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court of the District of Columbia, or anyjudge thereof, Committee on Finance, and ordered to be here. Besides, the gentleman from Massachu. shall bave jurisdiction to enforce, by mondamus or otherwise, the right of any person holding the certifi. printed.
setts (Mr. Hoopen] is not present. As this is cate mentioned in the first section of this act; and Mr. SHERMAN asked, and by unanimous a privileged matter the gentleman from Pennthe action of said court in relation thereto shall be consent obtained, leave to introduce a bill (S. sylvania (Mr. Randallj can call is ip ut any final.
No. 544) to provide for a board of commis- time. I move to strike from this last clause all
sioners for the District of Columbia; which Mr. RANDALL. I am advised by the after the word “act.''
was read twice by its title, referred to the Speaker that this is the only time in the day Mr. HARLAN. I see no objection to the Committee on the District of Columbia, and when I can call the matter up. Senator's amendment. ordered to be printed.
Mr. HOOPER, of Massachusetts, liere enMr. HENDRICKS. Very well.
Mr. ANTHONY submitted an amendment | tered the Hall and said: I withdraw the moThe amendment was agreed to.
intended to be proposed to the bill (H. R. No. tion to reconsider. Mr. HENDRICKS. One more amendment 605) making appropriations for the legislative, Mr. RANDALL. I renew the motion to and I shall not trouble the Senate. I move to executive, and judicial expenses of the Gov. reconsider, and also move to lay that motion strike out the second section.
ernment for the year ending the 30th of June, on the table. The section was read as follows:
1869 ; which was referred to the Committee on The SPEAKER. That is not necessary; SEC. 2. And be it further enacted, That any person Appropriations.
and besides the time for making the motion to who shall hinder or obstruct a person holding the
HOUSE BILLS REFERRED.
reconsider has passed. certificate of election inentioned in the foregoing section from entering upon or discharging the duties The joint resolution (H. R. No. 29-4) donat
SARAIL MACKLEMAN, of such otlice, shall be deemed guilty of a misde
ing to the Washington City Orphan Asylum Mr. HOLMAN. There was a tacit under. meanor, and upon conviction thereof in any court of competent jurisdiction shall be fined in avy sum
the iron railing taken from the old Hall of the standing on yesterday that I should have per: pot exceeding $1,000, or be imprisoned in the county House of Representatives was read twice by mission to introduce the bill which I now send jail not exceeding six months, or both said punish
its title, and referred to the Committee on to the Clerk's desk to be read. I hope there menis, in the discretion of the court.
Public Buildings and Grounds. Mr. HENDRICKS. This is an extraordi.
will be no objection to it.
The bill (II. R. No. 1215) for the relief of The bill was one granting a pension to Sarah nary provision, I think, to make it a crime to
Champe Carter, jr., was read twice by its title, Hackleman, widow of Brigadier General Pleasobstruct in any way the entering upon an office
and referred to the Committee on Claims. ant A. Hackleman. by anybody. I do not know of any such pro
The joint resolution (H. R. No. 295) to The bill was read at length. The first secvision in any of the States, and I think we are
authorize the Secretary of the Treasury to remit tion directs the Secretary of the Interior to getting quite enough of criminal laws on the
the duties on certain articles contributed to statutes of the United States without a provis
place on the pension roll the name of Sarah the National Association of American Sharp: || Hackleman, widow of Brigadier General Pleasion of this sort. I think there are two vices
shooters was read twice by its title, and referred ant A. Hackleman, for a pension at the rate of now prevalent, one making a crime out ofevery. to the Committee on Finance.
titty dollars a month, from the 3d day of Octothing until “crime" ceases to be offensive al
ber, 1862, on which day General Hacklemanfell most, and the other is requiring everything to be sworn to, so that the sanctity of an oath is On motion of Mr. POMEROY, the Senate mortally wounded at the battle of Corinth.
The second section discontinues the pension absolutely lost. proceeded to the consideration of executive
heretofore allowed to Sarah Hackleman under The amendment was rejected. business; and after some time spent in execu
the general law. Mr. VICKERS. I offer an amendment to tive session the doors were reopened, and the
The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the add to the fourth section the following proviso: Senate adjourned.
introduction of this bill for consideration at Provided, That this act shall not extend to the contested elections now pending in the said city, but
the present time?
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. that the said elections shall be decided by the tribu
Mr. HOLYAN. I desire the attention of mal which shall have jurisdiction of the same.
SATURDAY, June 13, 1868.
the House for a moment while I explain this The amendment was rejected.
The House met at eleven o'clock a. bill. I hold in my bandThe bill was ordered to be engrossed for | Prayer by the Chaplain, Rev. C. B. Boyntox. Mr. HARDING. Has tbat bill been reported a third reading; was read the third time, and On motion of Mr. HOLMAN, by unanimous from any committee? passed.
consent, the reading of the Journal of yester- The SPEAKER. It has not. The gentle. MESSAGE FROM THE HOUSE. day was dispensed with.
man from Indiana (Mr. HOLMAN) asks unani
mous consent for its introduction and conA message from the House of Represent
sideration at this time. atives, by Mr. McPHERSON, its Clerk, announced
Mr. RANDALL. I rise to a question of Mr. HARDING. I think the bill should be that the House had passed a bill (H. R. No. privilege. On the 25th of May I offered a
referred to a committee. 1255) for the relief of Champe Carter, jr.; } resolution, which was adopted, calling upon the Mr. HOLMAN. I hope the gentleman will and a joint resolution (H. R. No. 295) to
Comptroller of the Currency for certain informauthorize the Secretary of the Treasury to
not insist upon that. It was understood yes. ation. On the next day the gentleman from remit the duties on certain articles contributed
terday that I should have leave to introduce Massachusetts, [Mr. Hooper, whom I do not
this bill. to the National Association of American Sharp
now see in his seat, entered a motion to reconshooters; in which it requested the concurrence
Mr. HARDING. It is a very unusual pro-
adopted. Since that time he has taken no
Mr. HOLMAN. If the gentleman will listen
to me for a momentThe message also announced that the Speaker I now call it up and move that it be laid upon of the House had signed the following enrolled the table.
The SPEAKER. If the gentleman from bills and joint resolutions; and they were Mr. CULLOM. Is that privileged ?
Illinois [Mr. Harding) persists in his objec
tion, the bill is not now before the House. thereupon signed by the President pro tempore: The SPEAKER. It is, and can be called A bill (S. No. 322) granting a pension to up at any time when there is no business before
Mr. HARDING. I insist upon my objec. Sherman H. Cowles; the House.
tion. I am willing that the bill shall be intro A bill (S. No. 323) granting a pension to Mr. CULLOM. There is evidently no quo.
duced and referred to the Committee on Invalid Michael Kelley;
Pensions. rum here. A bill (S. No. 344) granting a pension to Mr. WASHBURNE, of Ilinois. I hope
Mr. HOLMAN. It is too late in the session Caroline and Margaret Swartwout; the gentleman from Pennsylvania will wait
to expect to get any more reports from that A bill (S. No. 420) granting a pension to until the gentleman from Massacbusetts (Mr.
committee, as the gentleman from Illinois well James A. Guthrie; HOOPER) is in his seat.
understands. A bill (S. No. 421) granting a pension to Mr. RANDALL. I have waited two weeks
Mr. HARDING. I hope not, for there are Caroline E. Thomas; already and the gentleman from Massachusetts
several bills before that committee in which my A bill (S. No. 424) granting a pension to has taken no action on the subject, and this is
constituents are interested. Bartlett and Carrie Edwards, children of the only time in the day when I can make my
Mr. HOLMAN. I will consent to have the David W. Edwards, deceased; and motion. I ask that the resolution may be read
bill referred, if permission can be given to the A jgint resolution (H. R, No. 137) request- for the information of the House.
committee to report upon it at any time. ing the President to intercede with her Majesty, The Clerk read the resolution, as follows:
Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I hope the Queen of Great Britain, to secure the speedy Resolver, That the Comptroller of the Currency be
that permission will be given, and also to report release of Rev. John McMabon, convicted of requested to furnisb to this House a statement of the
at any time in the case of Mrs. Becler, the treason-felony, and now confined at Kingston,
amount of dividends declared by the national bank- widow of Major Beeler, a paymaster, who died
ing associations since their organization under the Canada West.
while in the service of the Government.
Mr. HARDING. I object to any special
who are now receiving pensions and desire an (S. No. 543) to provide for a further issue of
information be not in his possession, he is further increase of pension, while there are dozens of
directed to take prompt measures to procure and temporary loan certificates for the purpose of
widows of private soldiers who need pensions transmit the same to this blouse.
and have not received them. redeeming and retiring the remainder of the Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. This is Mr. HOLMAN. outstanding compound interest notes; which
Very well; then I will try
and get this bill before the House on Monday
what he says.
ORDER OF BUSINESS.
the agents of the bureau to take the test oath. Mr. ELIOT. There is not another case in Mr. DAWES. I rise to a question of
It turned out that Mr. Carter had been engaged the bureau. This is a solitary exceptional privilege.
in the service of the confederacy. Upon the Mr.SCHENCK. I call for the regular order, passage of that law General Kiddoo, who was Mr. TRIMBLE, of Kentucky, What reason The SPEAKER. A question of privilege is in command of that division, wrote a letter to other than that he belonged to the Freedmen's the regular order.
Mr. Carter, saying that he was very sorry to Bureau is there for exempting him than any Mr. DAWES. I desire to call up for action be compelled to dispense with his services, other man who was in the confederate service. the amendments of the Senate to the House but that the law required he should be relieved I hope this will be referred to some committee, joint resolution to relieve from political dis- because he could not take the oath. Carter so we may have uniform general legislation, abilities R. R. Butler, of Tennessee.
had before stated to the general what his ser- and not this class legislation. Mr. MYERS. Will the gentleman from vices had been, and although he was a regis- Mr. HARDING. Was be at the time he Massachusetts (Mr. Dawes] yield to me for a tered voter and a very loyal and true man yet was appointed qualified under our laws to per. moment?
he was unable to take the oath, and had to be form this service? The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Ohio relieved. The accounts for his pay were sent Mr. ELIOT. He was appointed before the [Mr. ScuescK] has called for the regular order. | in, and the Commissioner, upon examination, law was passed in July, 1866, and was in office Mr. MYERS. I liope the gentleman will
stated that he would be very glad to allow the at the time. withdraw that call for a moment.
vouchers to be paid but for the provision of Mr. HARDING. Why, then, cannot the Mr. DAWES. In view of the condition of the act which made it necessary that Congress Department pay him? the House this morning I will not call it up at
should authorize the payment.
The evidence Ir. ELIOT. Because of the provision of this time if the gentleman from Ohio will per- before the committee is very full, showing not that law which disabled him. He was imme. mit me to call it up immediately after the morn- only that Mr. Carter is a very worthy man in diately relieved, and he now asks to be paid for ing hour this morning.
private life, but that he earnestly and faithfully the time he was in service before the law passed Mr. SCHENCK. It will occasion debate performed the duties of his office;
and no rea
making it unlawful for him to be appointed. or a division of the House, and take up time. son exists against giving him pay. He has Mr. MULLINS demanded the yeas and nays.
Mr. DAWES. Then, if the gentleman in- had no compensation for any of his work on The yeas and nays were ordered. sists upon it, I shall have to call it up now. account of the provision of law to which I have The question was put on the passage of the
Mr. SCHENCK. The gentleman can do as referred. The bill makes no appropriation, bill; and there were-yeas 49, nays 19, not be pleases, but I do not think he should do but simply authorizes the Commissioner to voting 120; as follows:
apply moneys now in his hands to the payment YEAS--Messrs. Archer, Baker, Barnes, Beatty, Mr. DA WES. There is no objection, so far as of this man.
Beck, Bromwell, Chanler, Churchill, Sidney Clarke, Iknow, to the amendment of the Senate, but it Mr. WARD. I desire to inquire what were
Cornell, Dawes, Dixon, Fla, Eliot, Ferriss, Getz,
Glossbrenner, Ilarding, Higby, Holman, Hopkins, is necessary to have action of the House upon it. the services rendered by this man to the con- Chester D. Hubbard, Julian, Laflin, Loughridge, Mr. MYERS. I rise to a point of order. federacy which incapacitated him to take the Mercur, Moore, Morrell, Myers, Nihlack, Paine, The SPEAKER. The gentleman will state oath?
Peters, Pile, Plants, Pomeroy, Price, Randall, Rob
ertson, Sawyer, Shanks, Starkweather, Thaddeus his point of order.
Mr. ELIOT. He was for a short time a non- Stevens, Stokes, Tbomas, John Trimble, Trowbridge, Nr. MYERS. My point of order is that it commissioned officer in the service of the con- Upson, Robert T. Van Hlorn, and Henry D. Wash
burn-49. is not in order for gentlemen to converse with federacy,
NAYS-Messrs. Beaman, Burr, Cobb, Cullom, Goleach other across the Hall.
Mr. WARD. Does the gentleman think we laday. Grover, Hawkins, Judd, Ketcham, Knott, The SPEAKER, The Chair thinks it may should be employing that class of persons as
Mullins, Scofield. Shellabarger, Aaron F. Stevens,
Taber, Lawrence S. Trimble, Van Trump, Ward, and be, for the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. agents of the Freedmen's Bureau ?
Elihu B. Washburne--19. Myers) was conversing with the gentleman Mr. ELIOT. Well, sir, other things being NOT VOTING-Messrs. Adams, Allison, Ames, from Ohio [Mr. SchencK] across the aisle a equal, I should say that we should not. But Anderson, Arnell, Delos R. Ashley, James M. Ashley, few minutes since.
Axtell, Bailey, Baldwin, Banks, Bardum. Benjathis is a good man, and I hope there will be
min, Bonton, Bingham, Blaine, Blair, Boutwell, Mr. MYERS. I, however, addressed the no objection to the passage of the bill.
Boyer, Brooks Broomall, Buckland, Butler, Cake, Chair. Mr. BURR. Will the gentleman permit me
Cary, 'Reader W. Clarke, Coburn, Cook, Covodo, Mr. DAWES. If the gentleman from Ohio to make an inquiry?
Delano, Dodge, Donnelly, Driggs, Eckley, Eggleston,
Eláridge, Farnsworth, Ferry, Fields, Pinney, Fox, (Mr. Scienck] will not object to my calling Mr. ELIOT. Yes, sir.
Garfield, Gravely, Griswold, Haight, Halsey, Hill, this matter up on Monday next, I will not call
Mr. BURR. I wish, in the first place, to ask Hooper, Hotchkiss, Asahei W. Hubbard, Richard D. it till then.
Hubbard, Hulburd, Humphrey, Hunter, Ingersoll, up whether it is necessary to have an act of Con
Jenckes, Johnson, Jones, Kelley, Kelsey, Kerr, Sir. SCHENCK. Very well, let it come up | gress to provide for payment in special cases Kitchen Koontz, George V. Lawrence, William Lavon Monday.
rence, Lincoln, Loan, Logan, Lynch, Mallory, Marof this kind ; and secondly, what evidence is
shall, Marvin, Maynard, McCarthy, McClurg, McMr. DAWES. I hope the gentleman will there that this applicant, notwithstanding the Cormick, McCullough, Miller, Moorhead, Morrismake no objection.
fact tbat he held a position in the rebel army sey, Mungen, Newcomb. Nicholson, Nunn, O'Neill, Mr. SCHENCK. I cannot help myself, for and fought against the Governmeni, bas been Orth, Perbam, Phelps, Pike, Poland, Polsley, Pruyn,
Raum, Robinson, Ross, Schenck, Selye, Sitgreaves, it is a question of privilege. since that time what the gentleman calls “a
Smith, Spalding, Stewart, Stone, Taffe, Taylor,
Twichell, Van Aerpam. Van Auken, Burt Van Horn,
Washburn, Welker, Thomas Williams, William Wilnow commenced, and the first business in order from General Kiddoo, and also the affidavits
liams, James F. Wilson, John T. Wilson, Stephen F. is the reporting of bills of a private nature, of two or three officials in the part of Texas Wilson, Windom, Wood, Woodbridge, and Wood
ward-120. commencing with the Committee on Roads
where this man resided, certifying upon oath
to his character and the general worthiness of The SPEAKER. There is no quorum votNo reports from the Committee on Roads his conduct.
ing and Canals were presented.
Mr. BURR. The gentleman recognizes the Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. Then I
fact, then, I suppose, that a man may have move that there be a call of the House. CHAMPE CARTER, JR.
been for the time being engaged in the rebel- The motion was agreed to. Mr. ELIOT, from the Committee on Freed- lion and yet be a good man.
I wish to ask
The Clerk accordingly proceeded to call the men's Affairs, reported a bill (H. R. No. 1255) hini whether he does recognize that or not? roll, and the following members failed to answer for the relief of Champe Carter, jr. ; which Mr. ELIOT.
to their names: was read a first and second time.
“ While the lamp holds out to burn
Messrs. Adams, Ames, Anderson, Arnell, Delos R, The bill authorizes and directs the Commis
The vilest sinner may return."
Ashley, James M. Ashley, Axtell, Bailey, Baldwin. sioner of Refugees, Freedmen, and Abandoned [Laughter.]
Banks, Barnum, Beaman, Benton, Bingbam, Blair,
Boutwell, Brooks, Broomall, Butler, Cary, Reader Lands to pay to Champe Carter, jr., late sub- Mr. VAN TRUMP. Was this gentleman a
W. Clarke, Coburn, Cook, Covode, Dodge, Donnelly, assistant commissioner of the bureau for the conscript or a volunteer in the confederate Driggs, Eckley, Eggleston, Eldridge, Farnsworth, counties of Robertson and Milan, in the State service?
Ferry, Finney, Fox, Garfield, Laight, Halsey, Asa
hel W. Hubbard, Richard D. Hubbard, Hulburd, of Texas, out of moneys heretofore appropriMr. ELIOT. I cannot say from my own
Humphrey, Hunter, Ingersoll, Jenckes, Jobpson, ated for the use of the bureau, the sum of knowledge, but I infer from the letter in which
Jones, Kelley, Kerr, Kitchen, George V. Lawrence, $526 50, being the amount due to him for General Kiddoo refers to the conversation be William Lawrence, Lincoln, Loan, Mallory, Mar
shall, Marvin, McCarthy, McClurg, McCormick, services as sub-assistant commissioner from had with Mr. Carter that he was so in the ser
McCullough, Miller, Moorehead, Mungen, Newcomb, March 17, 1866, to August 29, 1866.
vice as to be within the purview of the law. Nicholson, Nuon, Orth, Perham, Phelps, Pikc, PoMr. WARD. I would like to hear
Mr. MULLINS. He ought never to have land, Polsley, Pruyn, Robinson, Ross, Selye, Sitexplanation of this bill.
greaves, Smith, Spalding, Stone, Taffe, Taylor, Van been there; and, sir, I will never vote for a
Auken. Burt Van Horn, Van Wyck, Cadwalader C. Mr. ELIOT. Mr. Speaker, Champe Carter, man who was in the rebel service.
Washburn, William W. Washburn, Welker, Thomas jr., the person for whose relief this bill is
Williams, James F. Wilson, Stephen T. Wilson, Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. This man
Windom, Wood, Woodbridge, and Woodward. proposed, was appointed March 17, 1866, as
rendered the service for which he asks to be paid. a sub assistant commissioner in an interior Mr. PILE. Was he in the rebel army or in Mr. WARD. Mr. Speaker, I presume many part of the State of Texas. According to the
of the absentees were not aware of the fact the confederate civil service ? evidence before the committee he rendered
Mr. TRIMBLE, of Kentucky. I desire to that the session to-day commenced at eleven very faithful service from March 17, 1866, till
o'clock. August 29 of the same year. In July, 1866, know from the gentleman from Massachusetts
The SPEAKER. That may be ; it was only whether or not it would not be better to make the bill continuing the bureau was passed, and
the bill general in its character, and let it apply ordered last night at ten o'clock.' A quorum one of the provisions of that bill required all
is now present. to all persons similarly situated ?
Mr. WARD. I move that the further call || making power of the Government, I shall feel on Military Affairs a bill for the relief of Seth of the House be dispensed with. compelled to object.
Lea. The motion was agreed to.
Mr. CLARKE, of Kansas. The IIouse has Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. Let it be The SPEAKER. The yeas and pays will already ordered an investigation into all the read. be again called on the passage of the bill. facts connected with the making of this treaty The bill was read. It directs the Secretary
The question was again taken; and it was by a commission appointed by the President of the Interior to place the name of Seth Lea, decided in the affirmative-yeas 70, nays 27, of the Cnited States. The purpose is not to of kinox county, Tennessee, on the roll of not voting 92; as follows:
interfere in any way with the treaty-making invalid pensions at the rate of the full pension YEAS-Messrs. Allison, Archer, Delos R. Ashley, power.
now allowed by law to a second lieutenant, Baker, Barnes, Bcaman, Beatty, Beck, Blaine, Boyer, Nir. MAYNARD. Very well, I withdraw the said pension to commence on the 5th day of Bromwell, Buckland, Cake, Chanler, Churchill, Sidney Clarke, Cornell, Dawes, Dixon, Eckley, Ela, Eliot, VIE. WASHBURNE, of Illinois.
April, 1865, and to continue for his natural life. Ferriss, Fields, Getz, Glossbrenner. Harding, ligby,
I suggest Mr. BURR. I would ask how and why this Holman, Hopkins, Hotehkiss, Chester D. Hubbard, to the gentleman from Kansas that he mod- bill comes from the Committee on Military Judd, Julian, Kictcham, Laflin, Loughridge. Lynch,
Affairs? Mercur, Moore, Morrell, Myers, Newcomb, Niblack,
ify his resolution by striking out the word O'Neill, Paine, Peters, Pile, Plants, Pomeroy, Price,
"directed '' and inserting requested." That Mr. HAWKINS. I will explain the bill. Randall, Robertson, Sawyer. Starkweather, Aaron F. is the usual mode of addressing the President. This man was employed to recruit for the FedStevens, Thnddeus Stevens, Stewart, Stokes, Thomas, John Trimble, Trowbridge, Twichell, Upson, Van
Mr. CLARKE, of Kansas. I will modily eral Army with the promise that he should be Aernam, Robert T. Van IIorn, Ward, llenry D. the resolution in that way.
commissioned as a lieutenant. After carrying Washburn, William Williams, and John T. Wil- Mr. STEVENS, of Pennsylvania. I hope several hundred men across the mountains,
NAYS - Messrs. Benjamin, Burr, Cobb, Covode, \ something of this kind will be done. I know and while crossing the mountains with others, Culloin, Delano, Golladay, Gravely, Griswold, Gro- that there are two or three men in Texas-- he and the men who were with him were capver, IIawkins, lIooper, Kelsey, Knott, Koontz, Lo- railroad men, who are monopolizing the public tured by the rebels. He was imprisoned in ran, Maynard, Morrissey, Mullins, Schenck, Scofield, Shellabarger, Taber, Lawrence S. Trimble, Van
lands there for their railroads, and obsiructing Castle Thunder from 1863 to the close of the Trump. Elihu B. Washburne, and Welker--27. all improvemenis in the State. I hope there war, and was disabled by being frost-bitten
NOT VOTING-Messrs. Adains, Ames, Anderson, Arnell, James M. Ashley, Axtell, Bailey, Baldwin,
will be a thorough investigation of the whole while in prison. This bill is reported unani. Banks, Barnum, Benton, Bingham, Blair. Boutwell, matter.
mously by the Committee on Military Affairs. Brooks, Broomall, Butler, Cary, Reader W. Clarke, The resolution was adopted.
Mr. WASHBURNE, of Minois. It is a Coburn, Cook, Dodge, Donnelly, Driggs, Eggleston, Mr. CLARKE, of Kansas, moved to recon. Eldridge, Farnsworth, Ferry, Finney, Fox, Garfield,
pension bill. It may be a meritorious case, llaight, llalsey, Hill, Asnhei w. llubbard, Richard
sider the vote by which the resolution was but it seems to me that it ought not to come D. Hubbard, Ilulburd, Humphrey, Hunter. Inger- adopted; and also moved that the motion to from the Committee on Military Affairs. soll, Jenckes, Johnson, Jones, Kelley, Kerr, Kitchen, reconsider be laid on the table.
Mr. MAYNARD. I hope no objection will Gcorge V. Lawrence, William Lawrence, Lincoln, Loan, Mallory, Marshall, Marvin, McCarthy. Me
The latter motiou was agreed to.
be interposed to this bill. The application Curg, MeCormick, McCullough, Miller, Moorhead, Mr. MYERS. I desire, before yielding Mungon, Nicholson, Nunn, Orth, Perham, Phelps,
was for pay while thus imprisoned in Castle Pike, Poland, Polsley, Pruyn. Raum, Robinson, Ross, further, to inquire how much of the morning
Thunder, having been captured in the manner Sclye, Shanks. Sitgreaves, Smith, Spalding, Stone, hour there is remaining ?
my colleague [Mr. Hawkins] has described. T:ufe, Taylor, Van Auken, Burt Van Horn. Van The SPEAKER. The morning hour will
The Committee on Military Affairs, however, Wyck, Cadwalader C. Washburn, William B. Washburn, Thomas Williams, James F, Wilson, Stephen expire at eighteen minutes past twelve.
thought the relief proper in the case would F. Wilson, Windom, Wood, Woodbridge, and Wood- Mr. MYERS. I yield for a moment to the
be a pension, and they have reported a bill ward-92.
gentleman from Maine, (Mr. Lrsch.) accordingly. The man is now between sixty So the bill was passed.
and seventy years of age, and is almost dead
UNITED STATES COURTS Mr. ELIOT moved to reconsider the vote by
from the effects of his imprisonment. He is
Mr. LYNCHI, by nanimous consent, introwhich the bill was passed; and also moved
also in very necessitous circumstances in conduced a bill (H. R. No. 1256) to amend an act that the motion to reconsider be laid on the
sequence of the war, although when the war table.
entitled “ An act to provide for holding the commenced he was in comfortable circum.
courts of the United States in case of the The latter motion was agreed lo.
stances. sickness or other disability of the judges of the Mr. BURR. If the Committee on Military ENROLLED JOINT RESOLUTION.
district court,'' approved July 29, 1850; which Affairs see fit to report a pension billMr. HOLMAN, from the Committee on
was read a first and second time, and referred Mr. MYERS. I rise to a question of order. , reported that the committee to the Committee on the
If the Patent Committee is not reached before
the morning hour expires, will the portion of resolution (H. R. No. 137) requesting the Pres.
vote by which the bill was referred; and also the hour this morning count against the comident to intercede with her Majesty, the Queen | moved that the motion to reconsider be laid | mittee ? of Great Britain, to secure the speedy release on the table.
The SPEAKER. It will. of Rev.John McMahon, convicted on a charge The latter motion yas agreed to.
Mr. MYERS. I must then resume the floor. of treason-felony, and now confined at King: Mr. MYERS. I yield now for a moment to Mr. BURR. I only intended to place the ston, Canada West; when the Speaker signed | the gentleman from Nlinois, [Mr. Logan.) Committee on Pensions right in this matter. the same.
REMOVAL OF THE SEAT OF GOVERNMENT.
The SPEAKER. The Chair understands Mr. MYERS obtained the floor to make a report from the Committee on Patents under
Mr. LOGAN. I do not desire to take up
the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. Myers] the call of the committees, but yielded to Mr. the time of the House, but I desire to give
to object to the consumption of time.
Mr. MYERS. I am willing to yield if the CLARKE, of Kansas.
notice that on Monday next I shall move to morning hour of to-day is not counted against
suspend the rules to offer a resolution author. GREAT AND LITTLE OSAGE INDIANS.
us, provided the Patent Committee is not called izing the appointment of a committee of this
before the expiration of that morning hour. Mr. CLARKE, of Kansas. I ask ananimous | House to select a site for the capital of the consent to submit the following preamble and United States, on account of the disregard of the committee. Any fraction of the hour will
The SPEAKER. It will count agaiust the resolution for consideration at the present law and the disloyal element that is constantly count as an hour. time:
showing itself in such bitterness in this city Mr. MYERS. As we yielded our right to Whereas it is reported that a treaty has recently toward the local people of this country and been concluded with the Great and Little Osage In- || in disregard of the authority of the United morning hour of yesterday, and as the mornia
the Committee on Invalid Pensions to the States. Jion acres of land, located in the State of Kansas, to a railroad corporation; and whereas it is reported Mr. MYERS. I yield for a moment to the
ing hour of to-day is about to expire, I ask that by the provisions of said treaty the people of gentleman from Indiana, [Mr. Julian.]
unanimous consent that the remainder of this the United States are excluded froin the rights of
morning hour be not counted against the Comhomestead and preëmption settlement; and whereas
LANDS IN SOUTIERN STATES.
mittee on Patents, but that our time shall be it is also reported that improperinfluences bave been used to accomplish the framing and signing of said
Mr. JULIAN, by unanimous consent, intro
regarded as beginning on next private bill treaty, and that the interests of the Indians and duced a bill (H. R. No. 1257) relative to lands day. of the people have been grossly and fraudulently sold for non-payment of Federal taxes or under neglected; and whereas an investigation has been
Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I object. ordered by this House, into all the facts connected
a judgment or decree of the courts of the Mr. MYERS. Then I must resume the floor with said treaty: Therefore,
United States in the States lately in rebellion; Resolved. That the President is hereby directed to which was read a first and second time, and
The gentleman from fornisb to this House copies of all instructions, records, and correspondence connected with the com
referred to the Committee on the Public Lands. Pennsylvania (Mr. Myers] having resumed the mission authorized to make the above-named treaty,
Mr. HOLMAN moved to reconsider the vote floor, the bill of the gentleman from Tennessee and copies of all propositions made to said commis: || by which the bill was referred; and also moved | [Mr. Hawkins) is not before the House. and tbe President is requested to withbold said treaty
that the motion to reconsider be laid on the from the Senate until a full investigation can be had | table.
WOOD-SCREW PATENTS. and report made by the Committee on Indian Affairs The latter motion was agreed to.
Mr. MYERS, from the Committee on Patof this House. Mr. MAYNARD. I will not object to this Mr. MYERS. I yield now for a moment to
ents, reported back, with a recommendation
that the same do pass, House bill No. 810, for if the object of introducing it is to inquire into the gentleman from Tennessee, (Mr. Hawkins.)
the relief of the widow and heirs of Thomas the conduct of our own officials and investigate
W. Harvey, deceased. that with a view to dealing with them. But Mr. HAWKINS. I ask unanimous consent The question was upon ordering the bill to if the object is to interfere with the treaty. of the House to report from the Committee be engrossed and read a third time.
had examined and routed truly enrolled a joint ONE. KANDALL,"movedu do reconsider the
Mr. MYERS. For the purpose of saving Mr. DAWES. Is this proposition, which I stated last evening this was a great conventime, I now call the previous question. been been twice defeated, to be put through
ience to the Government and furnished faciliMr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. Has not without the report being read?
ties for the payment of Government claims and this bill been already acted upon and disposed Mr. MYERS. I will withdraw the call for | for the safety of collections in various of the of by this House?
the previous question, and I trust my colleague internal revenue collection districts, while at Mr. HOLMAN. Let the bill be read. [Mr. STEVENS, of Pennsylvania] will withdraw the same time there was a check at all times in 'The SPEAKER. The Clerk will report the the motion to lay on the table. I have yielded favor of the Government by the operations of bill to the House, after which the question will all the time the committee had to-day, and I the clearing-houses to which, especially in be upou seconding the call for the previous think we have been treated rather unkindly. cities, the banks go. I was certain and I knew question.
Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. What is I was right when I stated to the committee, The bill was read at length. It authorizes | the pending question?
although we have a law restrictive in its char: the Committee on Patents to bear the applica: The SPEAKER. The motion of the gen. acter, as to making deposits of national funds tion of the widow and heirs of Thomas W. tleman from Pennsylvania, (Mr. STEVENS,] to in the banks, yet it is inevitable that deposits Harvey, deceased, for a reëxtension of the lay the bill on the table, is still pending. have to be made in banking institutions in difpatent heretofore granted to the said Harvey, Mr. MYERS. I hope my colleague, consid- ferent collection districts, the taxes to a large on the 30th of May, 1846, for an improvement lering the circumstances, will withdraw that amount being paid in checkslate in the business in machinery for cutting screws, and reissued motion.
day when the sub-Treasury offices are closed, on the 28th of December, 1858; and also the Mr. STEVENS, of Pennsylvania. No, sir; and the Government thus has the benefit of application of the heirs of Thomas W. Harvey I cannot withdraw it. This is the same old the watchfulness of the clearing-houses. Now, for the reëxtension of the patent heretofore wood-screw patent coming before us in its sir, while I stand here to-day a bank man, 1100 granted to said Harvey, on the 18th of August, \| ghostly form for, I believe, the ninth time. as I was educated in the Whig party twenty1846, for improvement in machinery for dress- On the motion of Mr. STEVENS, of Pennsyl- five years ago, and yet not by any means an ing screw-heads, and reissued on the 4th of | vania, that the bill be laid on the table, there anti-bank man as some of those around me January, 1859, and to grant the extension of were-ayes 47, noes 50.
were educated to be in the Locofoco party at said patents for the period of seven years re- Mr. FARNSWORTH. I call for tellers. the same period, still I am not for putting too spectively, from the 30th of May, 1867, and the The SPEAKER. The morning hour has severe restrictions upon the national banks. I 18th of August, 1867, when said patents by expired; and this bill goes over till the morn. am in favor of the law as it stands and in favor law expired; provided that the patents shall ing hour of Friday next.
of the existing tax on circulation and deposits, be extended only for the benefit of the widow
but I do not want to see that tax increased. I
CHILDREN OF G. W. FREER. and legal heirs of said Harvey, and that these
know the circulation in some districts of the extensions shall not develop for the use and The SPEAKER. The Chair is requested
country and in some States is inadequate to benefit of any corporation or person claiming by the Committee on Invalid Pensions to state
the business done in them. I know in the city any right or interest in either of the said patthat there was a clerical error in the bill (H.
I have the honor in part to represent it is said ents by virtue of any alleged agreement, R. No. 1252) granting a pension to the minor
by many that we have not a circulation adequate transfer, or assigninent heretofore executed by children of Garrett W. Freer, which was passed
to the business of the city. the said heirs, or any arbitration or award here- yesterday. The bill provided that the pension
Mr. ELA. Has not one of your Philadelphia tofore made between the said heirs and any should commence July 5, 1868. The date ought
banks which had no use for its circulation sold other person or corporation; and if at any
to have been July 5, 1863. If there be no enough to start a country bank for nine per time said extended letters-patent shall be objection the correction will be made in the
cent. premium? come in whole or in part the property of the engrossed bill.
Mr. O'NEILL. I never heard of such a company which owned said patents at the There was no objection.
bank; but that is no point against the time when they were about to expire, or of
INTERNAL TAX BILL.
ment I make. I do not know of a banking their successors, then this act shall at once Mr, SCHENCK. I rise for the purpose of
institution of Philadelphia or of Pennsylvania thereafter become void and of no effect; and moving that the House resolve itself into the
that is to-day urging Congress not to put such provided also that all rights in law or equity of Committee of the Whole on the state of the a tax upon them as they and their customers
persons legally in possession of machines covered by said patents shall be fully proUnion on the tax bill; but before submitting
should justly pay. I hope the tax upon circuthat motion I move that all debate on the pend
lation and deposits will not be increased. tected in all cases from the said extensions of ing section in relation to banks be terminated
I witnessed the attacks made years ago in letters. patent; provided said Commissioner, in ten minutes after the House shall again
Pennsylvania and other States upon the banks after full hearing, upon due notice to all per: resolve itself into the Committee of the Whole. under the guise of protecting the people by legissoas desiring to contest said extensions, shall The motion was agreed to.
lation. These attacks were frequently made for he of opinion that said patents should be so extended. Mr. SCHENCK. I now move that the rules
the purpose of injuring these institutions, so Mr. MYERS. I call the previous question. be suspended, and that the House resolve itself
necessary, when properly managed, to the busiinto the Committee of the Whole on the state
ness prosperity of the country; and my only Mr. STEVENS, of Pennsylvania. I move
interest in them now is to aid in saving them of the Union on the tax bill. to lay this bill on the table. I have helped to kill it three times, and I want to kill it the accordingly resolved itself into the Committee The motion was agreed to; and the House
in their usefulness, and not to urge that they should be exempted from their due share of
taxation. Mr. DAWES. I would like to make an of the whole on the state of the Union, (Mr.
[Here the hammer fell.] inquiry of the gentleman from Pennsylvania, Pomeroy in the chair,) and resumed the con
Mr. LOGAN. I move to strike out sideration of the special order, being the bill
sixth,” and say
one fifth." Mr. MYERS. I withdraw the call for the | (H. R. No, 1060) to reduce into one act and to
Mr. Chairman, I do not propose to enter into Previous question, to hear the gentleman's || amend the laws relating to internal taxes.
a general discussion of the propriety of banks, The pending section was section one hundred
for that has nothing to do with the issue before Sir. DAWES. I desire to inquire whether and thirteen.
the House. The question is whether the Gov. this is the same patent the renewal of which The pending question was on the amendment
ernment of the United States should receive has been refused by the House heretofore? of Mr. Price, to strike out in line fourteen the
interest on its deposits, the same as individuals. Mr. MYERS. It is a new bill. words one sixth," and insert in lieu thereof
In other words, shall the Government of the Mr. DAWES. I trust the gentleman will the words one twelfth ;' so as to make the
United States require collaterals for their de. answer my question. clause read as follows:
posits, and those collaterals are in Government Mr. MYERS. I have not the time now, as And a tax of one twelfth of one per cent, each
securities drawing six per cent. interest in gold, the morning hour is about to expire.
month upon the average amount of çirculation issued
when at the same time we have millions of Mr. DAWES. I want to know whether this
person, including as circulation all certified checks deposits in the banks. We pay the banks six is the same patent (the bill being drawn in a and all notes and other obligations calculated or
per cent. in gold upon the collaterals, and they different shape) the extension of which has
intended to circulate or to be used as money, but not been twice defeated in this House?
including that in the vault of the bank or redeemed pay us not one cent upon the deposits of the and on deposit for said bank.
Government, deposits upon which they make Mr. MYERS. I will answer the gentleman
Mr. O'NEILL. Mr. Chairman, I will detain from six to ten per cent. on loans to individas soon as I have the time. The Committee || the House for a moment only. I rose last even- uals. It does seem to me strange that the bank on Patents has had no time to report, I having ing for the purpose of getting some iuforination can afford to pay private individuals for deposits
from four to six per cent., and yet cannot pay morning hour is about to expire. If the
House in reference to taxing deposits, and also to learn the Government one cent. will second the previous question, I will make
his views as to the propriety of having the Gov- Mr. O'NEILL. I speak from the stand-point a fall explanation and yield to other gentlemen ernment funds deposited in banking institutions of my own locality. I say, and I think my who may desire to discuss the bill. I demand the call for the previous question.
and private banks. I have since understood, colleague from the first district (Mr. RANDALI]
and I thought last evening I was correct, that will concur with me, that this thing of paying Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. Have I
there was no such thing now as deposits of the interest on deposits in banks in Philadelphia not the right to call for the reading of the
is unknown. Government in private banks. As I learn the
facts there are yet national funds in national Mr. LOGAN. Then all I have to say is that The SPEAKER. The gentleman has not
they had better deposit their money in Chicago while the demand for the previous question is cially in banks located where there are no or New York or Louisville or Cincinnati, where
offices of the sub-Treasury of the United States. they do pay interest on deposits. I do not
know what the System of banking may be in rate of interest, as low as four per cent., and authorized to be collected shall be deposited in a Philadelphia, but it seems to be different from even lower in the city of New York, but it
national bank in any city or place where thero the workings of the banking business every- could not be had for sixty or ninety days with
located the Treasurer or an Assistant Treasurer of
the Cnited States. All public moueys collected and where else. I know that six per cent. on de- out a much higher rate, even on the very best reccived in any city or place for the Government posits has been and is being paid where I live, i security. The reason was that currency was
shall be deposited with such 'Treasurer or Assistant and I do not see why, if they are willing to pay
Trensurer, shall be subject only to the draft of the being used in Wall Street in gambling opera- Secretary of the Treasury or tho Treasurer of the six per cent. on my money (if I have any to tions, based on the rise and full of stocks and United States, as provided by law, and under such deposit) they cannot pay the Government three gold. It is loaned on call for that business,
regulations as the Secretary of the Treasury froin
tine to time shall deem expedient and establish; and per cent. for its money, when the banks are when it would not be loaned on long time for any public officer violating this provision of the law drawing interest from the Government from the very best security. For these reasons I and depositiog public money otherwise than is herein the mere fact of its having deposits in these insist that we ought to throw the burden of
directed, and any other person who shall aid therein, banks.
shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor, and on taxation rather on deposits than on circula- conviction thercot shall be fiped a sum not exceedNow, sir, I propose at the proper time to tion. I am not sorry that the Committee of ing $5,000, and be imprisoned for a term not exceedoffer-or the Cominittee of Ways and Means Ways and Means propose to get more revenue
ing three years, or cither, at the discretion of the will offer it--the amendment which I suggested out of circulation, but I shall insist if they do last night, that while the provisions of the bill, they must correspondingly raise the tax on
Mr. SCHENCK. I rise to a point of order. so far as the circulation or banks is concerned, 1 deposits.
The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman will shall stand as they are, three per cent. shall It is generally conceded that deposits serve
state his point of order. be paid as taxation by the bank upon the many if not all ihe purposes of currency. Mr.
Mr. SCHEVCK. The first part of this amount of Government deposits; so that the Walker, in his able work on Public Wealih, amendment, if it were separated from the rest, Government may be receiving some interest recently published, insists that all deposits are
I think would be in order, and I should be in for its deposits as well as individuals; espe- to be added as a clear addition to the total
favor of it. But the last part of the amendinent, cially from those banks to which the Govern. circulation of the country. If this view be proposing to amend the sub-Treasury laws, I ment is paying six per cent. in gold for the correct, the Committee of Ways and Means
Think tends to make the amendment out of mere privilege of having banks to circulate the ought to show the present difference in the
order. Government's own notes, the Government rate of tax or the two should be continued ;
The CHAIRMAN. The Chair sustains the being responsible for the redemption of those rather than to ask us as they do in this billa || point of order. I cannot understand why it is that to make that difference greater
Mr. RANDALL. Very well; I will move when you ask a small rate of interest to be [Here the hammer fell.]
that portion of my amendment to which the paid to the Government upon the deposits of The CHAIRJAN. All debate on this sec
gentleman from Ohio [Mr. SCHENCK] does not The Government in these banks, you at once tion is closed by order of the House.
object. raise a hornet's nest in this House. If you Mr. LOGAN. I withdraw the amendment
Mr. GARFIELD. I would suggest to the undertake to do anything that seems to furnish to the amendment.
gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. RANDALL) money to the Government and take it from Mr. PRICE. Is the question now on my
to modify his amendment by inserting after the the grasping clutches of capitalists, the very annendment?
word " sub-Treasurer'' the words " or other men that can afford to pay taxes, it seems to The CHAIRYAN. It is.
public depositary. arouse the indignation of certain gentlemen Mr. PRICE. And if my amendinent pre
Mr. RANDALL. The national banks are here. Now, so far as I am concerned, my vails it will leave the law just as it is, will it public depositaries. theory is that we should not legislate for the not?
Mr. HOLIAN. Let the amendment as now rich alone, but seek to take the burden off the The CHAIRMAN. It will.
submitted be read. poor man. You ought pot to put so much The question was taken on Mr. Price's The amendinent was again read, being to add upon the poor man that he will be unable to l amendment, and there were--ayes 42, noes to the section the following: bear it. Unless you seek to derive your reve- 41; 10 quorum voting.
Provided further, That none of the money author: mue from the sources that are well able to Tellers were ordered; and Messrs. Price,
ized to be collected under this act sball be deposited afford to be taxed, you will be very likely to and Hooper of Massachusetts, were appointed.
in a national bank in any city or place where there
is located a Treasureror an Assistant Treasurer of the find yourself without revenue.
Mr. RANDALL. I desire to ask the Chair United States. Mr. GARFIELD. I rise to oppose the a question. Is a vote in the affirmative a vote Mr. O'NEILL. I want to ask my colleague amendment pro forma. I wish to call the to keep the tax where it now is under the [Mr. RANDALL) a question. attention of the committee to the fact that an existing law?
The CHAIRMAN. No further debate is in increase of the tax on circulation is much less The CHAIRMAN. Yes, sir.
order. productive of revenue than the same per cent. Mr. RANDALL. And a vote in the nega. Mr. RANDALL. I could not answer any of increase of the tax on deposits. The report tive is in favor of increasing the tax.
question if I would. of the Comptroller of the Currency shows that Mr. MAYWARD. I desire to ask the Chair Mr. LYXCII. I move to amend the amendin October last there were sixteen hundred and whether a vole for this amendment will keep ment by adding to it the following: forty three national banks, and that ihe total the tax at one per cent., and a vote against it
And provided further, That no public moneys shall circulation was about two hundred and ninety- make the tax two per cent. ?
be deposited in any bank in any city whero ibere is eight million dollars. The total deposits at Mr. FARNSWORTH. I rise to a question located a Treasurer or Assistant Treasurer of the Unithat time amounted to $565,500,000, being of order. That is not a parliamentary question.
ted States. nearly double the amount of circulation. It The committee divided ; and the tellers re.
Mr. RANDALL. That is the same as my will be seen that one twenty-fourth of one per i ported—ayes 51, noes 51.
amendment. cent. on deposits will produce twice as much The Chairman voted in the affirmative.
Mr. LYNCH. No, it is not.
The amend as one twenty-fourth of one per cent. on cir- So the amendinent was agreed to.
ment of the gentleman applies to moneys col: culation. Therefore, if our object is to increase Mr. SCHENCK. I am instructed by the lected under this act; my amendment to the the ainount of revenue derived from banks, we Committee of Ways and Means to offer the
amendinent relates to any public moneys. can do it much more effectually by increasing following amendment:
The question was then taken upon the amendthe tax on deposits than by increasing it on
Page 165, section one hundred and thirteen, line
ment of Mr. Lyxcl to the amendment of Mr. circulation, as proposed in this bill. I am sur- nine, after the word "banking" insert as follows: RANDALL; and it was not agreed to.
"and a tax of one-fourth of one per cent, each prised that it should be proposed to raise the month on the average amount of all deposits of
The question recurred upon the amendment tax which is already highest, and let the lower public money in their possession to the credit of the
of Mr. RANDALL. tax stand as it is now fixed by law.
Treasurer or of the disbursing officer of the United Mr. O'NEILL. I move to amend the amend
States." Another point, which has not been suffi
ment by adding to it the words provided such ciently considered in this debate. There is at Mr. GRISWOLD.
to amend deposits shall be made daily.'' the present, in my judgment, no more serious the amendment by inserting after the word Mr. RANDALL. That is provided for else. evil connected with our banking system than "amount” the words “in excess of $25,000.” where. the fact that the banks in the great money
The amendment to the amendinent was Mr. O'NEILL. Then I will withdraw my centers, such as New York, are allowed to disagreed to.
amendment. receive interest on deposits. The result is, all The question recurred on Mr. SCHENCK'S The question was then taken on the amendthe country banks deposit their money in these amendment; and being put, the amendment ment of Dir. Randall; and it was agreed to. banks and check against it at the same time was agreed to.
Mr. MAYNARD. I move to amend that that they are receiving interest on it, and are Mr. SCHENCK. I offer the following portion of this section providing for a tax on thus enabled substantially to use their money amendinent from the Committee of Ways and twice. While this is permitted they will of
the average amount of deposits, by striking out Means to make the section conform to the the words “one twenty-fourth” and inserting course not have money to lend at home to amendment just adopted :
one twelfıb." business men, even on good business paper, Page 165. section one hundred and thirteen, line Mr. STEVENS, of New Hampshire. I move except at an exorbitant rate of interest. The five, after the word “money” insert the words "other result is, that all over the West, and every. than public moneys of the United States."
to amend the amendment by striking out “one where in the rural districts, the currency is
The amendment was agreed to.
twelfth” and inserting "one sixth.'! relatively very scarce, although it is very plenty, Mr. RANDALL. I offer the following
The question was then taken upon the amend,
ment to the amendment, and it was not agreed even a plethora, in all great money centers. amendment, to come in at the end of the
to; there being, upon a division-ayes twenty: There bas not been a time in three years when section:
two, noes not counted. money could not be had on call at a very low Provided further, That none of the money herein The question was then taken upon the amend