration, I ask the Senator they have given, that no census which has been gested by the Senator from Indiana that in the from Maine to allow us to dispose of the bill taken, will show that they have at the present early settlement of a mining Territory the for the recognition of the State government in time any more than thirty or thirty-five thou- males largely preponderate ; but Colorado has Arkansas, which was returned by the Presisand inhabitants.

been settled now some eight years. In 1860, I dent with his objections on Saturday. The Mr. HENDRICKS. I ask the Senator when will inform the Senator-he seems not to be Senate was not full when the message came in, was any such opinion as that expressed by the aware of it--the census taken by the United and I suppose it will probably lead to no disCommissioner of the General Land Office ? States showed over thirty-four thousand inhab- 1 cussion, as the matter has already been fully

Mr. MORRILL, of Vermont. I understood itants; but since that time eight years have discussed. It is very likely that we can take the Senator from Nevada to quote the opinion passed away and Colorado has become settled | the vote on that question at once, and it is a of the Commissioner of the General Land Office, permanently; men have gone there with their matter that we ought to act upon, being in the giving an estimate of something like one hun families, and the number of women and chil- nature of a privileged matter. If the Senator dred thousand population; but taking the esti- dren has vastly increased in proportion to from Maine will consent to let the appropriainate of the amount of population according to what was evidenced by the census of 1860. I tion bill be laid aside for a few moments, I any vote of the Territory, and admitting that have not the slighest doubt, from what appeared think we can get the vote on the Arkansas bill. they have as large a population in proportion before the Committee on l'erritories, and from I suggest, therefore, that the appropriation bill to the vote as Oregon or California, and they information that I gather generally, that the be laid aside temporarily for that pnrpose. cannot have to-day much more than about population of Colorado is to-day from sixty-five Mr. MORRILL, of Maine. Considering the thirty thousand inhabitants. to eighty thousand inhabitants.

character of that measure, I will consent to Mr. CRAGIN. Will the Senator allow me Mr. MORRILL, of Maine. I now ask my the proposition, with the understanding that if to make a suggestion on that point?

friend from Illinois, [Mr. YATES,] who has it leads to discussion I shall be at liberty to Mr. MORRILL, of Vermont. I only wish charge of this bill, to allow House bill No. resume the consideration of the appropriation to say a word more myself, and then I shall 605 to come up. I understood him to say he bill. yield the floor entirely. 'All I desire is that we would not antagonize the bill with it.

Mr. TRUMBULL. Yes, sir. Let it be shall have some rule established by which we Mr. YATES. I do not intend to antagonize,

laid aside informally in that way. are to admit these States, and hold out even- but I will say to the Senator that I do not think The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The bill handed justice to them all. I would not allude there will be much more debate on this bill. before the Senate may be laid aside informally further to the vote of the State but for the fact Mr. EDMUNDS. You cannot get a vote if there be no objection. No objection being that the Senator from Nevada bas rather inti. immediately.

made, it will so be laid aside, mated that these votes out there are all right. Mr. MORRILL, of Maine. Let it go over. Mr. TRUMBULL, I ask that the Senate Now, I have not a particle of doubt that when. Mr. YATES. It can be passed over inform- now proceed with the consideration of the bill ever this State is admitted it will be what we ally so as to be first in order.

returned by the President, relative to the recog. sometimes call a copperhead State; and if the The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The bill nition of the State government of Arkansas. vote of the people is fairly taken they will be can be passed over informally, if there be no The PRESIDENT pro tempore. If there be represented by those who are opposed to the objection.

no objection, that bill will be regarded as gentlemen who usually sit ou this side of the Mr. HENDRICKS. I do object, for the

before the Senate. The question is on the Chamber.

reason that the Senator froin Pennsylvania passage of the bill, the objections of the PresiMr. CRAGIN. The Senator from Vermont

dent of the United States to the contrary not(Mr. BUCKALEW] desires to be heard on this says that the vote in Colorado, nine thousand Colorado bill, and he cannot be here this after- withstanding. This question must be taken three hundred and forty-nine, would not show

by yeas and nays. a population of more than thirty thousand. I Mr. MORRILL, of Maine. Then I move

Mr. DAVIS. Mr. President, I cannot conbeg to state to the Senator from Vermont that

that the Senate proceed to the consideration sent that the vote on this question shall be I have made a calculation compared with the of House bill No. 605, of which I gave notice,

taken without some debate. vote of the State of Vermont. The population and with which my friend from Illinois assured Mr. MORRILL, of Maine. Will the Sention in Vermont is about three hundred and me that he would not antagonize.

ator yield to me? eighteen thousand. Her vote at the last elec- Mr. HOWARD. Mr. President, I regret to

Mr. DAVIS. Certainly. tion was forty-two thousand one hundred and antagonize the bill before the Senate on Friday

Mr. MORRILL, of Maine. As this leads to twenty-five; about one in seven. The vote of last with the one which has been mentioned

debateColorado was nine thousand three hundred and by the honorable Senator from Maine, but I

Mr. TRUMBULL. Not a long debate. forty-nine. That multiplied by seven gives am really very anxious to dispose of the bill Mr. MORRILL, of Maine. I should think sixty-five thousand four hundred and forty- relating to the central branch of the Pacific it would be pretty long by the books on the three, estimating the population in the same railroad, and I gave notice on Friday that I

desk of the Senator from Kentucky, proportion to the vote as is the case in Ver

Mr. TRUMBULL, I think we had better should at the close of the morning hour to-day

call up that bill for the purpose of finishing go on with this bill and finish it. I hope the Mr. MORRILL, of Vermont. Will the Sen the discussion and coming to a vote upon it.

Senator from Maine will not interpose. We ator take the vote of New Hampshire, and, I hope, therefore, the Senate will see fit to tak can hear the Senator from Kentucky, and then admitting that we have as many ‘able-bodied

take the vote. up that bill again and proceed to dispose of it. men entitled to vote in Vermont as in New If it be the desire of the Senate to do so, I will

Mr. MORRILL, of Maine. But I underHampshire, see how it is there?

stood the honorable Senator from Illinois to agree that in case the Senator from Maine Mr. CRAGIN. I am aware of the differ

wishes to proceed with his appropriation bill agree that if this bill led to discussion I should ence in the vote of the two States. I contend after the central branch bill is taken up it

be at liberty to call up the appropriation bill that a vote in a sparsely-settled Territory, espe- shall be laid aside informally in order to accom

again. cially a mining country, is no indication what- modate him.

Mr. TRUMBULL. I did, and if there is ever of the population. In my State, where Mr. EDMUNDS. That will be objected to. to be any protracted discussion on this bill I every man votes, where the parties are close Mr. MORTON. I think this policy of dis

shall not insist upon it; but I have no idea and nearly every vote is bronght out, there is | cussing a bill fora time and then laying it aside

that there will be. a very large vote, indeed. to take up another bill is one very wasteful and

Mr. MORRILL, of Maine. There was no Mr. EDMUNDS. What per cent. of the prodigal in its character. It would be better

protracted” about it, it was discussion." population vote in your State ? for the Senate now to dispose of the Colorado

There is discussion; and now I call for the Mr. CRAGIN. 'About one in four and a bill, because if it is put off until'to-morrow regular order. you will have this discussion all over again and

Mr. TRUMBULL. If the Senator insists Mr. HENDRICKS. Will the Senator from perhaps more of it. Here are two other bills upon it, I suppose I must give way: New Hampshire allow me to call bis attention pressing, and if we postpone this now the time

The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The regular to ope fact? In estimating the population which has been spent this morning in the con

order will be proceeded with. The bill (É. R. from the vote in a mineral country, is the Sen. ator not aware that the voting population is

sideration of it will be virtually lost. I have No. 605) making appropriations for the legis

not been here long, but I have seen much time lative, executive, and judicial expenses of the very much larger in proportion to the entire wasted in that way, and I think the policy is a Government for the year ending the 30th of population than in an agricultural State? To illustrate, is the Senator not aware of the fact very bad one.

June, 1869, is before the Senate as in Commit

The PRESIDENT that in 1860 the census of Colorado showed a

pro tempore. The

tee of the Whole. It will be read, and as the


tion is on the motion of the Senator from amendments reported by the Committee on population of twenty-five thousand ? Maine.

Appropriations are reached in their regular Mr. CRAGIN. Thirty-four thousand and Bome odd.

The motion was agreed to.

order in the reading of the bill they will be

acted upon if there be no objection. Mr. HENDRICKS. Twenty-five thousand LEGISLATIVE, ETC., APPROPRIATION BILL.

The Chief Clerk proceeded to read the bill, is the last census that was taken in 1860; and The Senate, as in Committee of the Whole, the amendments reported by the Committee of the entire population there were of women proceeded to consider the bill (H. R. No. 605) on Appropriations being acted on in their and children ander twenty-one about six thou- | making appropriations for the legislative, exec- order as recited in the reading of the bill. sand, and the residue, according to the census, | utive, and judicial expenses of the Govern- The first amendment was to insert "clerk was a voting population; so that there were three or four or five of voting population to

ment for the year ending the 30th of June, to Committee on Appropriations, $2,220'' in 1869.

lines forty-four, forty-fivo, and forty-six, in the Mr. TRUMBULL. Before proceeding with clause making appropriations " for compensa.



one non-voting.



tion of the officers, clerks, messengers, and to be reduced. Here I see that the captain gets ping around here at his leisure holding converothers receiving an annual salary in the service above two thousand dollars ; two lieutenants sations with agreeable people in the halls of of the Senate."

$1,800, each, which is the compensation of a this Capitol? The one is a loafering sort of The amendment was agreed to.

chief clerk of a bureau, I believe ; and then there | life; the other is a life of real labor. A man The next amendment was in line fifty. are thirty privates with a compensation larger can very well afford to step around here withthree, to strike out “$08,704 80,” and insert than the great body of the clerks in the Depart- out fatigue for twelve hours, while there is "$100,924 80," as the gross appropriation for

ments. First-class clerks get $1,200, but these great fatigue in the other case. officers, &c., receiving an annual salary in the privates are to have $1,584 each, thirty of them. I think this appropriation can be very much service of the Senate.

I understood that the business of retrenchment | reduced. My inpression is that years ago The amendment was agreed to.

was to commence somewhere, and I think we there used to be four or five policemen around The next amendment was in line fifty-six, to

may as well commence right here. It is a small this Capitol. It has grown up to be a decided strike out “twenty five" and insert" ten;" 80

matter to notice, perhaps, but I think both the force. Here is provision for a captain, two as to reduce the appropriation for stationery Capitol and the rate of compensation may be

number of policemen employed about this lieutenants, thirty privates, and twelve watchfor the Senate to $10,000.

en-forty-five men. Forty-five men to preThe amendment was agreed to.

very materially decreased, so as to save at least serve order in this Capitol, where there never

twenty thousand dollars in this item. I proThe next amendment was in line fifty-seven,

has been any disorder that I have heard of, pose, now, to strike out “two thousand and where there is scarcely any policeman necesto strike from the appropriations for the con

sary! The law ought to be changed. To pay tingent expenses of the Senate the item for eighty-eight dollars ” as the salary of the cap

tain, and insert “fifteen hundred dollars ;? them at these rates is simply remarkable, in newspapers, $5,000," and in lieu thereof insert:

and if this be agreed to, and a corresponding my opinion. For newspapers and stationery for seventy-four reduction takes place throughout, I shall proSenators, to the amount of $125 each, $9.250.

In answer to the other suggestion of the SenThe amendment was agreed to.

pose, at the close of the section, an amend. ator, I propose, if the Senate shall be of opinion

ment declaring that these rates shall be the that this litile matter ought to be amended at The next amendment was in line sixty-four, to rates of compensation, so as to change the law all, to add at the close of this paragraph a prostrikeout second before session and insert in that respect.

vision that the new rates shall be fixed as the "third ;" so as to make the clause read as fol- Mr. MORRILL, of Maine. I should like to compensation of these men. I propose to put lows, among the items of contingent expenses have the Senate understand precisely what this the thirty privates at just the pay that the firstof the Senate:

proposition is. It is a proposition to appro- class clerks in the Departments receive, $1,200. For reporting and printing the proceedings in the priate a less sum of money than the officer is It is the pleasure of Congress, I believe, now Daily Globe for the third session of'the Fortieth Con- entitled to by the law of Congress. If my hon- fixed, that the clerks of the Departments shall gress, $15,000.

orable friend were to propose to modify or reThe amendment was agreed to.

not have twenty per cent, additional compenpeal so much of the law as provides for this sation, so that ihey do not get the benefit of The next amendment was in line seventy- il compensation, he would be proceeding per- the usual provision. I thiok we had better two, to strike out “three thousand" and insert | haps regularly, but I can bardly conceive ihat come down to about the same rates in regard "flieen hundred,” and in line seventy-four, to it would be becoming propriety to propose to to men who do not discharge intellectual labor, strike out $15,000” and insert “ $10,000;'' || appropriate for an officer a less salary than is | but simply watch around this Capitol and do 80 as to make the clause read, among the items provided for by the law creating the office. nothing except to step about. of contingent expenses of the Senate, as fol- I wish to say a word in reply to the honor- The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The ques. lows:

able Senator from Indiana on another point. tion is on the amendment of the Senator from For paying the publishers of the Congressional He institutes a comparison between the ser- Indiana to the amendment of the Committee Globe and Appendix, according to the number of vices of these police officers and those of clerks copies taken, one cent for every five pages exceeding

on Appropriations. fifteen hundred, including the indexes and the laws

in tbe Departments. These officers are on duty Mr. HENDRICKS called for the yeas and of the United States, $10,000.

twelve hoars a day. The Senator need not be nays; and they were ordered. The amendment was agreed to.

told, I suppose, that the clerks to whom he Mr. SHERMAN. I should like to have the The next amendment was in line eighty, to

refers serve only six hours, and they receive all law read which fixes the pay of these officers. reduce the appropriation “for packing boxes the way from fourteen hundred dollars

I think myself the salaries are too high, but I

Mr. HENDRICKS. Twelve hundred. for Senators" from "$3,500” to “$1,000.'

wish to see whether the law fixes them. The amendment was agreed to.

Mr. MORRILL, of Maine. They receive Mr. HENDRICKS. I will modify myamend

from twelve hundred to two thousand dollars ment so as to say, instead of $1,500, $1,800 The next amendment was in line one hun. for a service of six hours a day; these men for the captain of police, and I propose further dred and thirty-six, to strike out“ eleven' and receive from fifteen to eighteen hundred dol- to amend the clause by fixing for the two lieu. insert "six."

lars for a service of twelve hours a day; so that tenants $1,600 each instead of $1,800, and for The amendment was agreed to.

my honorable friend will see that upon the the thirty privates $1,200 each, so as to make The next amendment was to strike out line score of merit, or upon the score of hours' ser- them correspond with the grades of clerks in one hundred and thirty-nine in these words - for vice actually rendered, the disparity is not near the Departments, and I propose to leave the Capitol police, $64,000," and in lieu thereof as great as it ought to be. In proportion to watchmen at $1,000, as they are. to insert:

service the salary of these men ought to be Mr. MORRILL, of Maine. I should like For one captain, $2.800; two lieutenants, at $1,800

increased instead of being diminished. I sub- to have the Senate understand exactly what each, $3,600; thirty privates, at $1,584 cach, $47,520; mit to my friend that on examination he will this proposition is. It is a proposition to twelve watchmon, at $1,000 each, $12,000; one super- not find the disparity which he supposes to intendent in the crypt, $1,440; uniforms, $1.600; con

change the compensation of the Capitol police exist. tingent expenses, $500; making in all $71,748; one

as established by law last year. The Senator half to be paid into the contingent fund of the Sen- Mr. HENDRICKS. We never estimate the from Indiana thinks the police power of the ate and the other half into the contingent fund of the amount of compensation by the number of Capitol larger than it need be.

That may House of Representatives.

hours; it is by the qualifications that are reMr. HENDRICKS. I wish to ask the chair

be so; but the committee who reported the quisite to fill the place. The chief clerk of a man of the Committee on Appropriations if

organization last year did not think so. He Department must have such information, such this appropriation cannot be very materially ) scholarship, such business training as will

says there are forty. This is a large buildreduced. I see here for policeman a bigher enable him to take charge of very large mat

ing, and it is to be policed every hour in the

year. He says the duties are somewhat unimrate of compensation than is allowed to genıle

Take the case of the chief clerk of the portant and not clerical. They may not be men in the Departments doing clerical duty; Third Auditor's office. Millions of dollars pass as for instance, the captain gets more than the through that office annually; I believe some

clerical; but I think a single moment's reflec

tion will satisfy anybody that they are not chief clerk of a bureau, more than the chief

years hundreds of millions. A man is paid clerk of the General Land Office, for example. || about eighteen hundred or two thousand dol

unimportant. They have the entire charge

and responsibility of this building, its safety, That should not be so.

lars a year for taking charge of that sort of Mr. MORRILL, of Maino. Allow me to

its order, and the order of everybody, that business as chief clerk of the bureau. Take attends here. The Senator says he bas heard explain?

the General Land Office, where the operations of no disorder. Mr. HENDRICKS. Certainly.

of the bureau extend over many States and Mr. HENDRICKS. Does not the SergeantMr. MORRILL, of Maine. This appropri- || Territories, having large questions to setule, the at-Arms have charge of this building? ation is in exact conformity with the provisions chief clerk contributing very materially to the Mr. MORRILL, of Maine. No, sir. If of the law reorganizing the police, which was settlement of all questions in the office, with a my friend would reflect a moment he would reorganized in 1867; and in addition to the salary of eighteen hundred or two thousand

see that the Sergeant-at-Arms has nothing to compensation, or as part of the compensation, | dollars a year. Although he may spend but do with the charge of this building. The that law provided for uniforming these police- six or eight hours a day, what is the compari

Sergeant-at-Arms is doorkeeper of the Senate. men, and that enters into a part of the expense. son between him and a man who steps around Mr. HENDRICKS. The clothing of these here to see that there is no disturbance ? There he has no oversight whatever over this build.

He may have some specific duties here; but gentlemen is provided for in this same section. is no comparison as to the real labor that is Mr. MORRILL, of Maine. What I mean performed. What comparison can there be

ing. Now, I submit respectfully to the Senate

that the Senator has no information which to say is that the amendment is in conformity between a man who sits down at his desk and authorized him to ask the judgment of the to the statute organizing the Capitol police, | for six hours closely applies himself to intel.

Senate on this proposition. wbich was passed last year. lectual labor attending to important questions

If the law ought to be ehanged, let it be Mr. AENDRICKS. I think these sums ought ll that come before him, and a man that is step

changed on the suggestion of the proper com.



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mittee. A committee of both branches organ- || proposition upon which it is about to vote. I tion shall be put upon its true ground. If the ized the police department last year, system- have listened to the Senator from Indiana with captain of the police force has offended seriatized it; and this was the result. Now the a good deal of interest, and I admire the zealously, let us punish him by all means. honorable Senator proposes to organize anew, which he shows for retrenchment and reform. Mr. HENDRICKS. Mr. President, it is as I submit without the necessary information. I admire also the particular point at which he always fair to let a Senator stand upon the There was no option on our part but to make begins his policy of retrenchment and reform. reasons that he gives for himself. One reason the appropriation as it is. If the Senate think I should not be surprised if his speech would assigned by the Senator from Illinois, [Mr. that it is safe to follow the lead of the Senator | figure in the approaching canvass for President. YATES,] if it had been original with him, would in making this amendment they will so vote. But, sir, I prefer that retrenchment and reform have entitled him to rauk as a genius, perhaps ;

Mr. HENDRICKS. There were oneor two | which aim to retrench the Government's ex- but inasmuch as the Senator from Nevada, suggestions made by the Senator from Maine | penses in some important particular. I have || [Mr. Nye,] a few days ago, was the author of that rather surprised me. He says if this is to no great admiration for an attack upon clerks the suggestion about some future political be done at all it ought to be done by the com. | or upon subordinate officers ; I do not believe movements, the Senator from Illinois has not mittee. Then submit to the Senate that we in expending time in the discussion of what even the virtue of originality in his suggestion. adjourn and let the committee pass this bill. the salary of a police officer shall be so that In the proposition that I have made I have not If my voice is not to be heard in regard to the the time costs more than the salary itself would | thought of the future. I do not trouble my public expenditures, I had better quit be. I have had no person appointed to one || head with that. I guess the Senator thinks :

Mr. MORRILL, of Maine. The Senator of these offices; I am not acquainted with one good deal more about nominations to be made quite misunderstood me. I said that this sub- of these policemen that I know of; but is it in the future than I do. If he is troubled as ject of revising the organization of the Capitol an unreasonable amount to pay the head of little about that as I am his sleep will not be police ought not to come from this committee; police force the Capitol the sum of disturbed at nights. that the subject having been once determined by a committee, the revision of it ought to utation for retrenchment and reform as to say

knows that there was a sufficient reason for come from the appropriate committee.

that $2,800 is too much for the head of an rebuking the captain of police, and, therefore, Mr. HENDRICKS. Then the Senator sug: important department like this.

he has suggested—I had not thought of that ; gested next to the Senate whether they had Mr. HENDRICKS. The Senator is mis- I am glad the Senator bas suggested it; it had better follow my lead. I ask no Senator to taken in the bill he is advocating. He puts

not entered into my hcad--that a policeman follow my lead. The Senator from Maine is a the salary at $720 more than the bill provides. here refused to do credit and honor to the flag leader; his official position makes him Mr. YATES. Two thousand eight hundred that was honored everywhere that Sergeant leader dollars I believe it is.

Bates carried through the southern States. Mr. MORRILL, of Maine. Mr. President, Mr. HENDRICKS. Two thousand and eighty

Mr. CONNESS. Ah, that was his name! I do not allow the Senator to misrepresent dollars.

Mr. HENDRICKS. That flag had not reMr. YATES. Then it is less than I would ceived an insult anywhere until it came back, Mr. HENDRICKS. That is exactly what be willing to pay. The Senator says that this in the hands of a gallant soldier, to the Capithe Senator said.

Capitol does not require a police force of forty tol of the United States. Indeed, a captain of Mr. MORRILL, of Maine. I said no such men. I think it would be a degradation to police that would do such a thing ought to be thing, and dreamed of no such thing as the people of the United States to say that a rebuked, and I thank the Senator from Caliadmonishing the Senate not to follow the lead building like this, so extensive, the Capitol of fornia for suggesting so strong an argument. of the Senator. What I did suggest, most | the United States, could be expected to have But, sir, my only reason for moving the respectfully as I said, was that the Senator a police force of less than forty or forty-five amendment was that I thought the compensahad not the information which justified him in men. I am sure that the Senate has not wisely || tion fixed for these men by existing law was moving the proposition. That is what I said. || considered this proposition of retrenchment unreasonably high, and that we might save And, sir, I do not allow the Senator to rise

and reform, and is beginning at the wrong end. some ten or twenty or thirty thousand dolhere and put into my mouth a leadership I do not think the salary allowed this officer is lars; not much, perhaps; it may not be worth which I neither assume nor ascribe to bim. at all unreasonable, and therefore I shall vote saving. The Senator from Illinois, as a test Mr. HENDRICKS. The Senator did not against the Senator's amendment.

now of the certainty and accuracy of his judg. ascribe any leadership to me

Mr. CONNESS. Mr. President, the honor- ment upon the question, thought the captain Mr. MORRILL, of Maine. No.

able Senator from Indiana has a reason that I of the police was getting $2,800, and he Mr. HENDRICKS. But he submitted to apprehend has not been developed for this raid thonght that was little enough, and that it the Senate whether, in regard to this amend- of his against the Capitol police, and I desire ought not to be reduced, when that was more ment, it was best to follow my lead.

that he shall have the benefit of it. He, per- than $700 above what the bill provides. So he Mr. MORRILL, of Maine. No.

haps, was too modest to proclaim it here; is mistaken in all of his estimates on the subMr. HENDRICKS. That is the word the but the Capitol police, I believe, have really ject. I think the proposition I have offered to Senator used, and I know it. I am speaking || offended him seriously. On an occasion not the Senate is enough, and therefore I submit in the best of humor,

long since there was a remarkable character it. If it is the pleasure of the Senate to conMr. MORRILL, of Maine. So am I. of this country who charged himself, either at tinue the salaries as they are, be it so.

Mr. HENDRICKS. I do not want any. his instance or at the instance of other patriotic Mr. SHERMAN. I think the salaries named thing else about this matter but the best persons in the country, with carrying the by the Senator from Indiana are ample to feeling toward the Senator from Maine, for I American flag from one end of the Union to secure the services of these officers, and ordi. bave great respect for him; but I submit to

the other, or rather from the South to the narily. I should vote with him. My judgment the Senate that I have all the information on national Capitol, beginning somewhere down is decidedly in favor of his amendment, but it this subject that it is necessary to have to South on the Mississippi-I do not remember seems that two years ago Congress passed a judge of it, and I say that when the laws of now where--and he was feasted, I think, all | provision allowing all the clerks and employés the country fix the salary of the chief clerk of the way through, and the late rebels gave in

in the Executive Departments twenty per cent. an important bureau at $2,000, or at $1,800 a their adhesion to the flag, and this patriotic additional compensation, but it was so worded year, it is absurd that a captain of police at hero bore the standard to this Capitol. The as to confine it to a single year; but when Con. | last crowning act of to been

clerks and ous, and in no respect ought the compensa- some misunderstanding, or other, as to juris- as to increase the compensation twenty per

diction, I think, the police interfered with his cent. permanently, and subsequently the same We can judge of the salary that ought to be going up to perform that service. But after year they inserted a provision in one of the given to these persons. The fact that it was some consultation, I think the Sergeant-at- appropriation bills that increased the pay of fixed by a law passed a year or two ago does Arms, under whose direction to some extent the police in the same way : not prevent the consideration of the question the police are, agreed that the flag should be

"The Capitol police and the policemen at the

Executive Mansion shall be entitled to the increased now. I believe that the proposition I have raised as contemplated; but by that time the

compensation allowed by law to the officers, clerks, made gives a liberal compensation to these per- patriotic men who formed the escort of this

messengers, and others in the employ of the Governsons. I am willing that they shall be well paid, patriot determined that they had been offended

The House of Representatives have refused class of men at home cannot make

anything nantly. Iam inclined to think that that has to continue the twenty per cent. to the em: like so much money. The salaries that I pro- rested in the mind of our friend from Indiana | ployés of the Executive Departments, but by pose will command the services of faithful and from that time to this, and that the Capitol law the compensation of the employés of both good men. There is no difficulty about that. police are not acceptable to him when they Houses of Congress, the Capitol police, &c., I do not want to disturb the efficiency of the perform their duty in that way.

is permanently increased twenty per cent. service by reducing the salaries below what If the Senator will state to me that that is the There is no justice and no reason in such legisthey ought to be ; but in these times the sala- cause of their offense against bim, and he will lation, and no man can defend it. If there is ries ought to be fixed at such rates as will indorse the statement that the captain of the a reason for increasing the compensation of secure good service. I believe the proposition police force or any part of it violated what was a our own officers the same reason should apply I have made will secure it. Upon that I want courtesy or a rule of right in the premises, I to those of the Executive Departments, and

will agree to go with him in obtaining such with much more torce, because they are emMr. YATES. Mr. President, I think it is meed of satisfaction as the case demands. Iployed all the year round, while ours, on the well enough for the Senate to understand the wished to make this statement so that the ques- average are not employed over five months in

are not as responsible; they are not as cardus raising women fag from the Dome; bend the employés they made the language scleges erad

tion be so large.


the yeas and naye.

the year.

Such discriminating legislation in "four” and insert “three," and to strike out ever he pleases from the Army or from any favor of our own employés is, to say the in line two hundred and thirty-eight “$3,456 *: branch of the service to perform just such least, not very creditable to Congress.

and insert "$2,592;" so as to make the clause duties as he chooses, why Congress should be But as this whole subject is now being con. read:

called upon to make these additional approsidered by a select committee of the two For three laborers, at $864 each, $2,592.

priations. Houses I think it would not be wise to strike The amendment was agreed to.

Mr. SHERMAN. I should like to ask the down the compensation of the Capitol police

Senator from Maine by what authority the until that committee report. I understand

The next amendment was in line two hun.

President has the right to detail an officer of the Senator from Maine [Mr. FESSENDEN] is

dred and forty, to strike out "two" and insert almost prepared to report a bill from that "three," and in line two hundred and forty

the Army to perform clerical duties? I know committee.

it has been done; but I do not know what law For this reason, though I agree

one, to increase the appropriation from $2,880 || would authorize it. with the Senator from Indiana, that the comto $4,320; so as to make the clause read:

Mr. MORRILL, of Maine. My friend knows pensation named by him is enough, I feel

For three assistant librarians, at $1,440 each, $4,320.

that such is the fact. inclined to vote against the amendment, in the The amendment was agreed to.

Mr. SHERMAN. Yes, sir; I know it is hope that we may at the same time bring back The next amendment was after line two hun- done. the standard of pay of all the employés about || dred and eighty, to strike out the following Mr. MORRILL, of Maine. Colonel Moore the Capitol to what it was before the change in | clause:

is a paymaster in the Army. He is one of the the law.

For compensation to the Private Secretary, assist- acting secretaries certainly of the President of Mr. SPRAGUE, Before the vote is taken, ant secretary, short-hand writer, clerk of pardons, the United States, as we have bad occasion to I wish to say that my colleague (Mr. ANTHONY)

threo clerks of fourth class, steward, and messenger
of the President of the United States, $18.800.

know this morning, and as I suppose is well has been called home by the death of his

known, and he has been for, perhaps, years. brother.

And to insert in lieu thereof the following: || Therefore I submit to my honorable friend The question being taken by yeas and days,

For compensation to the Private Secretary, one from Ohio, that it is not interfering in any resulted-yeas 11, nays 19; as follows:

clerk of class four, stoward, and inessenger of the
President of the United States, $8.900: Provider,

sense which would be an embarrassment to YEAS–Messrs. Davis, Doolittle, Ferry. IIarlan, That so much of the fourth section of the act of July the President with his official family. He still Hendricks, McCreery, Morrill of Vermont, Patterson 23, 1866, making appropriation for legislative, execuof Tennessee, Saulsbury, Sherman, and Sprague-11.

has left to him all the force that President tive, and judicialexpenses of the Government for the NAYS--Messrs. Chandler, Cole, Conkling, Corbett, year ending June 30, 1867, as authorizes the President

Lincoln had during his entire administration ; Cragin, Dixon, Fessenden, flowe, Jobnson, Morgan, of the United States to appoint an assistantsecretary,

all that was found to be necessary in 1865; Morrill of Maine, Nye, Ramsey, Sumner, Thayer, a short-hand writer, a clerk of pardons, and two clerks Trumbull, Wade, Willey, and Yates-19.

and in addition to that he bas this detailed of the fourth class is hereby repealed. ABSENT--Mesers. Anthony, Bayard, Buckalew,

assistant secretary. If there is anything to be Cameron, Cattell, Conness, Drake, Edmunds, Fowler,

Mr. SHERMAN. I should like to have said in favor of the retention of these officers Hrelinghuysen,Grimes, Henderson, floward, Morton, Norton, Patterson of New Hampshire, Pomeroy,

some reason given for this amendment. It the committee were not informed of it. }f Ross, Stewart, Tipton, Van Winklo, Vickers, Wil

proposes to repeal entirely the law regulating || any argument could be made on that point it liams, and Wilson-24.

the official family of the President. That law | might be as to one of the two clerks that are So the amendment to the amendment was

was prepared, I know, with a great deal of care struck out; but as to the clerk of pardons and rejected.

a few years ago. There were only a small the assistant secretary it is impossible to The amendment of the Committee on Ap

number of officers allotted to the President's conceive that the President can require either propriations was agreed to.

House and employed by him, and they were the pardon clerk or an additional secretary to The next amendment was in line one hun.

constantly employed, and were said to be the two he already has. The committee were dred and sixty-six, to strike out "three thou

insufficient. It seems to me we ought not to not informed that there was any state of things sand" and insert " fifteen hundred;" so as to

change this law, especially at the incoming of at the executive department that requires any make the clause read as follows, among the

a new Adininistration. If there is any good force as to clerks beyond what existed in 1865.

reason for it, I should like to hear it from the contingent expenses of the IIouse of Repre

If the Senator from Ohio has any information sentatives: Senator having charge of the bill.

in regard to the clerks that are struck out liere

Mr. MORRILL, ot Maine. It did not occur For paying the publishers of the Congressional

he can state it. Globe and Appendix, according to the number of

to the committee that they were interfering Mr. DIXON. The proposition now before copies taken, one cent for every tive pages exceeding with the official family or the official relations

the Senate, as I understand it, is to strike out fiicen hundred, including the indexes and the laws of the President in any essential way. The of the United States, $9,500.

the following appropriation: amendment leaves the clerical force of the The amendment was agreed to. President precisely where it was in 1865. In

For compensation to the Private Secretary, ageist

ant secretary, short-hand writer, clerk of pardous, The next amendment was in line one hun

1866 the committee supposed there were some three clerks of fourth class, steward, and messenger dred and seventy-five, to reduce the appropri- reasons for increasing the force of the Presi- of the President of the United States, $16,800. ation “ for folding documents, including ma- dent, which reasons were of a peculiar char- And in lieu of those words to insert: terials," for the House of Representatives from acter, and which will be sufficiently indicated For compensation to the Private Secretary, one $50,000 to $42,000. by reading the increased force wbich was

clerk of class four, stowaru, and messenger of the The amendment was agreed to. then put at the disposal of the President. The

President of the United States. $5,200: Provided,

That so much of the fourth section of the act of July The next amendment was in line one hun- increase was as follows: he was authorized to

23, 1866, making appropriation for legislative, esecu dred and eighty-toree, to reduce the appro- appoint an assistant secretary, a short-hand tive, ind judicial expenses of the Gorernment for priation ** for laborers" for the House of

the year ending June 30, 1867, as authorizes the Preswriter, a clerk of pardons, and two clerks of

ident of the Uniter States to appoint an assistant the fourth class. Now, it is known to Con. Representatives from $12,000 to $5,000.

secretary, a short-hand writer, a clerk of pardops, The amendment was agreed to.

gress that about that time, in 1866, the exec- and iwo clerks of the fourth class, is hereby repealed. The next amendment was to reduce the

utive department of the Government was I am not myself entirely informed as to the

thronged with applications for pardons, and it appropriation for "miscellaneous items" for

clerical force employed by the President. I the House contingent fund from $70,000 to

was thought proper to authorize the appoint- know very well whenever I have happened to

ment of a clerk of pardons. The Committee $50,000.

be at the Executive Mansion they all seemed on Appropriations supposed that that time to be very busily employed; a great deal of The amendment was agreed to. The next amendment was to strike out line | sity for a clerk with a special designation-on posed that there was any necessity of reducing

bad gone by; that there was no further neces- work was to be performed; and I had not supone hundred and eighty-five, in the appropria pardons. I submit to my friend from Ohio the force or that it could be done with any pro tions for the House contingent fund, in these

whether he believes, under the present circuiwords:

priety. I suppose that when that portion of stances, that that officer is any longer needed ? ihe act was passed which it is now proposed For newspapers, $12,500.

Then, as to the functions of an assistant sec- to repeal it was thought by Congress that the And in lieu thereof to insert:

retary, the President already bas two secre- force authorized was actually necessary at the For stationery and newspapers for two hundred

taries. There are two secretaries provided for Executive Mansion. I believed it to be so and fifty Members and Delegates, to the amount of

in this bill; and nobody, I suppose, knows then, and I believe it to be so now. I must $125 each, $31,250.

better than any honorable friend from Ohio The amendment was agreed to.

confess it strikes me very unfavorably to chauge that in addition to that, he has his chief PriThe nextamendment was in lineone hundred vate Secretary, detailed from the Army; so

to so very great an extent as is proposed the and ninety-one, to reduce the appropriation that, as matter of fact, he has three: two pro

assistants now furnished by the Government to "for twenty-five pages and three temporary

the President for performing his duties. It vided by law, and one provided by detail; and mail-boys’i" for the House of Representatives but for this amendment to the bill he would

seems to me that it ibe honorable Senator who

has charge of this bill bad wished to enforce from $16,000 to $6,720.

have four. Now, will my friend say that he The amendment was agreed to. believes the official family of the President is

economy he might have commenced a little The next amendment was in line one hundred being interfered with by this bill, when, as it

nearer home. and ninety-five, to reduce the appropriation stands, the President will have three secre

Now, sir, whether the clerical force allowed for stationery for the House of Representatives taries? As it came from the House he had

to the President is proper or not, as I have said,

I am not prepared to say; but I wish to cali to from $30,000 to $15,000.

the attention of the Senate and of the country, The amendment was agreed to. may have, because the power of detail for sec

when we are making this great reduction in a The next amendment was in the appropria- retaries and clerks is unlimited.

manner which seems somewhat invidious to the in line two hundred and thirty-seven the word | President has the power to detail whomso- l employment,” We have a certain number of

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