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from what it was yesterday, more perhaps in consequence of what was said by the Senator from Ohio than any one else. Several Senators around me thought it was better to obviate an objection that he presented, that a person might be guilty of malfeasance in office, and it would be very hard if, under such circumstances, when he was turned out, and his successor appointed, a good man, he could not be paid until he was confirmed. The Senator froin Ohio suggested that he might die after discharging the duties of the office for months, and in that way be entirely without pay. I was disposed, so long as we could get at the object which I had in view, to accommodate the amendment as far as possible to the wishes of all, and hence I modified the amendment this morning. Now, it seems that in endeavoring to avoid Charybdis I have run upon Scylla, and the Senator from Maine says he cannot go for it as it is. If it is more acceptable to Senators to have it in the form in which it stood yesterday, it is certainly more acceptable to me in that form. That was my preference. I changed it at the suggestion of several Senators.
Mr. JOHNSON. Have the yeas and näys been called for?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The yeas and nays have been ordered.
Mr. JOINSON. We had better vote, then.
Mr. TRUMBULL. There seems to be a disposition to pass upon it to-day in the shape in which we had it yesterday. I ask the Secretary to read the amendment as it was proposed yesterday.
The Secretary read as follows: Sec. - And be it further enacted, That no person exercising or performing, or undertaking to exercise or perform, the duties of any oflice which by law is required to be filled by the advice and consent of the Senate, shall before confirmation by the Senate receive any salary or compensation for his services, unless such person be cominissioned by the President to fill up a vacancy which has happened by death, resignation, or expiration of term during the recess of the Senate, and since its last adjournment.
Jr. JOHNSON. That does not provide for the case of a removal?
Mr. TRUMBULL. No, sir.
Mr.JOHNSON. Then ifthe President should find out that an officer is dishonest and remove him, and appoint a successor on the 5th of March, at the end of the Congress, that officer is not to get any pay until the next December. The question is, whether that is right? It may be a Cabinet officer or a collector of the rev
I do not think the Senate, when they come to reflect upon it, will adopt a principle like that.
Mr. GRIMES. You will get plenty of men to take the offices.
Mr. JOHNSON, What sort of men?
Mr. RAMSEY. I move that the Senate proceed to the consideration of executive business.
Mr. HENDERSON. I hope the Senator will withdraw that motion for a moment until I can make a request of the Senator from Illinois. I hope that the Senator from Illinois will withdraw this amendment
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Does the Senator from Minnesota withdraw his motion?
Mr. RAMSEY. I do not like to do so. I am satisfied that the Senate are not prepared to vote on the question before them.
Mr. HENDERSON. I wish to make one remark.
Mr. RAMSEY. Will you renew the motion ?
Mr. RAMSEY. With that understanding I withdraw the motion.
Mr. HENDERSON. The proposition presented yesterday by the Senator from Illinois I like much better than the proposition presented to-day. The proposition as made to-day admits the power of the President to remove. I do not admit it.
The Senator from Maryland, in replying to me a short time ago, alluded to a case reported in 18 Howard, in which he stated that the court had decided that President Fillmore had a right
to remove a judge of a Territory appointed | have modificd its constitution and laws in conformity under an act of Congress. I sent for a copy
therewith, and shall have established an equal and of the book. I stated in my argument that
just system of sufl'ragefor all male citizens within its
jurisdiction, who are not less than twenty-one yeary the case did not contravene the other two cases of age, the Senators and Representatives from such relied upon by me; and if he will examine the State, if found duly elected and qualified, may, after
having taken the required oath of office, be admitcase he will find that although that question was
ted into Congress as such: Provided, That nothing in argned before the court, there was no decision this section contained shall be so construed as to remade on it. I undertake to say that the power
quire the distranchisement of any loyal person who to remove by the President without the con
is now entitled to vote. sent of the Senate has never been passed upon
The proposed amendment was ordered to be favorably by the Supreme Court. 'I have been printed. unable to find such a case, and I am satisfied
Mr. BINGHAM. I give notice of my intenthe case my friend relied upon does not sup
tion to offer an amendment which I send to the port his views, because the court followed the
desk and ask to have printed. doctrine that he regretted had not been fol- The proposed amendment was accordingly lowed in the other cases; they said that point ordered to be printed. was not before them. They merely decided
TAX ON CRUDE PETROLEUM. that the writ of mandamus could not go be.
Mr. MOORHEAD, from the Commmittee cause of their want of jurisdiction in the case.
of Ways and Means, asked leave to introduce Therefore, the other point was not decided,
a joint resolution to provide for the exemption and my friend will have to find some other of crude petroleum from internal revenue tax case in order to sustain his view.
or duty, and for other purposes. As I stated yesterday, I am preparing a bill Mr. ROSS. I object. on this subject. I think that an act of Con- Mr. MOORHEAD. The Committee of Ways gress ought to be passed placing this
and Means have unanimously recommended the hands of somebody, in one of the supreme this joint resolution. judges or in the President, to remove an offi- Mr. ROSS. I am not in favor of the proposicer in the cases alluded to by the honorable
tion at all, and am not willing it should come in. Senator from Maryland. But if the Senator from Illinois insists upon his proposition, I
RESOLUTION OF MASSACHUSETTS. shall vote for it as it now stands, because it Mr. DAWES submitted a resolution of the does curtail the power to a certain extent. But Commonwealth of Massachusetts on the state I think the power of appointment ought to be of the Union and the duties of the Government denied positively to the President in the vaca- to the freedmen; which was laid on the table, tion ; that is, the power of removing and then and ordered to be printed. declaring that a vacancy exists which he can
MARY A. RIPLEY. fill. So far as I am concerned, I am disposed
Mr. DRIGGS, by unanimous consent, introto deny that power absolutely unless it be
duced a bill for the relief of Mary A. Ripley; granted in extraordinary cases by act of Con
which was read a first and second time, and gress. Whenever an officer is appointed, and there is no limitation or duration fixed to the
referred, with the accompanying documents, to extent of his office, and there is no power
the Committee on Military Affairs.
Mr. ROSS. I ask leave to introduce a bill. expressly given by act of Congress for his
Mr. MOORHEAD. I object. removal, I deny the power of the President to remove him. I say the authority is perfectly
Mr. ROSS. I demand the regular order. abundant on that subject.
CESTOM-IIOUSE APPROPRIATIONS. I promised my friend from Minnesota to Mr: STEVENS, from the Committee on renew the motion to go into executive session, || Appropriations, reported back Senate joint He held me under some obligation to do it, and resolution No. 75, making appropriations for does yet, and I therefore renew the motion. the expenses of collecting the revenue from
Mr. SHERMAN. I simply desire to get the customs. sense of the Senate, and therefore I call for the The joint resolution was read. yeas and nays on that motion. I have no feel- | priates $2,100,000 for the expenses of collecting about it. If the Senate desire to prolonging the revenue from customs. this matter until to-morrow they.can do so; Mr. STEYENS. I simply want to say that but I want to close it to-day.
the law of 1858, precisely in the words of this, nays were ordered ; and being has been acted upon ever since that time, taken, resulted-yeas 22, nays 13; as follows: being the permanent law; and that the large
YEAS-Messrs. Anthony, Davis, Dixon, Doolittle, increase in the expense of collecting the Fessenden, Grimes, Guthrie, Harris, Henderson, Ilow
revenue, being $300,000 more than it was, ard. Howe, Johnson, Lane of Kurusas, Nesmith, Poland, Ramsey, Riddle, Sprague, Sumner, Van Winklo,
makes this necessary.
It is an increase from Wilson, and Yates-22.
$1,800,000 to $2,100,000. It reënacts the old NAYS-Messrs. Chandler, Clark, Conness, Cragin, Lane of Indiana, Morgan, Morrill, Nye, Pomeroy,
law; or, rather, repeals it, and makes one Sherman. Triunbull, Wade, and Willey-13.
precisely like it, with the addition of $300,000 ABSENT-Messrs. Brown, Buckalew, Cowan, Cres- a year, which is found necessary. That is the well, Edmunds, Foster, Hendricks, Kirkwood, Mc
whole of the bill. Dougall, Norton, Saulsbury, Stewart, Williains, and Wright-14.
The joint resolution was ordered to be read EXECUTIVE SESSION.
a third time; and it was accordingly read the So th motion was agreed to ; and the Sen
third time and passed.
Mr. STEVENS moved to reconsider the vote ate proceeded to the consideration of executive business. After some time spent in executive by which the joint resolution was passed; and session, the doors were reopened, and the Sen.
also moved that the motion to reconsider be ate adjourned.
laid upon the table.
The latter motion was agreed to.
CIIANGE OF REFERENCE.
On motion of Mr. HIGBY, by unanimous The House met at twelve o'clock m. Prayer | discharged from the further consideration of
consent, the Committee on Appropriations were by the Chaplain, Rev. C. B. Boynton.
the memorials of P. E. Saunders, and others, The Journal of yesterday was read and approved.
inspectors of customs in Detroit, Michigan,
asking for increase of pay; also, the memorial RECONSTRUCTION.
of the Legislature of Minnesota, asking an apMr. BOUTWELL, by unanimous consent, propriation for improving the harbors of Lake gave notice that he would propose to amend || Superior; and the same were referred to the the “bill to provide for the restoration of the Comınittee on Commerce. States in insurrection to their full practical
DESTITUTE PEOPLE IN TIIE SOCTII. rights," by striking out all after the enacting
Mr. ELIOT. I ask unanimous consent to clause and inserting the following:
introduce the following resolution for reference: That whenever the above recited amendment shall have become part of the Constitution, and Tennessee Whereas it is represented, on civil and military or Arkansas shall have ratitied the same, and soul authority and by otlicial reports to the Freedmen's
Bureau, that an alarming condition of destitution terday, being the consideration of House bill Illinois to understand that I have no disposiamong the white population and freedmen, extend
No. 181, entitled “An act to amend an act tion or intention to embarrass the action of the ing to absolute vant of food, exists in various portions of the South, and especially in Arkansas, entitled "An act to encourage immigration,' | House upon this bill; on the contrary, I very Alabama, and South Carolina, and that without approved July 4, 1861, and an act entitled • An much desire its passage. Section three of this Government aid thousands may perish by starvation
act to regulate the carriage of passengers in bill substantially embodies a portion of the before the raising of another crop: Therefore,
Resolved. That the select committee on the freed - steamships and other vessels,' approved March provisions contained in the bill introduced by men inquire into the expediency of an appropriation 3, 1805, and for other purposes.
I only desire to have it understood that of $100,000 for the immediate relief by rations of food
The bill was reported without amendment, the passage of this bill shall not prejudice the to those thus destitute, giving preference in such relief to those whose personal property and sup
the pending question being upon ordering it to passage of my own bill when it shall come plies of food have been destroyed by the ravages of be engrossed and read a third time.
before the House. war, to be expended under the direction of the Com
Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. This bill Mr. CHANLER. I desire to ask the genmissioner of Freedmen. Refugees, and Abandoned Lands; and that the said committee have the right
was reported from the Committee on Com- tleman from Illinois [Mr. WASHBURNE] if this to report on such subject for consideration in the merce, and with the report accompanying it | bill has been recommended by any competent House at any time.
has been printed for some time, and placed || authority: Mr. STEVENS. I merely wish to inquire upon the files of members. It is a pretty broad Mr. DARLING. I have not yet yielded the of the gentleman from Massachusetts the ne
bill in its provisions, and I desire members to floor. I desire to move to insert after the cessity of this resolution. Yesterday the Com
examine it closely, as it may be broader than words, “Commissioner of Immigration," at mittee on Appropriations reported a bill appro- some members may be willing to agree to. But the close of section four, the words," with priating about eleven million dollars for this the committee believe that in consequence of the approval of the Secretary of State.” The very purpose, and that bill is to be considered
the vast immigration to this country at the pres- clause will then read: to-day in Committee of the Whole on the state ent time, and the character of the vessels in It shall be lawful for the Commissioner of Immiof the Union.
which these immigrants are brought to this gration, with the approval of the Secretary of State, Mr. ELIOT. That appropriation is not for country, it is important that something should
before or after suit brought, to compound any of said
penalties, payments, or forfeitures, upon such terms be done inmediately in this matter.
as be shall think proper. Mr. STEVENS. It is for the purposes of The bill was read in full.
Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I thank the bureau.
Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I move to Mr. ELIOT. This is rather more extended l amend the last clause of the section in relation
the gentleman for his suggestion; I think the
amendment is a very proper one. than that.
to the enforcement of penalties, being section Mr. STEVENS. Then I have not the least
The amendment was agreed to. four of the bill, so that it shall read:
Mr. DARLING. objection.
I move to amend by It shall be lawful for the Commissioner of ImmiMr. ELIOT. This resolution is only for ref- gration, before or after suit brought, to compound
striking out in the third section the following erence to the committee on freedmen's affairs. any of said penaltics, payments, or forfeitures, upon words, beginning at the word “ship’ in the
such terms as he shall ihink proper. Mr. STEVENS, thought perhaps the
The amendment was agreed to. gentleman was not aware that the Committee
Owned in whole or in part by a citizen of the on Appropriations had reported on this subject.
Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. There is United States or by a citizen of any foreign country,
and. Mr. ELIOT. Oh, yes, I was.
one section printed in this bill which has been Mr. STEVENS. That is all. inserted by mistake-section eight. I move to
This phraseology is mere surplusage; for The resolution was referred to the committee strike out the section.
who but a citizen of the United States or of a on freedmen's affairs.
The section was as follows:
foreign country can own a ship? I suppose Sec. 8. And he it further enacted, That all fines, pen
the gentleman from Illinois will not object to PAY DEPARTMENT OF TIIE NAVY.
altics, and forfeitures recovered at the port of New this amendment. Mr. RICE, of Massachusetts. I ask leave to York by virtue of this act, or any act hereby amended, Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I have no
except for death of passengers on voyage, shall be report back, from the Committee on Naval Af paid over to the superintendent of immigration at
objection to that amendment. fairs, House bill No.197, to provide forthe better that city, to be accounted for hy him to the Commis- The amendment was agreed to. organization of the pay department of the Navy, sioner of Immigration, and disposed of by the latter which has been returned from the Senate with as now provided by law.
Mr. DARLING. I move to amend by strikamendments. The committee recommend a
The motion to strike out was agreed to.
ing out in the fifth line of the same section the concurrence in the amendments of the Senate. Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. If no one
word “fourteen,' and inserting in lieu thereof There was no objection; and the report was desires to be heard upon the bill I will ask that
the word “ twelve," so that the clause will read received, and the amendments of the Senate the House vote upon it now,
as follows: were concurred in, as follows:
Mr. DARLING. I hope the gentleman from
That in every passenger ship carrying passengers
to or from the United States, all the male passengers On page 1, line seven, afterthe word "paymasters,"
Illinois [Mr. WASHBURNE) will not call the pre- of the age of twelve years and upward, who shall not insert and all passed assistant paymasters authorized vious question upon this bill at this time. occupy berths with their wives, shall be berthed in by this act to be appointed who have not heretofore
Mr. WASHBÚRNE, of Illinois. I have no
the fore part of the ship, in a compartment divided been appointed and commissioned as assistant pay
off from the space appointed to the other passengers masters, and all assistant paymasters hereby author
desire to call the previous question now if ge- by a substantial and well-secured bulkhead, without ized to be appointed, shall be selected from those who tlemen desire to discuss the bill. This measure opening into or communicating with the aforesaid have served as acting assistant paymasters for the term of one year, and who were eligible to appointis no pet of mine; it is for the benefit of the con
adjoining space. ment to the grade of assistant paymnasters when they stituents of the gentleman from New York, [Mr.
Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I have no were appointed assistant paymasters as aforesaid.' Darling.] If he desires to kill the bill, he may objection to that amendment. On the same page and line, after the word "sub
The amendment was agreed to. ject," insert "however.' Mr. RICE, of Massachusetts, moved to re
Mr. DARLING. I agree with the distin- Mr. CHANLER. I ask the gentleman from consider the vote by which the amendments of guished gentleman from Illinois [Mr. Wash- Illinois to give us some information relative to
the fourteenth section. It strikes me this secthe Senate were concurred in; and also moved BURNE! as to the importance of this bill, particthat the motion to reconsider be laid upon the
ularly in relation to the port of New York and tion gives a great latitude of power to the naval table.
other ports of the Atlantic coast. But I had surveyors, and may operate injuriously with The latter motion was agreed to.
the honor, on the 29th of January, of introdu- regard to immigration. This power may be Mr. McRUER. Will the gentleman from
cing a bill amending the present passenger law exerted in such a way as to interfere improperly Illinois [Mr. WASHBURNE] yield to me for a
in regard to the carrying of passengers. That with those engaged in the business of bringing
bill, I understand, has been submitted by the immigrants to this country. The gentleman moment? Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I yield for
committee to the Secretary of the Treasury and will oblige me by giving some information in a moment to the gentleman from Ohio, [Mr. || ported to the House by the committee, I shall
has met with his approval. If it is to be re- regard to the history and necessity of this secSCHECK.)
tion. For the purpose of eliciting an explanaMr. ROSS. I demand the regular order of
not object to some alterations being made in it. tion I move to strike out the fourteenth section. business.
Otherwise I should like to have incorporated Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. This is The SPEAKER. Then the Chair must
in this bill the first section of the bill introduced one of the most vital sections of the bill. If arrest all other business but the regular order.
by me, which covers pretty much all the defect- we strike it out we may as well defeat the Mr. SCHENCK. I hope the gentleman
ive points in the present passenger law. whole bill. I could not hear distinctly the from Illinois (Mr. Ross] will hear what he is
Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I would remarks of the gentleman from New York, objecting to.
say, in reply to the gentleman from New York, [Mr. CHANLER,) and do not understand preMr. RICE, of Massachusetts. I desire to | [Mr. Darling,] that the bill he has introduced cisely the ground of his objection. offer a resolution to carry into operation the
is being considered by the Committee on Com- As the law now stands, there are so many provisions of the bill just passed.
merce, and will undoubtedly be reported upon abuses in regard to the space which shall be The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Illi
favorably when that committee is called. There occupied by passengers in these ships, that it pois [Mr. Ross] demands the regular order of
are some very important provisions in it, but is found necessary to authorize byalaw some business.
they would be out of place in this bill. This specific officer to make the surveys. Hence, Mr. ROSS. I desired to offer a resolution
bill is in aid of the Bureau of Immigration, and by this bill, it is made the duty of the naval a short time ago and objection was made, and
is one of very great importance to the city of surveyors at the various ports to attend to I must therefore insist on the regular order.
New York. I have no particular interest in it making the surveys. The want of such action
myself; but I am somewhat surprised to see my and such authority has led to the greatest pos. REGULATION OF IMMIGRATION.
friend disposed to embarrass the passage of this sible abuses, as the gentleman from New York The SPEAKER stated the regular order of bill.
must thoroughly understand. business to be the unfinished business of yes- Mr. DARLING. I wish the gentleman from Mr. CHANLER. I am fully aware that some
provision of this kind is necessary for the rego to survey ships and vessels engaged in the carrying The question then recurred on the adoption ulation of immigrant ships coming to this coun- of passengers under the laws of the United States,
of the preamble; and it was also agreed to. and to certify under their hand and seal to the Comtry. But the power proposed by this section missioner of Immigration the spaces in cach such ship
Mr. STEVENS moved to reconsider the vote to be given to the surveyor of the port is very or vessel on the various decks, said spaces to be classed by which the preamble and resolution were great. He will hold in his hands the control as first and second cabin and stocrage, and how many of the whole business of immigration. I bepassengers the said ship or vessel may be entitled to
passed; and also moved that the motion to carry under the laws of the United States in cach of
reconsider be laid upon the table. lieve that the bill should contain some efficient suid spaces, classed as aforesaid, &c.
The latter motion was agreed to. provision with reference to the measurement Mr. Speaker, my object in this amendment
ILLINOIS SIIIP-CANAL. of accommodations given to the immigrants.
is to provide that a ship entitled to carry one I desire that those accommodations should be
Mr. ROSS. I ask unanimous consent to thousand passengers, as follows: one hundred the most comfortable and healthy. My object in first cabin, two hundred in second cabin, and
introduce a bill for reference. I do not want is not to prevent, but to aid and facilitate seven hundred in steerage, shall not crowd the
to place myself in the condition of some other immigration. But it appears to me that by put- whole number into the steerage or overcrowd
gentlemen claiming the credit of manufacturting this immense power in the hands of a
ing this bill. It was one that was passed at any other portion of a ship. single officer we shall not so much facilitate Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. That is
the last Congress. It is a bill to construct a immigration as enable the power of one man not applicable to this, but to another measure
ship-canal for the passage of armed and naval to control the whole system. There may be which the committee have been considering.
vessels from the Mississippi river to Lake Michsome stringent necessity for giving this extreme I insist on the demand for the previous ques
igan, and for other purposes. and unrestricted power to regulate the whole tion.
The bill was read a first and second time, and of the immense immigration into the port of
referred to the Committee on Roads and Canals.
The previous question was seconded and the New York. Unless such necessity exists, I main question ordered.
LONG BRIDGE. think we should provide some system of checks, Mr. CHANLER's motion was rejected.
Mr. ROLLINS, by unanimous consent, subsuch as do not now appear in the bill.
The bill was ordered to be engrossed and I have risen simply to call the attention of
mitted the following resolution; which was read a third time; and being engrossed, it was read, considered, and agreed to: the House to this section. I desire to make no
accordingly read the third time and passed. Resolved, That the Committee for the District of opposition to the bill, nor to any proper and Mr. WASHBURNE, of Minois, moved to Columbia be instructed to inquire into the facts conbeneficent measure having the same object. reconsider the vote by which the bill was passed;
cerning the interruption of travel over Long Bridge, But this bill has been brought forward with and also moved that the motion to reconsider
and report the reasons why said bridge is allowed to very little explanation. We should not, I
remain impassable for months. be laid upon the table. think, be called upon to pass on such a meas- The latter motion was agreed to.
Mr. ROLLINS moved to reconsider the ure without fully understanding it. Certainly
vote by which the resolution was agreed to;
PROVOST MARSIIAL GENERAL. we are entitled to have full information on this
and also moved that the motion to reconsider subject.
The SPEAKER announced the following as be laid upon the table. We are told that the section is vital, and the select committee on the Provost Marshal's
The latter motion was agreed to. that we might as well vote down the entire bill
Bureau, &c.: Messrs. SHELLABARGER, WINDOM, THANKS TO OFFICERS, SOLDIERS, AND SEAMEN. as to strike out this section. But that is no
Boyer, Cook, and WARNER. answer to the demand for information. If the Mr. DARLING, by unanimous consent, sub
Mr.SCHENCK, by unanimous consent, from gentleman has no practical information to give, mitted the following resolution ; which was
the Committee on Military Affairs, reported
back without amendment Senate joint resolu• the majority of the House can act under his read, considered, and agreed to:
tion No. 34, expressive of the gratitude of the leadership: My object is not to defeat the Whereas, reports are freely circulated, and charges made, that recruits were by fraudulent practices in
nation to the officers, soldiers, and seamen of bill. I only ask whether the gentleman is able
duced to enlist in the armies of the United States, in the United States. to give a plausible reason why so much power the city of New York and elsewhere, by officers of The joint resolution was read the third time should be given to the naval surveyor as to the Government, and other persons employed by such control immigration across the Atlantic; that, officers to aid in such fraudulent practices; and
and passed. whereas it is alleged that such recruits when enlisted
Mr. SCHENCK moved to reconsider the indeed, it should be left entirely and exclu- were deprived of their bounty and incarcerated in vote by which the joint resolution was passed; sively in the bands of the surveyor of New prison, and this bounty divided and shared between York. such officers and the persons who were employed by
and also moved to lay that motion on the table. them, and also that persons engaged in the business
The latter motion was agreed to. Mr. DONNELLY. The proposition of the of recruiting for the Army in the city of New York gentleman from New York is to strike out the and elsewhere, were also defrauded by such officers
TAX ON CRUDE PETROLEUM. fourteenth section of the bill. I will say, in and other persons acting in concert with them, and
Mr. MOORHEAD. I now ask leave to relarge amounts of money demanded and extorted answer, that if the motion is adopted it will from them, and that they were imprisoned until such port from the Committee of Ways and Means strike out the vital portion of the pending demands were complied with, and were then imme- à joint resolution to provide for the exemption Without that section the bill would
diately released; and whereas it is important that
of crude petroleum from internal tax or duty, be a nullity. ascertained: Therefore,
and for other purposes. The bill is intended in the main for the pro
Resolved, That the select committee of five ap- The joint resolution was read. tection of immigrants to this country from being
pointed under the resolution of the 30th ultimo, be
Mr. ROSS. I supposed this was intended overcrowded, as many of them are, on ship- have full power to send for persons and papers, and
for reference. board. We find when we permit such over
report the results of such investigation to this House Mr. KUYKENDALL. I object to the introcrowding we not only do great injustice to the as soon as practicable,
duction of the joint resolution. immigrant, but we incur the danger to the STARVING MOUNTAINEERS OF ALABAMA. Mr. MOORHEAD. I will explain. country, as we have already seen, of having a Mr. KELLEY. I ask unanimous consent
Mr. KUYKENDALL. I have no objection terrible pestilence brought into our ports, and of the House to submit the following resolution to an explanation, but I shall object after it is thence spread over the land.
for the relief of the starving people of the explained. The section provides that every vessel carry- mountain districts of Alabama:
Mr. MOORHEAD. It was reported unaniing immigrants shall be surveyed so as to
Whereas it is reported by citizens of Alabama, in
mously by the committee. A committee from ascertain whether overcrowding takes place; formal memorial to the two Houses of Congress, that the oil region came down here and showed a and where overcrowding does take place a
many of the people of the mountain districts of that terrible state of affairs, arson and anarchy, in
State are suffering from want of adequate supplies of penalty is imposed. It is the vital portion of food and that a considerable number of them have
consequence of this act. These gentlemen apthe bill. died of actual starvation: Therefore,
peared before the committee and satisfied us I think the House and country are indebted Resolved, That the President be requested to in- that it was a state of affairs that required prompt
struct the proper officer or officers of the Bureau of to the gentleman from Illinois [Mr. WASHRefugees and Freedmen to inquire into the condition
action. The same provision is in the bill. This BURNE] for pressing through this bill. It is of said districts, and any other districts of the insur- will only make it act three or four weeks sooner. not only a measure of safety for our own peo
gent States, in which such suffering may be said to Mr. KUYKENDALL. Why not send the
exist, and to relieve the people thereof, and provide ple, but of humanity to those whom our laws them with corn and other sced for planting a crop
soldiers to put the burning down? invite to our shores, who are to become citi- sufficient for an annual supply to each family requir
Mr. MOORHEAD. That would be very zens among us, and whose immigration hither ing such relief.
expensive. should be encouraged by every proper means.
There was no objection.
The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the We must avoid these "horrors of the iniddle Mr. SMITH. To what class does it refer? consideration of this joint resolution? The passage," the recital of which, in the case of Mr. KELLEY. Those who are referred to Chair hears none, and the joint resolution is ihe vessels which have lately reached New in the memorial I had the honor to present before the House. York and Halifax, freighted with pestilence, some time ago. They are white mountaineers Mr. KUYKENDALL. I do not withdraw revive the memory of the African slave trade. of Alabama, who served in either army. They my objection.
Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I demand are the poor white people of northern Álabama. The SPEAKER. The Chair asked if there the previous question.
Mr. SPALDING. I hope the gentleman was objection, and paused, and no person Mr. CHANLER. If the gentleman demands will insert the word “white.!!
objected. the previous question, cutting off information,
Mr. KELLEY. I do not suppose there are Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. The genI must insist on my motion to strike out. any colored people in those mountains. I tleman from Illinois (Mr. KUYKENDALL) did Mr. McRUER. I ask to amend the section demand the previous question.
persist in his objection, and I am bound in jusso that it will read as follows:
The previous question was seconded and the tice to say that gentlemen all around here heard Sec. 14. And be il further enacted, That it shall bo
main question ordered; and under the opera. him. He objected when the Chair called for the duty of the naval surveyors at the various ports
tion thereof the resolution was agreed to. objection.
Mr. MOORHEAD. He did not object from seems to me to be a little “ steep." I ask the upon looking over this bill, that it was prehis seat.
chairman of the Committee on Appropriations | pared with reference to another condition of Mr. BROMWELL. I objected from my to explain that.
facts. I was not in our committee when this seat, but was not heard by the Chair.
Mr. STEVENS. The report of the Commis. bill was passed upon by them. But my impres. The SPEAKER. If the gentleman objected sioner of this bureau, if the gentleman will turn sion now is that the sums named in the billare from his seat it is good.
to it, sets forth the whole matter. I hope the based upon facts, to a certain extent, that do Mr. KUYKENDALL. I notified the Chair | gentleman has read it. It shows most urgent not now exist. For example, very many of in time that I would renew the objection after need for this appropriation, because these the persons for whom transportation was origithe explanation.
school-houses, which have been built in a great | nally designed, whether refugees or freedmen, The SPEAKER. If the gentleman states many instances upon abandoned lands, at a have already been transported to their homes, that he renewed it that is sufficient.
very great expense even to some of the freed- or to places where they have found employ. Mr. RAYMOND. I wish to say that when men, have nearly all of them, by order of the ment." I say this is my impression. Whether the Chair put the question whether there was President, been restored to the rebel owners ; my impression is correct or not, I think we objection the last time, I distinctly heard the and now the Department is obliged to go into | ought, as the gentleman from Vermont [Mr. gentleman from Illinois [Mr. LUYKENDALL] the purchase of lands for school-houses for || MORRILL) suggests, to take sufficient time to say “I object, of course." It may not have these poor, willing people, or to have no school- ascertain whether it is not practicable to cut reached the Speaker's ear.
houses at all
. The estimate which has been down this large amount of appropriation. If The SPEAKER. If the gentleman from made amounts to what we have reported in this the chairman of the Committee on AppropriaIllinois states that himself, that is enough. bill. There are now at this time, or there were tions [Mr. STEVENS] knows that I am in error,
Mr. KUYKENDALL. I objected certainly. at the time the report was made, between a of course my reason for delay is without foun.
Mr. MOORHEAD. I raise the point of hundred and a hundred and fifty thousand dation. But I think we ought to take a little order that the gentleman from Illinois was not scholars, and there are now over two hundred | time to examine into this bill. in his seat when he objected.
thousand, who are all to be turned out unless Mr. STEVENS. I know only what the The SPEAKER. The point of order comes this appropriation is made. I think it is the Commissioner of the Freedmen's Bureau, too late. The objection of the gentleman from most wholesome provision that could be made; General Howard, has informed me. Twice Illinois was in time.
and that no like sum of money will be paid out within the last week he has urged me to have Mr. MORRILL. I think the gentleman for a better purpose. They have never had this bill passed, stating that it was impossible would not object if he would hear the bill fairly half the number of school-houses they should to go on with the operations of that bureau explained.
have had for the purpose of accommodating unless this bill be passed. All the transporMr. KUYKENDALL. I object to any arti- even the present number of scholars.
tation and all the clothing which the bureau has cle being brought in here and exempted before
Mr. ASHLEY, of Ohio. I think this claim been supplying is to be paid out of this approthe main bill is acted on. I do not know but in relation to school-houses should be trans- priation, and it is the urgency of the case which that I shall object to exempting this article || posed; it is now somewhat imperfect. induces me again to call the previous question. even in the main bill, but I certainly object to
Mr. BLAINE. With land at $500 an acre, Mr. ROSS. I move to lay the bill on the table; taking a particular article from the main bill an appropriation of S3,000,000 would be enough and on that motion I call the yeas and nays. to exempt it before anything else.
to purchase sites for fifty thousand school- The yeas and nays were ordered. Mr. MORRILL. There are peculiar circum. houses.
The question was taken; and it was decided stances.
Mr. STEVENS. I move to amend the clause in the negative-yeas 27, nays 91, not voting The SPEAKER. The bill is not before the in relation to school-houses and asylums by 05; as follows: House, objection being made.
inserting after the word “sites' the words YEAS-Messrs. Ancona, Bergen, Boyer, Chanler,
* and buildings." It will then read: “ For Coflroth, Dawson, Denison, Eldridge, Finck, GlossFREEDVEN'S BUREAU APPROPRIATION. sites and buildings for school-houses and asy.
brenner, Grider, Aaron llarding, James M. Hum
phrey, Marshall, Morris, Niblack, Noell, Samuel J. Mr. STEVENS. I move that the rules be lums, $3,000,000.”
Randall, Ritter, Ross, Shanklin, Sitgreaves, Smith, suspended and the House resolve itself into The amendment was agreed to.
Strouse, Taylor, Thornton, and Wintielu-27. the Committee of the Whole on the state of Mr. ELDRIDGE. That was the very clause
NAYS-Messrs. Alley, Allison, Ames, Delos R.
Ashley, James M. Ashley. Baker, Banks, Baxter, the Union for the purpose of considering the in regard to which I desired to make an inquiry Beaman, Benjamin, Bidwell, Bingham, Blaine, Blow, special order. of the gentleman from Pennsylvania, (Mr. STE
Boutwell, Brandezce, Bromwell, Buckland, Reader W. The motion was agreed to. VENS.) We could not hear the conversation of
Clarke, Sidney Clarke, Cobb, Conkling. Cook. Cullom,
Darling, Dawes, Defrees, Deming, Dooge. Dounelly, So the rules were suspended; and the House | gentlemen on the other side, and do not know Driggs, Eliot, Garfield, Grinnell, Griswold, Abner C. accordingly resolved itself into the Committee what that clause was intended to mean. It llarding, Henderson, Ilolmes, llotchkis, A-alei W. of the Whole on the state of the Union, (Mr.
Ilibbard, Chester D. llubbaril, James R. Iluhhell, seems to be a very large sum for sites for
Hulburd, Ingersoll, Jenckes, Julian, Kasson, Kelley, DONNELLY in the chair,) and proceeded to the asylums and school-louses.
kuykendall, Laflin, George V. Lawrence, Loan, consideration of the special order, being bill Mr. STEVENS. It has been amended so Longyear, Lynch, McClurg. McKec, McRuer, Moore of the House No. 545, making appropriations as to include sites and buildings.
head, Morrill, Moulton. Newell, O'Neill. Ortb, Paine,
Patterson, Perham, Phelps, Pike. Plants. Raymond, for the uses of the Bureau of Retugees, Freed- Mr. ELDRIDGE. That makes a very differ- Alexander II. Rice, Rollins, Schenrk. Shellabarger, men, and Abandoned Lands, for the fiscal year ent thing of it.
Spalding, Stevens, Sulwell, Trowbridge, lpson,
Van Aernan, Burt Van Ilorn. Waril. Warner. Elihu commencing January 1, 1806.
Mr. BANKS. I would inquire what is the
B. Washburne, Henry D. Washhurn, William B. By unanimous consent the first reading of nature of the transportation for which this bill Washburn, Whaley, James F. Wilson, Stephen F. the bill was dispensed with; and the bill was makes an appropriation of $1,980,000.
Wilson, Windoin, and Woodbridge-1.
NOT VOTING-Messrs. Anderson, Baldwin, Barthen read by clauses for amendment, when Mr. STEVENS. I understand that, by the
ker, Broomall, Bunily, C'ulver, Davis. Delano, Dixon, no amendments were offered.
operations of the Government in restoring the Dumont, Eckley, Eggleston, Farnsworth, Faranbar, Mr. STEVENS. I move that the commit- forfeited and abandoned lands to their former Ferry, Goodyear, Hale, Ilarris, Hart, Hayes, Hizby,
Hill, Hogen, llooper, Demas Ilubbard, John 11. tee rise and report the bill to the House. owners, a great many of these freedmen must
Hubbard, Edwin N. Hubbell, Janes Humphrey, The motion was agreed to.
be transported to other places; the Department Johnson, Jones, Kelso, Kerr, Ketcham, Latham. So the committee rose ; and the Speaker hav. has been driven by the action of the Govern
Willian Lawrence, Le Blond, Marston, Marvio, ing resumed the chair, Mr. DONNELLY reported
MeCullough, VoIndoe. Mercur. Miller. Myers, Michment to transport many of these people to other
olson, Pomeroy, Price, Radford, William H. Randall, that the Committee of the Whole on the state placés.
John II. Rice, Rogers, Rousseau, Sawyer, Scofield, of the Union had had the Union generally Mr. BANKS. It seems to be a very large
Sloan. Starr, Taber, Thayer, Francis Thomas John under consideration, and particularly the spe
L. Thomas, Trimble, Robert T. Van llorn, Welker, sum for transportation alone.
Wentworth, Williams, and Wright:67. cial order, beiug bill of the House No. 515, Mr. STEVENS. It is for transporting both So the motion to lay the bill on the table making appropriations for the uses of the Bu- refugees and freedmen. And the amount of was not agreed to. reau of Refugees, Freedmen, and Abandoned money expended at this moment for refugees Mr. LAWRENCE, of Ohio, who was absent Lands for the fiscal year commencing January it will be found is more than double the amount during the call of the roll, stated that if pres. 1, 1866, and had directed him to report the expended for freedmen.
ent he would have voted in the negative. same back to the House without amendment Ir. MORRILL. I would ask the gentleman and with the recommendation that it do pass. from Pennsylvania if he will not consent to
MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDENT. Mr. STEVENS. I move the previous ques- have this bill go over for a day or two, in order
A message in writing from the President of tion on the engrossinent of the bill. that it and the report of the Commissioner may
the United States was received, by Mr. COOPER, Mr. BLAINE. I desire to ask the gentle. || be examined. I perceive that it appropriates || the President had approved and signed bills
his Private Secretary, who also announced that man from Pennsylvania a question.
$11,500,000 and more, which is certainly a very Mr. STEVENS. I yield for that purpose. large sum, and the bill should be fully under
of the following titles: Mr. BLAINE. In line twenty-four of the stood by the House.
An act making appropriations to supply defibill I notice an appropriation of $3,000,000
Mr. STEVENS. I had supposed that every
ciencies in the appropriations for the public “ for sites for school-houses and asylums." | gentleman who felt any interest in this matter
printing for the fiscal year ending June 30, Now, I have understood that land in the re- had examined the subject and knew all about
1866; and bellious States has become very cheap by it. The bill is based upon reports of the Com
An act for the relief of George R. Frank, reason of the suppression of the rebellion, and missioner made since the 1st of December.
late a captain of the thirty-third regiment Wisif we are going into the building of school- Mr. KASSON. Will the gentleman from
consin volunteer infantry. houses on a scale large enough to require an Pennsylvania allow me a word?
FREEDMET'S BUREAU APPROPRIATION--AGAIN. appropriation of $3,000,000 for the mere pur- Mr. STEVENS. Certainly.
The question recurred ou seconding the dechase of sites on which they are to be built, it Mr. KASSON. I am inclined to think, Il mand for the previous question.
Mr. STEVENS. I withdraw the demand for question before the gentleman proceeds. Has three or four times in the committee, and it the previous question, and move to amend by this expense been incurred, or is the appro- was fully discussed. reducing the appropriation from $3,000,000 to priation to be hereafter used? If a part has Mr. NIBLACK. I would inquire how the $2,000,000.
been incurred, wliat portion is hereafter to be titles of these school-houses and asylums proMr. SPALDING. That is right. used?
posed to be built by the bureau are to be taken. Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. I under- Mr. ELIOT. Which appropriation does the Mr. ELIOT. In the name of the United stand that the committee on freedmen have gentleman refer to?
States; all the property will belong to the Unigiven this subject some examination; and I Mr. ELDRIDGE, I mean in the aggregate. ted States. desire to suggest to the gentleman from Penn- Mr. ELIOT. It would be impossible to Mr. NIBLACK. Does this constitute a sylvania whether it would not be well to refer answer that question accurately; a portion has permanent system or a temporary one? this matter to that committee, that they may been used and a portion is to be used.
Mr. ELIOT. It must necessarily be temreport upon it.
In regard to transportation, about twenty- porary as we all presume. It is one of those Mr. STEVENS. There seems to be some two thousand refugees and freedmen have been things which we cannot get clear of. It is difficulty among gentlemen around me, because transported, and those twenty-two thousand temporary, but it costs something now. Let they are not well informed in regard to this have been charged by the quartermaster's me say that the buildings which have been matter. I desire to say a word of explanation. department to the Freedmen's Bureau. That heretofore used for schiool-houses have been
These commissary stores, for instance, are has all to come out of this appropriation. It taken from the rebels who had forinerly occustores furnished out of what is already on hand. is estimated that about forty-four thousand pied them. School-houses were deserted and These stores, instead of being sold, have been will want to be transported. If the gentleman || abandoned here and there which could be made furnished, and are still being furnished, to desires it I will state who they are and what available. But now these buildings have been these freedmen, and they are charged to this they are. There are in this District, because taken from the possession of the bureau and bureau. These stores are furnished, not only of the war and because of the demand for labor, have been substantially returned to the owners, to the freedmen, but also to the refugees in some four or five thousand who can have homes and the time has come when these one hunmuch larger proportion.
provided for them by the Government, and dred and twenty-five thousand children, white One word as to the necessity for appropria- who will cost nothing to the Government when and black, will be taken from their buildings tions for transportation. I have in my hand a they have been removed to these homes. They unless the Government for a season interposes. note from General Howard, stating that with- cannot get there now, and a part of this is to Mr. CHANLER. Will the gentleman allow out an appropriation it is impossible for him pay that expense.
me to ask upon what authority he makes the to furnish the necessary transportation to these Mr. ELDRIDGE. How much of the three || assertion that if the public school-houses in the people. Numbers are flocking into this city | millions for sites for school-houses and asylums South ereeted for the education of white chilto whom he desires to furnish transportation; || has been expended?
dren are returned to the white people of the but he cannot do so. He has gone as far as Mr. ELIOT. There has been no money South, the white children will be kept out of the Secretary of War will allow him to go un- appropriated for or expended in the purchase | school? der the present appropriation. I will ask the of lands or buildings I am aware of.
Mr. ELIOT. I have not said any such thing. chairman of the committee on freedmen (Mr. I will say, Mr. Speaker, there is no school Mr. CHANLER. I understood the gentleEliot] to state whether these things are neces- the expenses of which have been borne by the man to say that unless this appropriation was sary or not.
Government. It has never paid for any tuition. made for these school-houses which have been Mr. ELIOT. In reply to the inquiry of the All the expenses of tuition have been defrayed seized by the Government, formerly held by gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. STEVENS] by benevolent associations of the North and the rebels, now used for white and black chilI will state that this subject has not been par- West. There are some thirteen or fourteen || dren, these children will be turned out. lle ticularly examined before the committee on hundred teachers employed, and there are made that assertion, and I want him to state freedmen. But I have personally, as a mem- some ninety to one hundred thousand scholars. upon what authority he can show this House ber of the House, taken some pains to ascer
Mr. ELDRIDGE. I desire to know whether that the white children of the South are edutain, by inquiry at the office of the Commis- this $3,000,000 has been founded upon any cated by this bureau; and I want him to show sioner of the Freedmen's Bureau, in regard to report?
by what authority the education of the white these items of appropriation ; and I should be Mr. ELIOT. It has been.
children will be lessened by not following out very glad to answer any inquiry which any Mr. ELDRIDGE. How, if that $3,000,000 || his plan. gentleman on the floor may feel disposed to be necessary, can $1,000,000 be stricken off, Mr. ELIOT. I cannot consent to get myself put concerning the propriety of any of these without consultation with any committee or into a controversy with the gentleman now. items.
bureau, without impairing the efficiency of this Mr. CHANLER. I do not want any controIn respect to the appropriation that is called service?
versy. I want an answer to the question. for in connection with the quartermaster's de- Mr. ELIOT. It cannot be done. This esti- Mr. ELIOT. Ifthe gentleman has got through partment, I would state that except the clothes mate of $3,000,000 was founded upon a certain || I will try to answer him. I have not said that which properly belong to women and children, amount for each school and for a certain num- the white children of the South were educated all the clothing has been obtained from the ber of schools, so much for each school. - In with the black children. I have said no such quartermaster's department at the values of the some portions of the South the price of land | thing. Nor have I stated anything from which articles. They have been charged, so far as and building is larger than in other portions. || such an inference could be drawn. What I they have been heretofore obtained, to the The estimate, so far as it could be, has been said was simply this: that in conducting the bureau. The estimate is made here showing | accurately made at the Department. Striking affairs of the bureau, education has been given the amount which will be wanted during the down the appropriation $1,000,000 it will dis- to the children of refugees as well as to the coming year, not to go into the market and able the bureau from accommodating as many children of freedmen. And this: that where purchase clothing, but to go to the quartermaster as if it had $3,000,000.
a school-house which has been used, or another with requisitions, so that clothing which would Let me say there are a great many scholars, || building which has been used for the education, othervise be sold for half price-for there is a children of white people, who are instructed as under the administration of the bureau, of freedvery large amount on hand-will be sold to the well as the children of freedmen.
men's children and of white children, shall have Freedmen's Bureau at full price. It is not Mr. ELDRIDGE. On what report is the been taken from the bureau, that school would taking money from the Treasury at all; it is estimate made?
be broken up unless the Governmentinterposed. simply to enable the Freedmen's Bureau to Mr. ELIOT. On the report submitted by || That is all I designed to say. purchase from the quartermaster's department || the Commissioner of the Freedmen's Bureau ; Mr. CHANLER. Then I suppose I misunclothing which that department has now on and on a report in reply to the Committee on derstood the gentleman. hand. That does not, of course, include the Appropriations.
Mr. ELDRIDGE. I certainly understood clothing for women and dependent children. My friend from Pennsylvania [Mr. Ste- the gentleman to say that the white and black
Mr. ELDRIDGE. I desire to inquire in VENS] has either here on his desk or at his children were educated together, reference to the first section of the bill. I room a communication from the Commissioner Mr. ELIOT. Well, I hope I have put it right notice that it provides these sums shall be ap- stating in detail the items which he wants, and I did not mean any such thing as ihat. propriated out of any money in the Treasury || the reason why they are needed.
Mr. ELDRIDGE. That is not the fact, then ? not otherwise appropriated, for the support of Mr. ELDRIDGĚ. But I wish to know if Mr. ELIOT. I do not know anything about the Bureau of Refugees, Freedmen, and Aban- the committee have made any report upon it. I suppose all shades of color are to be found doned Lands, for the fiscal year commencing which we can act intelligibly upon this or any | there, and it would be hard to distinguish some January, 1866. I want to know what the other item in this bill.
of them from white. support of abandoned lands means.
Mr. ELIOT. A report has been made from Mr. ELDRIDGE. If that is the case, then Mr. ELIOT. That is simply the title of the the Bureau of Refugees and Freedmen; the the gentleman referred to these mixed races bureau. The law creates a bureau of Refu- | gentleman will find it among his documents. only. gees, Freedmen, and Abandoned Lands.
Mr. ELDRIDGE. What I ask is whether Mr. ELIOT. The gentleman must inquire Mr. ELDRIDGE. First the bureau is pro- the committee have made any report.
of his Democratic friends; they know much vided, and then we have freedmen, and next Mr. ELIOT. What committee?
inore about that than we do. [Langhter.] abandoned lands.
Mr. ELDRIDGE. The committee report
Mr. ELDRIDGE. I do not think they underMr. ELIOT. It is the name of the bureau, || ing this bill.
stand the Freedmen's Bureau better than the and that is all. In regard to the transportation Mr. ELIOT. No, sir.
gentleman does. He has been the father of I will say a word.
Mr. GRINNELL. I will state that we con- that measure, if not of any of these colored Mr. ELDRIDGE. Allow me to ask another ll«sidered this item for school-houses and asylums ll children. [Laughter.]